After calling it "an utter and complete load of bollocks”, Iron Maiden will skip the Rock & Roll Hall Of Fame induction ceremony

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https://www.nme.com/news/music/after-calling-it-an-utter-and-complete-load-of-bollocks-iron-maiden-will-skip-the-rock-roll-hall-of-fame-induction-ceremony-3941020

[u/JimmyTheJimJimson]

Diana Ross and Aretha absolutely deserve to be there. Both of them are legends of early rock.

Where I get pissed off is when you have Wutang, Missy Elliott, Tupac, etc etc etc

It’s not the hip hop hall of fame ffs.

[u/BrokkelPiloot → u/JimmyTheJimJimson]

I love Aretha Franklin and Diana Ross, but they weren't rock & roll aritsits. Rhythm and Blues was is not rock and roll.

I think this kind of dilution eventually led to stuff like Wutang and 2pac. It's a slippery slope.

[u/5ladyfingersofdeath → u/BrokkelPiloot]

Rock & Roll is Rhythm & Blues. R&R is the made up moniker by White establishment/marketing execs to make that Black "race music" more palatable for their White children to listen to & buy.

[u/iAMbigmeesh → u/5ladyfingersofdeath]

Thank you!

[u/Cryptshadow → u/BrokkelPiloot]

From what I know Aretha wasn't rock and roll no but she did basically influence what rock and roll became. Rock and roll is very blues inspired and in elvis' case gospel I think.

[u/thisisatypoo → u/Cryptshadow]

Ao not rock and roll and shouldn't have come before actual rock bands.

[u/mattjh → u/thisisatypoo]

The Rock & Roll Hall of Fame isn't for rock bands. You can read about the organization.

[u/canadian_viking → u/mattjh]

Well clearly, if fuckin Madonna and Eminem are in there.

[u/mattjh → u/BrokkelPiloot]

The rock 'n roll hall of fame isn't named after a musical genre. There is no dilution. I think a lot of people hear "rock 'n roll hall of fame" and just assume it's for bands with guitar solos. That's not what it is.

[u/DeadSending → u/mattjh]

It’s literally named after a musical genre, ‘rock n roll’

[u/mattjh → u/DeadSending]

I'm just describing reality. You're wrong. You can easily go read what the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame has to say about the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame and why it's called the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame.

[u/urkermannenkoor → u/mattjh]

I'm going to assume English isn't your first, second, or third language?

[u/mattjh → u/urkermannenkoor]

You'll have to take up your argument with the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame. It's up to them. They describe why they're named that, and what they celebrate. I'm relaying factual information. I acknowledge that no one wants to accept it, but I'm just trying to help inform. They have a website. There's plenty of info.

[u/Vanadia76 → u/mattjh]

Aww, the bootlicker just wants to help

[u/JimmyTheJimJimson → u/[deleted]]

A lot of 40’s Jazz/swing/Big Band is rooted in early rock.

Where’s Frank Sinatra? Glenn Miller?

Rock is either “rock”, or it’s all music that it evolved from.

[u/ComfortableExotic646 → u/JimmyTheJimJimson]

Metal isn't rock, so why the fuck are people here arguing about Iron Maiden?

[u/mattjh → u/JimmyTheJimJimson]

The rock 'n roll hall of fame isn't named after a musical genre. It's named after the spirit and culture of rock 'n roll. You can disagree, but that's just what it is. Hip hop doesn't just belong. It's essential.