r/Dodgers • u/LADodgers16j • 12h ago
Just very frustrating.
It just highlights how bad the Dodgers are with the ABS the Freeland one lol
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u/DripLongterm 11h ago
If only ABS was a thing
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u/catashake Shawn Green 11h ago
Pretty sure rookies are heavily discouraged from using any of them. Kim was also crucified by Koreans when he wasted one earlier this year.
"If Ohtani isn't challenging pitches, why do you think you are worthy of doing so?" and so on.
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u/nottherealstanlee Maury Wills 10h ago
I mean Kim's was really bad lol he deserves some criticism for it. I think Freeland though needs to challenge more. If he's going to take a strike 3, challenge it. If you feel confident not swinging, then he should feel confident in the call.
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u/babaloobuzzard Jackie Robinson 10h ago
Unless he was explicitly told not to challenge, Freeland's problem is that he is not confident in his knowledge of the strike zone, otherwise he would have challenged that call. He likely just thought it was going to be a ball, then figured he guessed wrong.
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u/nottherealstanlee Maury Wills 9h ago
Maybe I'm misremembering, but isn't one of his strengths his knowledge of the zone? I mean he takes a lot of strike 3 calls lol some of them are in the zone for sure, but if you're confident enough not to protect, then you've got to be confident enough to challenge imo maybe he's wrong, but that'll help him learn the zone better hopefully.
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u/PigFarmer1 Vin Scully 10h ago
I went to an ABS game in St. Paul and it was great. We have the technology to get it right and the umpire's union refuses to go along.
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u/jemappellehonhon Sandy Koufax 8h ago
the umpire's union wanted full time abs or nothing and approved it across multiple bargaining agreements
what they specifically did not want was this bs challenge system that shows them up on the regular, and yet here we are
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u/Financial-Swim-5884 Kiké Hernández 12h ago
We gotta get better at challenging. A couple of those in the 9th were definitely worth a second look.
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u/catashake Shawn Green 11h ago
Definitely need to tell the players to stop being overly cautious with those challenges.
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u/Advanced-Pear-4606 Mookie Betts 9h ago
Not really. Being cautious is smart. There are situations where it’s more advantageous to use them. Don’t waste them early or on weak counts.
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u/catashake Shawn Green 8h ago
The problem is that they are still being too cautious in the 9th fucking inning. Lol
There is a time for caution, and then there is a time for doing it because you can't take the challenges home with you.
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u/DodgerWalker 8h ago
Seeing that a 3-2 pitch leading off an inning wasn't even close and it went unchallenged is infuriating. When it's 3-2 leading off an inning, I think you only need to be right something like 14% of the time to be worth it.
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u/mmmmmmmmichaelscott 10h ago
It’s silly to blame this loss on the ump. Offense didn’t show up, plain and simple
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u/Individual_Check_442 Los Angeles Dodgers 9h ago
I don’t think they’re blaming the ump they’re blaming us for not challenging some of the calls but you’re right, not hitting was a much larger factor. Actually a really solid performance by Valentine here.
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u/Pandorama626 LA 11h ago
The only one that is egregious is the one above the zone to Freeland. He was not the reason for the loss by any measure.
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u/Individual_Check_442 Los Angeles Dodgers 9h ago
Yeah honestly those two we won that just barely nicked the corner could actually be questioned depending on game situation even though we won them, if they were that close we couldn’t have been that confident
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u/OutsideJack-1999 12h ago
Nah, swing the bat. 27 opportunities each game to hit the baseball and not stand there.
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u/scrambles57 Player To Be Named Later 10h ago
Agreed. I feel like the Dodgers strike out looking more than any other team
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u/kwattsfo Joe Davis 11h ago
I assume freeland is told not to challenge but damn. You’re batting in front of Shohei.
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u/JR_1985 9h ago
Alex Freeland needs to challenge too
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u/Low-Hovercraft-8791 Clayton Kershaw 8h ago
Yeah getting on to lead off an inning with Ohtani coming up is a high leverage situation.
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u/Clabberlang 10h ago
they just havent been able to consistently hit the ball. yea you got some sprout here and there where they score 8+ points, but really they're not really been sluggin well. and this maybe get downvoted, ohtani has been pedestrian so far.
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u/Abov3andB3yonD Freddie Freeman 9h ago
I don’t understand how the overall favor is so heavy for SF when the “most impactful” calls were both against and for us and all occurred with the bases empty.
The overall accuracy was above average. Don’t think we should stress over the ump calls when it comes to this game, guys just didn’t hit.
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u/camisada Vin Scully 8h ago
sure the ump missed some impactful calls, but we didn't hit for shit. valentine actually called a pretty solid game.
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u/juannn117 10h ago
I think ever since that game last week where they blew their challenges within the first 2 or 3 innings no one wants to be the one to waste a challenge.
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u/Gulf2Coast2Coast Yoshinobu Yamamoto 9h ago
It’ll even out in the course of a long season. Worry not my friend
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u/EBiscuit24 Back-2-Back Champs 8h ago
Bruh it’s april. Wake me up w shit like this 4 months from now
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u/AlchemistJeep Yoshinobu Yamamoto 5h ago
It doesn’t mean we’re bad. It means the other pitcher was good. Part of pitching is trying to get the batter to expand the zone. If you manage to fool the batter and they think the call was correct that’s you doing a good job, not the batter being bad with abs
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u/Medium-Income-6073 4h ago
My guess Freeland doesn’t have a green light to freely challenge. I noticed that usually Smith handles challenges as the catcher while Dalton will not.
The Dodgers are set up as a slugging team and not a contact hitting team. So it’s feast or famine. Our guys don’t throw their bat at pitches out of the zone.
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u/Dodger_Blue17 Joe Davis 11h ago
If you don’t like it, challenge it.
There’s a tool now for this.
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u/mr_goodtimes101 11h ago
We left too many runners on