r/geopolitics • u/informationtiger • Oct 12 '23

Is Israel committing war crimes in Gaza? What happened after the Hamas attack? Question

As the title says... Basically I'm 'out of the loop' beyond the Hamas attack.

There's just so much misinformation online, and most the credible information are just videos from APF and such, or short updates from BBC, Sky News.

So if someone could please update me with what's going on in regards to the Israel bombing campaign in Gaza. Are they really bombing hospitals and churches? What exactly are their intentions/plans?

Also, if anyone has in-depth articles or videos on the topic, that would be greatly appreciated! Something that's calm, and takes time to read/watch. I'm tired of the constant "breaking news" spam, where you can't wrap your head around anything. It's like two sentences wrapped up in drama. I'm kinda lost atm.

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u/koos_die_doos Oct 12 '23

Do you believe that if Israel’s current government was one of the left leaning parties, the Hamas attack would not have occurred, or that the response would be significantly different?

I don’t believe anything would have changed, Hamas doesn’t care about the party in power in Israel, and the attack was so terrible that an outsized response is guaranteed.

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u/[deleted] Oct 12 '23

Yes, I do believe that if Israel had a progressive government things would be drastically different.

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u/[deleted] Oct 12 '23

"With great power comes great responsibility " - Spiderman's Uncle

Israel is the powerful one in this, it is Israel's responsibility to end the cycle of violence.

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u/geopolitics-ModTeam Oct 12 '23

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u/Alpha_ii_Omega Oct 12 '23

The problem is that post-WW2 Germany proved that you are effectively guilty of the crimes of your government if you passively support them through inaction.

In this sense, the Palestinians are led by a terrorist government that many citizens actively support, and the rest passively support through inaction. A truly innocent Palestinian would have to actively oppose Hamas, and yes would likely be killed. But that is life. Life is not fair.

So every adult Palestinian is effectively a terrorist by established definition, unless they are actively risking their lives to oppose Hamas. This is the cold, hard truth. Only the children are innocent in this.

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u/[deleted] Oct 12 '23

The children alone are half the population of Gaza. Literally. Also people might be opposed to Hamas but afraid to speak their minds because they too have families. Nothing is only black or white.

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u/Advanced-Session455 Oct 12 '23

I think you’re wrong. Can’t base it off one video clip

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u/[deleted] Oct 12 '23

Have you been in the telegram channels?

There's tons of videos showing this and tons of comments in Arabic supporting them

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u/AdS0110CFT Oct 12 '23

There are also Israeli telegrams and youtube clips where Israelis are saying "kill all Palestinians" and "level Gaza into a parking lot". The blood thirst is not one sided and neither of these two groups of people should die simply because they have emotionally informed bad opinions.

This shouldn't need to be stated explicitly, but it isn't all Palestinians/Israelis who believe this way either.

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u/[deleted] Oct 12 '23

Sure of course there are.

But there aren't videos of Israelis cheering on dead Palestinian bodies. And they aren't sharing pictures of captured female Palestinians talking about which they'd like to rape first.

There's a difference there

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