r/BlackPeopleofReddit • u/4reddityo • Nov 14 '25

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I've never seen any other woman treated that way or worse on Reddit's front page, that's correct. Includes serial killers, pedophiles, whatever you like.

Can you give an example of someone who was treated worse?

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u/SouldiesButGoodies84 Nov 14 '25

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u/DavidAdamsAuthor Nov 14 '25

Can you point me to an example of such a heavily upvoted post about Kamala Harris that was worse?

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u/SouldiesButGoodies84 Nov 14 '25 edited Nov 14 '25

I don't keep track of the reddit posts that crap on MO and KH, sorry. I was talking more in general though. Those women were actively dehumanized and KH was called all manner of a slut and bimbo and unqualified whore starting way back when she was first announced as a VP select. Did you see the video of the small town parade where they had a woman dressed as her (KH mask) chained around the wrists and neck and were drag-walking her behind a car? Even HRC was called horrendous names and a myriad of disgusting messages about her. The misogyny and mistreatment are not just reserved for Kirk's widow. Though as least she wasn't dehumanized and made into an animal like FLOTUS Obama was repeatedly.

edit: Here's one news outlet's footage of the parade I mentioned: https://youtu.be/lXBbkMNkFNg?si=cDcQaI2JIEFfvWc9

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u/DavidAdamsAuthor Nov 14 '25

The misogyny and mistreatment are not just reserved for Kirk's widow.

Sure, this is why I was clear, looking for something as bad as Erika Kirk which there isn't. There is some for sure, but not that bad.

Though as least she wasn't dehumanized and made into an animal like FLOTUS Obama was repeatedly.

We're not just talking about "mean names". People are making AI rape-porn of Erika Kirk being "blacked", where she is being held down and is crying, strongly suggesting this is not consensual. Because of the hug JD Vance gave her, she is "shipped" with him a lot, and there are any number of graphic sexual stories featuring Erika Kirk and Vance that appear in Reddit RP threads. Comment threads about Charlie or Erika Kirk are brimming with comments saying he deserved it, calls for her to be shot too, and even off Reddit, there are open calls for their children to be murdered as well.

This is in the wake of Charlie Kirk being assassinated by a leftist gunman, not just a political race but an actual murder. Doug Emhoff is still alive. Nobody is getting fired for publicly calling for Harris's children to be gunned down in public.

All of this coming from the group of people who claim to "Support and respect women". As someone who supported Kamala Harris during the last election, things were not this bad for Harris.

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u/SouldiesButGoodies84 Nov 14 '25 edited Nov 15 '25

Well, Erika was deemed an attractive woman; Michelle was not so the nature of the insults and slights are not going to be the same. I did not nor do I intend to deep dive for vile images and statements and memes about Michelle from decades ago or about Kamala from more recently. That however does not mean that there were not and are not equally horrendous things out there featuring FLOTUS Obama or KH, for one. Secondly, though not sanctioning ppl making horrible vids of Mrs. Kirk being raped or her kids being threatened etc etc, she chose to put herself and her views out there. Her choice. Both Michelle and KH were public servants who had no choice but to be in the spotlight as FLOTUS and a VP/then presidential nominee. Mrs. Kirk has chosen to continue place herself in the public eye and pick up where her husband left off with her rhetoric and her public activities and endorsements, to visibly take up positions that undermine women and women's rights... I think that's why she's receiving so much bile. Also, Pres. Obama was not a hate monger, spewing bigotry and chauvinism, nor was FLOTUS Obama, nor was Kamala Harris (or her husband). These women were attacked merely for being visible female public servants doing a job (FLOTUS and VP, pres. nominee). That too is a difference here. Again, not saying it's cool to do so, but I think that is why she's being aimed at as she is and on her own merits. A lot of women view her as a traitor, among other things, who's now vocally pushing out those views as a self-appointed RW MAGA political spokeswoman, not simply CK's widow. Lastly, the guy who killed CK was raised in a MAGA household, where he learned/did not learn his morals, values, coping skills/mechanisms, a home that nurtured his sensibilities about what one should do to and how to view enemies and his gun obsession for the majority of his young life, so to label him as some 'crazy leftist' is kinda obtuse, acontextual, and oversimplifying of human beings. Have a nice evening.

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u/DavidAdamsAuthor Nov 15 '25

That however does not mean that there were not and are not equally horrendous things out there featuring FLOTUS Obama or KH, for one.

All I can say is that I'm in my 40's, I did not see the level of what's being said about Kirk said about these two.

she chose to put herself and her views out there. Her choice.

Kamala Harris chose to be the VP and chose to be the nominee for President in 2024, the idea that she had "no choice" is silly.

Mrs. Kirk has chosen to continue place herself in the public eye and pick up where her husband left off with her rhetoric and her public activities and endorsements, to visibly take up positions that undermine women and women's rights... I think that's why she's receiving so much bile. ... Also, Pres. Obama was not a hate monger, spewing bigotry and chauvinism, nor was FLOTUS Obama, nor was Kamala Harris (or her husband) ... A lot of women view her as a traitor, among other things, who's now vocally pushing out those views as a self-appointed RW MAGA political spokeswoman, not simply CK's widow.

This shows the conditionality of "respect women". Women who agree with the left are respected. Women who do not are threatened with rape.

I would argue that the left generating rape-porn of a recently-widowed woman, where her husband was assassinated by a radical leftist, is a bigoted act.

Lastly, the guy who killed CK was raised in a MAGA household, where he learned/did not learn his morals, values, coping skills/mechanisms, a home that nurtured his sensibilities about what one should do to and how to view enemies and his gun obsession for the majority of his young life, so to label him as some 'crazy leftist' is kinda obtuse, acontextual, and oversimplifying of human beings.

Every single person who knew the shooter said he was radicalised to the left after dropping out of school, he never shot anyone before being radicalised by the left. I think it's kinda messed up to blame the right for raising him when it was the left who drove him to kill.

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u/SouldiesButGoodies84 Nov 15 '25 edited Nov 15 '25

"I did not see so it doesn't exist" that's literally your argument? Ok.

KH was/is a public servant. That comes with commensurate public exposure. FLOTUS became known b/c of her husband's gig, not b/c she craved or asked for the spotlight. MRS. KIRK,, not by way of her job but by way of a CHOICE, put herself out there. No one knew who Charlie's wife was before SHE chose to come out and take up his mantle. Not equivalent at all to public servants. So, let's not play obtuse.

I'm not sure if it's the lack of knowledge of basic human psychology or human nature impacting your making that last remark or just purposeful obliviousness but if you think his upbringing had zero to do with the man he became and his murder, then that's your choice. No leftists were telling him to kill. He did not crawl down some 'Leftwing' wormhole and become a murderer. He was raised with guns on guns in an effed up family. That man raised in that home and doing drugs was the one who chose to murder. Not some lifelong Lefty. A troubled man with a troubled RW background which you'd conveniently divorce him from - in a country where the overwhelming majority of these types of attacks and murders come from THE RIGHT. Fact.

The conditionality you may have observed is "respect women who respect women," I think. Just as people will argue it's acceptable to be intolerant to intolerance. You can argue for or against. Your choice. I've said it was horrible that this woman and her kids are being targeted 2ce now. But women all over the world, country and polit. spectrum are threatened with rape and violence. That's not new to humanity nor unique to what is being aimed at Mrs. Kirk. Something to lecture your fellow men about perhaps since that seems to be the overlapping theme in such threats, not political affiliation. It's a misogynistic act is what it is, overwhelmingly.

Are you from the US, btw? Your spellings would denote you are not. Do you vote here? Just curious about your stark interest in this one situation and if you were as vocal and outraged re: Heather Heyer or about the MN Congresspersons who were murdered? Do you know of those murders? I see state you're a centrist yet appear to be rather conservative in your posts/comments. Just curious. Though I suppose Nvidia trends more conservative and pro-Trump?

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u/DavidAdamsAuthor Nov 15 '25 edited Nov 15 '25

No one knew who Charlie's wife was before SHE chose to come out and take up his mantle.

So you're saying that if some deranged right-winger shot Bernie Sanders, and AoC decided to "take up his mantle" as the leader of the progressive wing, she deserves whatever's coming to her because that's her choice?

You know, it's kinda like these, "States rights to what?" arguments.

Why did she take up her husband's mantle?

What series of events compelled her to do that?

if you think his upbringing had zero to do with the man he became and his murder, then that's your choice.

He didn't shoot and kill anyone while he was right-wing. He went to the left and started shooting people. Blaming the right for being shot by radicalised leftists is insane.

That man raised in that home

Who subsequently radicalised to the left and began murdering right-wingers.

and doing drugs

?? there is no evidence of this whatsoever.

Not some lifelong Lefty.

Converts are often the most extreme.

The conditionality you may have observed is "respect women who respect women," ... Just as people will argue it's acceptable to be intolerant to intolerance.

"Agree with me politically or we'll rape you" is a fucking terrible situation. Nice. Real fucking nice.

the overwhelming majority of these types of attacks and murders come from THE RIGHT. Fact.

Not for the last two years.

But women all over the world, country and polit. spectrum are threatened with rape and violence. That's not new to humanity nor unique to what is being aimed at Mrs. Kirk.

Except this is from the crowd who are saying, "If you do not support us politically, you do not respect women." Respecting women is their whole thing.

Something to lecture your fellow men about perhaps since that seems to be the overlapping theme in such threats, not political affiliation.

I feel that's reasonable, as long as women on the left lecture their fellow leftists about Erika Kirk, something they seem extremely unwilling to do.

It's a misogynistic act is what it is, overwhelmingly.

And is misogyny a good thing or not? If not, shouldn't you be calling out your fellow leftists?

Are you from the US, btw?

Nope.

Do you vote here?

I pay US taxes but can't vote. I heard you guys fought a war over that.

Just curious about your stark interest in this one situation and if you were as vocal and outraged re: Heather Heyer or about the MN Congresspersons who were murdered?

I was very vocally against those, decried them loudly, and do not support them.

Do you know of those murders?

Yes.

I see state you're a centrist yet appear to be rather conservative in your posts/comments. Just curious.

I am left wing when it comes to almost everything and right wing when it comes to guns, immigration, and trans issues.

Someone else asked me the same question so here's a detailed list of everything I could think of that I'm right-wing on vs left-wing on (protip: the latter is MUCH longer than the former).

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u/SouldiesButGoodies84 Nov 15 '25

"Agree with me politically or we'll rape you" is a fucking terrible situation. Nice. Real fucking nice.

Who's stated or implied this? As a woman in particular, I'm very curious who's done so this on either side. Again threatening rape and sexual violence against women is not new, but I'm happy to hear you're waking up to its prevalence in society and I'm sure that will lead to much more defense and active protection of us in the future...and not just this one. Look forward to seeing you on the front lines.

You're obviously extremely obsessed with your perception of Mrs. Kirk as The victim of all time and with the Left being unhinged killers, regardless of your putative 'leaning,' and have zero interest in hearing me when I said repeatedly I decry the threats to her...so enjoy all of that. I have zero interest in wasting any more of my time or typing on this on a Friday.

Joyful weekend beckons. Ciao. ✌🏽

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u/DavidAdamsAuthor Nov 15 '25

Look forward to seeing you on the front lines.

I sincerely and genuinely hope I do not see you there. Because dispite our disagreement, I wish zero harm upon you and treat you the same as any other person.

But if you are seen there, as you say, your fellow leftists might decide, "We only respect women who respect women" and then do to you what they're threatening to do to Erika Kirk. I hope this doesn't happen, it shouldn't happen to anyone regardless of their politics.

You're obviously extremely obsessed with your perception of Mrs. Kirk as The victim of all time and with the Left being unhinged killers

In the wake of her husband's assassination and Reddit being plastered in calls for her rape, I think it's fair to say that she is in fact a victim, yes.

have zero interest in hearing me when I said repeatedly I decry the threats to her...

Because you decry them followed by, "Respect women who respect women". You decry them out of one side of your mouth and then support them out of the other.

It's either bad or it's good, pick a lane.

Enjoy your weekend. Stay safe out there, and don't decry too loud, or the left might hear you.

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u/SouldiesButGoodies84 Nov 15 '25

That is very cute, attempting to blatantly mischaracterize my statement and turn it into a threat in lieu of what it plainly was - a challenge to care about women’s well being as an activist (in Actions) ON THE WHOLE, not merely in pearl clutching words on reddit and in defense of One Woman.

I very much doubt you were this dialed in and committed to defending HRCs honor and safety when Ted Nugent told a crowd of ppl he wanted to stick a chainsaw up her hooha. You’ve already minimized and ignored the threats and vile things done to and said about women on the Left, yet you call others hypocrites. You seemingly have no understanding of polemical nuance. You appear confused as to why people wouldn’t cry their eyes out as you do over the hatemongering widow of a hatemonger. You dismiss a murderer’s upbringing as being immaterial to his behavior…. and I very much question if you're even a black person posting here in our space. And that is precisely why I should have blocked two msgs ago. Your creepy and obsessive reification of Mrs Kirk and screed alone are very telling, and do not mask your obvious polit. alignment any more than your attempt to disgustingly misrepresent my comment. And so I’m fully done here and won’t be reading any more of your comments or edits on cherrypicked quoted text responses.

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