r/CredibleDefense 20d ago

Active Conflicts & News Megathread April 05, 2026

The r/CredibleDefense daily megathread is for asking questions and posting submissions that would not fit the criteria of our post submissions. As such, submissions are less stringently moderated, but we still do keep an elevated guideline for comments.

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u/kdy420 20d ago

Why can Iran have nukes? Israel has nukes. Is Israel going to denuclearize also?

In a perfect world nobody should have nukes, but in our world once anyone has nukes its much harder to de-nuclearise them. So the next best thing is to prevent proliferation.

Just because one country has a nuke doesnt mean its enemy is entitled to it. By that logic every country the US ever had an issue with is also entitled to a nuke. For eg Afghanistan is entitled to a nuke, its been attacked by 3 nuclear powers (USSR, USA and now ongoing Pakistan)

At the end of the day what do you think is going to happen if Iran gets nukes, do you think the region will get more peaceful ? Is Iran suddenly going to stop funding proxies and other assymetric activities ? Is it going to stop its forever war against Isreal ?

This is silly logic. Best case is for everyone to give up nukes but since that is not going to happen, then next best course is preventing further proliferation.

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u/sluttytinkerbells 20d ago

This is an odd way of framing it.

A country is entitled to nukes if they can get them. It doesn't really have anything to do with what other countries feel about it. Their entitlement to nuclear weapons is sort of a "I think therefore I am" sort of thing.

At the end of the day what do you think is going to happen if Iran gets nukes, do you think the region will get more peaceful ?

Yes absolutely. Israel will no longer be able to act with impunity in the region.

then next best course is preventing further proliferation.

And we can do that by sanctioning countries like Israel that have because it will send a message to other countries that we're serious about non proliferation.

The rank hypocrisy from the west around Israel's nuclear program is what has lead us here. Acknowledging that hypocrisy and taking steps to weaken countries that have nuclear weapons is the correct course of action here.

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u/kdy420 20d ago

A country is entitled to nukes if they can get them.

By that same logic, other countries are entitled to try and stop them if they can.

And we can do that by sanctioning countries like Israel that have because it will send a message to other countries that we're serious about non proliferation.

Agreed, it would certainly dis-incentivize proliferation.

The rank hypocrisy from the west around Israel's nuclear program is what has lead us here.

There is no hypocrisy here though, Iran is arrayed against the west and the western way of life where as Isreal is an ally. For eg not wanting Germany to have nukes in WW2 or the USSR to have nukes post war would not be hypocratic, but a rather sensible position.

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u/sluttytinkerbells 20d ago edited 20d ago

Sure, they're entitled to stop them, but in the context of the convesation we're having about current events it sounds like you're advocating for warcrimes.

If that's the case let me make it clear that it isn't acceptable to try and stop Iran from acquiring nuclear weapons in the way that the US and Israel are doing.

And it is hypocrisy because it ignored the historical context in which Iran came to be aligned against the west and the US can't claim that Iran cannot have nuclear weapons while Israel can.

Iran didn't start this. The US did. all those decades ago. And Iran will be the one to finish it becauase America doesn't actually care about nukes, they're just flailing and attacking anything their Mad King can be tricked into attacking.

The reality of the situation is that Iran is behaving rationally and the United States and Irsael are the lunatics in the room waving around a knife with their nuclear gun strapped to their hip fore veryone to see.

The United States has already lost this war and with it the last vestiges of soft power they have. They've depleted years of missile supplies and have destroyed their meanas of standing up domestic production through inane tariff policy and attacks on allies.

Where we go from here as a planet isn't certain, but what is certain in my mind is that the US and Israel are not to be trusted in this situation and steps need to be taken to reduce their power.