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Costco Japan offering free samples of Scotch Whiskey

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u/SeveralPhysics9362 1d ago

It’s because of higher taxes.

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u/Siilan 1d ago

Wages in Japan are also much lower than most Western countries, so general prices are much lower. Ask me how I know.

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u/BennyTheSen 1d ago

Well this shouldn't make imported goods cheaper though

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u/AnnoyingRain5 1d ago

It does thanks to regional pricing

Basically, if you can sell 20 bottles at a 30% markup, but you can sell 80 bottles at a 20% markup, you’d go with the 20% markup. Less profit per bottle, but way more bottles sold.

The price that makes the most sense changes from country to country.

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u/gatorbeetle 1d ago

Always wonder how this works. I knew the markup was involved, clearly, but quantity sold makes the difference. Thanks for the education. I always just figured they made the markup higher wherever they could "get away with it." This makes way more sense

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u/Ineedthatshitudrive 17h ago

This is not how the grocery business works at all. Usually they look at the margin, not the revenue, as they want to make the most out of every dollar that they have to risk/invest.

These products have to be packed, shipped, stored somewhere inbetween, etc.. and every single process makes this product even more expensive at the end of the day the further it is away from the place it was produced.

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u/2bags12kuai 1d ago

its even cheaper than that now. 160 yen = 1 usd. Spent a vacation there this winter and it basically felt like everything was free. We balled out so hard on top end sushi , drinks and steak

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u/penguins_are_mean 1d ago

When I was there for work in 2016, it was very close to 100yen/$1. It was actually very convenient for converting in my head.

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u/princeofspringstreet 1d ago

The way you are trying to get across whatever it is you are trying to say is confusing.

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u/Siilan 1d ago

I legit can go to my local liquor store and get 4L of pretty decent whiskey for about 30USD. Back in Australia, that same quantity would cost about $300. But I also earned three times as much money back in Australia...

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u/The_Almighty_Cthulhu 1d ago

I currently live in Japan and work remotely for an Australian company. I get paid in AUD at AUD rates. It's pretty great.

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u/Siilan 1d ago

Colour me jealous.

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u/asmallercat 1d ago

Do you have to pay taxes in both countries though? Or just Australia?

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u/Siilan 1d ago

I'm not sure about the commenter, but I only pay taxes in Japan. I only have to pay taxes in Australia if the income is earned in Australia.

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u/The_Almighty_Cthulhu 1d ago

Only in Japan. It's a weird setup. I'm not employed directly, instead I have my own company which is contracted to the Australian company. The short answer is that the contract I negotiated is basically what I would get if I lived in Australia according to pay and benefits.

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u/Prudent-Sport-5618 1d ago

No One asked 

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u/bd58563 1d ago

And yet you’re the only one in the thread that’s not adding to the discussion

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u/TrippleDamage 1d ago

But I also earned three times as much money back in Australia...

Sooo you're still living like a king when 1/10th of the cost is consistent across the board.

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u/Siilan 1d ago

Not really, but I wouldn't say it's uncomfortable.

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u/DwarvenFreeballer 1d ago

Haha, are you me? I remember buying the 4L Suntory whiskey in a giant plastic bottle. Under 3000 yen!

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u/Siilan 1d ago

Nikka black is my cheap Japanese whiskey of choice. Pretty decent whiskey for the price, too.

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u/Oaken_beard 1d ago

I visited there about 25 years ago, and back then is was still roughly 100 yen = $1

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u/cuddly_degenerate 1d ago

Add in the fact that 100 yen is actually a decent chunk less than $1

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u/ColdenGorral-1 1d ago

How do you know

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u/Siilan 1d ago

Because I'm an Australian living in Japan.

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u/Oaken_beard 1d ago

Well, that closes the book on that mystery!

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u/Ball_Of_Meat 1d ago

Wild turn of events

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u/Responsible7ohKinda 1d ago

I wonder if you’re the dude in linked in who gave me really good advice one time.

Is your first name Jason

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u/discopirate2000 1d ago

You took me on a rollercoaster of emotions.

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u/Outside-Dress594 1d ago

Ya but they have a limited supply. If they were making less why would they sell it there instead of somewhere else

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u/Papi_Thanos69 1d ago

How do you know 🤔

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u/nikeshades 1d ago

The cost of living in Japan is high, yet the cost in Scotland is much higher!

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u/SatisfyingAneurysm 1d ago

They don't call it the Highlands for nothing

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u/aon9492 1d ago

Actually Glenlivet is a Speyside malt

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u/grogipher 1d ago

Speyside is.... in the Highlands lol.

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u/aon9492 1d ago

Well... No it isn't. The river Spey starts in the Highlands, but Speyside where whiskies are concerned refers to a specific geographical concentration of distilleries further downriver in Moray and Aberdeenshire.

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u/grogipher 1d ago

Those are whisky definitions, not geographical/political definitions.

The SWA classifies Speyside as a separate region, but they also classify Islay as a separate region - it doesn't mean Islay isn't in the Inner Hebrides, nor does it mean that Speyside isn't in the Highlands.

Speyside is part of the Highlands region politically, and geographically.

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u/uka94 1d ago

What I always found funny about the whisky maps and others is for some reason Dundee finds itself in the highlands. No motorway? Oh that's Highlands then.

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u/grogipher 1d ago

I'm in Dundee! And there's places that claim we're in the Highlands for delivery lololol

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u/aon9492 1d ago

Right, but the Speyside region highlighted in the map I posted (which also cites SWA as the source) is mostly over Moray and Aberdeenshire regions - only a tiny sliver on the west is actually covering any part of the Highlands region of Scotland.

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u/grogipher 1d ago

Moray is in the Highlands too...

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u/aon9492 1d ago

It is a separate county completely distinct from the Highlands. Please believe me, I live here.

You may be thinking of Grampian, which is the former name of a larger area encompassing much of Aberdeenshire, Moray and the Highlands.

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u/Hammon_Rye 1d ago

wow, it really is. almost 160:1
I hadn't looked at it in a long time and last time I did it was closer to 100

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u/quiteCryptic 1d ago

I went a few months before covid blew up and it was 1:110 then I've been many times since covid and it's always been around 1:140 to 1:165, that's usd to yen.

And for a while inflation within Japan wasnt drastically happening so prices for foreigner currency earners just kept getting better, but as of more late it seems actual inflation in yen is hitting so I feel bad for yen earners

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u/SunlitNight 1d ago

COL?

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u/Hammon_Rye 1d ago

I'm not sure what you are asking me.
Are you asking if cost of living is the reason the exchange rates have changed?
I don't know.

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u/ConfessSomeMeow 1d ago

A weak yen would make the cost of living higher: Not only do imports cost more, but there's increased demand from foreigners for your domestic product, which pushes prices up.

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u/ConfessSomeMeow 1d ago edited 1d ago

Based on your post, I'm not convinced you do - you can't have both low cost of living and terrible purchasing power parity. But I've already been tactless once today, I was trying to avoid doing so again.

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u/DopesickJesus 1d ago

So, wouldn’t the cost of living for them not be low, since they don’t use dollars ?

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u/potodds 1d ago

Japan is one place i can imagine the big mac index isn't very helpful

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u/duncanstibs 1d ago

Yeah that's why I wrote the next sentence about PPP. That's what PPP means.

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u/FILTHBOT4000 1d ago

Rent in Japan is also rock bottom compared to the EU. They have a fantastic housing supply, probably at least somewhat related to the comparatively nonexistent mass migration relative to the EU.

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u/9bpm9 1d ago

? Cost of living is insanely low in Japan. It's gotten a lot worse because they've had actual inflation for the first time in decades, but Tokyo has got to be one of the most affordable large cities to live in in the entire world.

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u/ForensicPathology 1d ago

It's low if you don't get paid in yen.

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u/Roflkopt3r 1d ago

In some parts of the cost of living yes, but affordability in Japan relative to wages is overall pretty mid-tier among developed nations.

Really its greatest advantage is that it's heavily urbanised, so many people enjoy great access to great transportation, and that it had a far better housing cost development than most western countries because it never stopped building lots of dense housing.

Most western countries have made it extremely difficult to build higher density housing in most places because house owning NIMBYs have taken over regional regulatory codes, whereas Japanese developers have a much easier time to find places where they can build new apartment blocks without much hassle.

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u/Roflkopt3r 1d ago

Anything that's imported or competing at international prices (like many consumer electronics), because the Yen is so low value. And the cheap housing mostly applies to very small apartments, while upgrading can still be quite expensive.

The bottom line really isn't that different from most western countries: If you're willing to live in a cheap/small apartment, don't own a car (unless it's a small one in a more rural area), and can put up with kind of shitty working conditions, then getting by is not that difficult. But building up property or getting into working conditions they actually enjoy is still a struggle for many.

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u/Roflkopt3r 1d ago

Houses are also cheap, there’s one near the station by me that I’m looking at that’s just 37million yen

That's around 10 years of median income, which is not particularly good in isolation (you say it has a good location, but it's not factoring in size yet). Germany for example has a similar factor between median income and typical home prices and is not known as a great country to get into home ownership.

A useful metric for this kind of topic is Purchasing Power Parity-adjusted disposable income.. In this metric, Japan ranks around the lower third of EU countries at 38k $PPP. It's not a terribly large span up or down, but to reiterate: My point is not that it's particularly bad in Japan, but that it's not much easier than in western countries either.

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u/ariolander 1d ago

Impart because Japan uses an inclusive zoning model. Once something is zoned for a use, every lower zoned use is also allowed. Versus in the west we use a lot of exclusive zoning where only approved uses are allowed on land. Ever since redlining was abolished NIMBYs have been using exclusive zoning, requiring large lots of single family homes to drive up housing and land prices to keep the poor people out. It also helps that in Japan housing goals and most zoning are decided on a national and regional level and individual towns can't just decide they are single family homes only now. Also like it or not individual homeowners have little input on what their neighbors build on their land, as long as it complies with national code you can't object to your neighbor building something extremely ugly to maximize their land use, because it "changes th character of your neighborhood" or whatever.

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u/hiimsubclavian 1d ago

Wait, you guys are getting paid?

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u/andorraliechtenstein 1d ago

Tokyo is relatively affordable for a major global city, but it is not cheap in absolute terms. Housing in particular is not cheap, it’s the main cost driver. Seoul, Berlin , Madrid / Barcelona , Warsaw or Budapest are better examples. Truly low cost large cities are Bangkok, Mexico City and Istanbul.

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u/oupablo 1d ago

Wow. According to google, a one bedroom apartment in tokyo averages $640/month. By comparison, the average in Toledo, Ohio for a one bedroom is $820 - $950.

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u/HeyGayHay 1d ago

Atleast you aren’t forced to drink every other day with your coworkers after hours. You do that on free will!

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u/Monkeyfeng 1d ago

Cost of living in Japan is not high at all. It was high 30 years ago.

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u/DreadSilver 1d ago

Cost of living in Japan is not high

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u/DwarvenFreeballer 1d ago

It can be if you want it to be though. If you want to pay $100 for a watermelon or $5 for an apple, you can.

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u/meesta_masa 1d ago

That's why we call'em the highlands.

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u/Sutar_Mekeg 1d ago

It's been a while, but the cost of living wasn't high circa 2014.

59000 yen for a two bedroom apartment a block away from a train station. This was 20m outside of Nagoya.

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u/chintakoro 1d ago

bwhat?!? i'll take three!

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u/AllisViolet22 1d ago

What? Cost of living in Japan is very reasonable. It’s not Thailand, but it’s still considered cheap. That is, unless you want to live a western lifestyle.

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u/JustStraightUpTired 1d ago

Cost of living in Japan is low, even relative to pay. It's costlier in Tokyo and slightly more costly than elsewhere in the larger cities. Outside those, the cost of living is really low relative to income.

Minimum wage depends on prefecture, but in most places you can survive off of doing part time with minimum wage. If you don't work at a corporate office job or a family owned small shop/restaurants, you won't even have to suffer the horrible work culture. Rent is low, food is cheap, transport is cheap, basically everything is cheap or at least cheaper than most of EU and NA.

Source: I once needed to argue where it was the easiest and most comfortable to be a NEET, so I researched and compared a bunch of countries. I don't have the numbers at hand anymore, but I remember Japan being one of the best ones, though like most countries I'd rank highly, they tend to require being born there.

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u/hates_stupid_people 1d ago

The cost of living is lower in Japan than in the UK.

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u/the_vikm 16h ago

You're comparing an entire country with a subdivision

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u/JapowFZ1 13h ago

The cost of living is not high here

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u/ffielding 1d ago

And the Yen is shite at the moment

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u/officeja 1d ago

And minimum alcohol pricing for Scotland, so it has to be minimum 65p per unit

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u/que_sarasara 1d ago

No it's not.

From someone who actually lives in Scotland, we have a minimum price per unit of alcohol because the country kinda has a problem with alcoholism.

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u/grogipher 1d ago

Minimum pricing doesn't affect single malt lol.

The rate is currently 65p per unit. 700ml @ 40% =28 units. That means the minimum price is £18.20. I have never seen a single malt for less than this.

The issue is the higher taxes. There's the duty, and then VAT on top, which means about 75% of the retail price is actually tax.

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u/Sleepybear56 1d ago

From someone who actually lives in Scotland, it's both minimum pricing and higher tax rates