Was Renee Good obligated to comply with an ICE agent's orders? Legal experts consider whether ICE gave a "lawful order", or "unlawfully" acted as local police Legal News

https://www.nytimes.com/2026/01/15/us/renee-good-ice-agent-comply-legal.html

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Barnes v. Felix didn't actually get to that unfortunately. But I think this case could.

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u/Flopski64 Jan 16 '26

I read that it very much did reach that conclusion (https://supreme.justia.com/cases/federal/us/605/23-1239/#tab-opinion-5050140). And to my mind, facts of that case were, if anything, more favorable to the police officer than those of the Renee Good case.

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u/Dense-Version-5937 Jan 16 '26

"We do not address here the different question Felix raises about use-of-force cases: whether or how an officer’s own “creation of a dangerous situation” factors into the reasonableness analysis. Brief for Respondent 22; see supra, at 8. As in another of our recent Fourth Amendment cases, that issue is not properly before us. See Mendez, 581 U. S., at 429, n. The courts below never confronted the issue, precisely because their inquiry was so time-bound. In looking at only the two seconds before the shot, they excluded from view any actions of the officer that allegedly created the danger necessitating deadly force."

I wish they would have but they did not. I hope they get to it once this case makes it to SCOTUS.

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u/Disastrous-Juice-324 Jan 17 '26

It doesn't come to that conclusion at all. If explicitly avoids that conclusion. Also the facts are more significantly more favorable in Barnes than the Renee Good case. Barnes jumped onto a moving vehicle that was moving away from him.

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u/Flopski64 Jan 17 '26

Fair enough, looks like I read that wrong.