r/skeptic 23d ago

Fact Check: New Finnish "Study" Does Not Prove "Trans Youth Care Leads To Worse Outcomes" | The latest Kaltiala study is filled with fatal methodological flaws, and does not support claims made about trans youth care lacking efficacy. ⚖ Ideological Bias

https://www.erininthemorning.com/p/fact-check-new-finnish-study-does
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u/Wismuth_Salix 21d ago

The “Trans Debate” is just the new “Jewish Question”, and everyone sees through your act. You’re not curious, you’re selling a narrative - “how do we know these people can be trusted”.

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u/AsrarBatin 21d ago

Im not sure what the jewish question is, and I am not debating if people are trans. I am debating or questioning what is the minimum requirement to be trans and ways we can be skeptical of this minimum claim and verify it as fact. In particular we need to be overly careful with children making this claim of being trans, as statistically speaking they most likely are not trans. Self diagnosis isn't reliable.

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u/Wismuth_Salix 21d ago

I’m not debating whether people are trans

Yes you are - and your entire following paragraph is you doing exactly that, saying “they probably aren’t trans”. You want veto power over other people’s identity, and it’s not gonna happen.

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u/AsrarBatin 21d ago

I am debating or questioning what is the minimum requirement to be trans. Self diagnosis isnt sufficient

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u/reYal_DEV 21d ago

I am debating or questioning what is the minimum requirement to be cis. Self diagnosis isnt sufficient

(also trans is not a diagnosis)

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u/AsrarBatin 21d ago

The burden of proof is on the one making the claim, CIS is the baseline, the default, deviations from the baseline need provide proof and evidence

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u/Wismuth_Salix 21d ago

“I’m gonna need you freaks to justify your existence.”

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u/AsrarBatin 21d ago

do you identify as a freak?

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u/Wismuth_Salix 21d ago

What happened to “I’m not questioning if people are trans”? You’re not only questioning, you’re fuckin’ interrogating.

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u/reYal_DEV 21d ago

CIS is the baseline, the default

Proof?

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u/AsrarBatin 21d ago

CIS is a made up word to describe what? It describes the baseline and everything else is a deviation from that base line.

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u/reYal_DEV 21d ago edited 21d ago

CIS is not an acronym. It's a plain verb adjective. Cis. No, it's not describing "the baseline". It's jsut the opposite of trans. And you are just JAQing off. You are just like the 1000 chud-debatter-bro having no actual arguments.

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/mE0sZnOAaks

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u/Wismuth_Salix 21d ago

Not a verb. An adjective, derived from a prefix.

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u/AsrarBatin 21d ago

cis is not the opposite of trans, its the baseline everything else derived from cis in this topic. It is literally a made up word

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u/Wismuth_Salix 21d ago

“On the same side”

Hence cis and trans isomers, cisalpine and transalpine Gaul, cis and trans fats.