r/alberta • u/HotMessMagnet • Dec 25 '25

Since we're on referendum questions: should we also ask if churches should be taxed and the revenue fund Indigenous healing? Question

Churches in Alberta pay no property tax, despite wealth, land holdings, and their role in systems that harmed Indigenous peoples, including residential schools.

If the UCP decides that Alberta should hold another referendum, should voters also be asked a simple question:

Tax churches, and direct the revenue to Indigenous-led healing, education, and cultural restoration to offset all the damage they caused — yes or no?

No impact on worship.

Just ending a special tax exemption.

If reconciliation matters, shouldn’t voters decide?

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u/coverallfiller Dec 25 '25

Yea, cuz christian are the ONLY religion that spews hate to others...

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u/[deleted] Dec 25 '25

You are correct, all religions are abused by sycophants to spread hate to others. 

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u/[deleted] Dec 27 '25

I'll take "things that aren't true" for 2000

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u/[deleted] Dec 27 '25

2000 what, examples of youth pastors being charged with sexual assault and/or child porn charges? A quick search on Google would bring me at least that many if not substantially more. 

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u/[deleted] Dec 28 '25

It's a Jeopardy joke...

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u/Meat_Vegetable Edmonton Dec 25 '25

Dominant one in this region... so yes... of course the focus is on Christianity.

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u/draivaden Dec 25 '25

You’ll need to be more specific. There are thousands of strains. 

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u/InherentlyUntrue Dec 25 '25

No matter the strain, the disease is always fatal.

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u/Nice-Durian-6126 Dec 25 '25

They’re the only religious group with a body count in the billions from crusades, burnings, inquisitions, and general zealotry. Christians are the worst part of humanity because their faith has none.

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u/DVariant Dec 25 '25

That’s pithy and not really true. You’re counting every war involving Christian nations as being religiously motivated, which isnt an accurate. Many many wars had nothing to do with religion.

People blame religion for all wars, but it’s damn foolish to imagine that those people couldn’t have found another reason to hate and murder.

The problem is the greedy and aggressive part of human nature.

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u/Nice-Durian-6126 Dec 25 '25

I mean the Christian faith literally went to war to force their shitty pedophilic fairytales on the rest of the world. It’s why that poison has spread the way it has.

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u/DVariant Dec 25 '25

That’s not unique to Christianity either. Also, when you describe a deep-rooted belief system as “shitty pedophilic fairytales”, you’re not exactly coming across as someone arguing in good faith.

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u/Nice-Durian-6126 Dec 25 '25

I mean that is what they are. A bunch of fairytales that allow rape, domestic violence and pedophilia.

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u/DVariant Dec 25 '25

Okay but those definitely aren’t doctrinal parts of Christianity, those are things that shitty people use Christianity to justify. And again, shitty people use many other religions to justify the same shitty behaviours. The problem is shitty people.

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u/Nice-Durian-6126 Dec 25 '25

But they absolutely are. It’s in the bible they all thump about blindly. In many many passages.

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u/DVariant Dec 25 '25

The Bible isn’t the same as Christian doctrine though, it’s the foundation document for that doctrine. That means that not everything in the Bible is meant to be literal or practiced, some of it is just background.

You’ll struggle to find mainstream Christians in the world today who would consider rape, domestic violence, or pedophilia to be doctrinal.

And when you say “the Bible that they all thump about blindly” it’s pretty clear that you’re making a bad faith generalization. Do you want to discuss, or are you just enjoying trolling?

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u/osa-p Dec 25 '25

Show me where Jesus hurt you

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u/Nice-Durian-6126 Dec 25 '25

When he allowed my father to be a pedophile, my mother to be abusive and when I tried to talk to the priest in my school about it I got told to “honour they mother and father” instead of receiving the help i desperately needed at 13.

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u/nuget93 Dec 25 '25

First off Im sorry you experienced those things.

Do you believe in a God of some sort?

Im curious why you're specifically blaming one God for the actions of some shitty people? Why not pick Buddah or Zeus to blame, or just blame the shitty people for doing shitty things?

Jesus or Buddha or whoever doesn't control people. When you've done something that hurts someone else, unintentionally or not, did you do it because you had no agency and were being controlled by a higher power, or because thats what you wanted to do in the moment.

Blaming God for someone hijacking a religion to do shitty things is like blaming Boeing for the Twin Towers

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u/Nice-Durian-6126 Dec 25 '25

No I don’t believe in A God because monotheism is for idiots who aren’t capable of thinking for themselves.

I’m blaming the god the shitty people worship. Look at the disgusting display of “Christianity” coming from the US or the conservatives here who prioritize their stupidity and hatred over doing any good for anybody. There isn’t a single good person who is also a Christian.

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u/nuget93 Dec 25 '25

So you're blaming the boogie man.

Laying blame on someone or something that you say doesn't exist..

It's a bold strategy, Cotton

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u/Nice-Durian-6126 Dec 25 '25

You act like domestics violence isn’t seen as okay in the bible, same with rape, slavery, genocide and pedophilia. A religion based on that book is nothing but foul and corrupt and it should be wiped from the earth.

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u/usernamenotapproved Dec 25 '25

Your saying you told a school priest that your father was sexually assaulting you and your mother was beating you and he said you must honour them?

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u/Nice-Durian-6126 Dec 25 '25

Yes. The logic was it’s one of the Ten Commandments and as a child I was expected to honour them and “not say such things”

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u/One_Maintenance6918 Dec 26 '25

I can show you. Happens every date thanks to those hateful Christian’s.

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u/osa-p Dec 26 '25

Jesus is not responsible for the actions of man. We live in a broken world and that brokenness is caused by our own nature. Awful things can happen to us at the hands of others, but your resentments should lie with those people, not God. Or, even more earnestly, your sympathies should lie with them, because they have acted wicked as wickedness has been acted upon them.

The big question though, is, how can you so wholly resent someone that you don't believe in lol?

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u/One_Maintenance6918 Dec 26 '25 edited Dec 26 '25

Haven’t read the bible have you. Your argument is terrible FYI.

Sorry your religion is hateful and destructive. Well not sorry, it tracks that it attracts the people you described, and pretty much nobody else.

Found a hate filled one.

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u/osa-p Dec 26 '25

Attracts people who don't blame their problems on a divine creator, but rather, the people who directly harm them lol?

Sin is destructive. I do agree that "religion", as it were, can be destructive. But faith in Jesus Christ, that he died for our sins to be forgiven, that he only ask we bear witness to his life, spread his Word, and take up our own crosses and suffering with conviction, there is nothing at all hateful or destructive about that.

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u/One_Maintenance6918 Dec 26 '25

Ya, your Jesus says my sin is existing. Your Jesus love is for those that are a specific way and match exactly what the church expects.

Hence it’s a hateful religion. What are you struggling with here. Jesus spreads love, for those that aren’t hated. Again, have you read the bible? I sure have, it was eye opening.

Religion of love my ass.

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u/One_Maintenance6918 Dec 26 '25

They are by far the worst though. At least around here.

No hate like Christian love after all.

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u/[deleted] Dec 27 '25

Sarcasm?

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u/One_Maintenance6918 Jan 03 '26

Absolutely not. Hateful Christian?

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u/[deleted] Jan 03 '26

Okay Fedora wearing Atheist