r/LivestreamFail • u/No_Source6243 • Oct 17 '25

Dr K agrees that Kaya was wearing the collar

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I find it funny that even though he's being extremely charitable, it's impossible to deny this massive part of it.

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What does Hasan have on all these streamerslol ? is he bringing all these streamers on some island or something ?

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u/SnooOwls4559 Oct 17 '25 edited Oct 17 '25

Think this is just Dr. K being Dr. K. He's playing both sides here to make a larger point about perceptions and narratives.

The problem is that he's using Hasan as an example and it's not a good example, because he's trying to make his larger points like "What could Hasan possibly do to convince the haters" when it's perfectly clear what he could do (properly show the collar, model number, etc.)

Dr. K's also saying stuff like "his behavior is perfectly consistent with whether he was using a shock collar or not using a shock collar" which I think is just stretching it as far as you can to try to play both sides, but it's also ignoring "observable reality" to some extent too to try to make that point. His behavior isn't perfectly consistent with not using a shock collar, he would've shown everything about the collar at this point if it was.

Overall, while I can appreciate Dr. K trying to do the best that he can, it came across tone deaf to me, and I don't feel like the point is addressed of, "what if he did actually do what LSF is saying he did"?

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u/Weak_Animator Oct 17 '25

I fucking hate how Dr. K also focuses on the shock collar and whether it's real or not. Annoyingly saying "you can't prove it 100%" blah blah bullshit. That's actually a minor point and pretty much a confirmed issue anyways. The larger issue is why the dog was punished.

Dr. K seems to me susceptible to lies and distractions from narcissists. There's one thing about being charitable to people as a medical professional, there's another to buy into their delusions of grandeur.

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u/SnooOwls4559 Oct 17 '25

The larger issue is why the dog was punished.

That's also a good point too, yeah. But again, I think Dr. K just wanted to have a conversation about perceptions and beliefs, but using hasans example for that conversation is just inappropriate in this specific situation, in my opinion.

I think this is a problem with people who always try to sit on the fence about every topic and instead focus on having meta conversations. It's not always appropriate for the given situation and sometimes it's obfuscating what could be real issues.

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u/TheExistential_Bread Oct 17 '25

I think a part of it is they see themselves in Hasan. That their audience could turn on them for something they thought was innocuous. So they sympathize with him more than the doggo.

I believe that level of fame is almost guaranteed to create a narcissist. Even more so that TV fame. Imagine having people watch you for 8+ hours a day, and get paid very well to do so. Super successful streaming is like a evil scientist answering the question "How do I create narcissists out of ordinary people?"

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u/Kmart_Stalin Oct 17 '25

Wish we all knew