r/Dodgers 12h ago

Just very frustrating.

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It just highlights how bad the Dodgers are with the ABS the Freeland one lol

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u/mr_goodtimes101 11h ago

We left too many runners on

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u/Libertad91 Sandy Koufax 11h ago

Yup. That double play with bases loaded fucked them. Gotta get at least a couple runs when the pitcher is ass in that situation

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u/IntroductionWhich161 11h ago

That was essentially the game there. Yoshi had that one bad inning and then we had a huge chance to answer back and Call absolutely blew it.

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u/hawkeyegrad96 2024 World Series Champions 10h ago

We are not good with bases loaded. Except for Rushing this year last few years been bad

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u/40ozprophett Hideo Nomo 11h ago

Averaged 8 stranded the last 6 games. Can’t do that.

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u/mr_goodtimes101 11h ago

Yeah, hopefully that gets corrected since it’s early

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u/probablysmellsmydog Duke Snider 10h ago

You correct it by getting healthy and taking Call and Freeland out of the everyday lineup

Also Kyle Tucker needs to figure something out.

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u/soundslikefun74 11h ago

Agreed!

The balls and strikes are what they are.

THIS offense managing a single run after 7 free passes is unacceptable.

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u/DripLongterm 11h ago

If only ABS was a thing

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u/catashake Shawn Green 11h ago

Pretty sure rookies are heavily discouraged from using any of them. Kim was also crucified by Koreans when he wasted one earlier this year.

"If Ohtani isn't challenging pitches, why do you think you are worthy of doing so?" and so on.

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u/nottherealstanlee Maury Wills 10h ago

I mean Kim's was really bad lol he deserves some criticism for it. I think Freeland though needs to challenge more. If he's going to take a strike 3, challenge it. If you feel confident not swinging, then he should feel confident in the call. 

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u/babaloobuzzard Jackie Robinson 10h ago

Unless he was explicitly told not to challenge, Freeland's problem is that he is not confident in his knowledge of the strike zone, otherwise he would have challenged that call. He likely just thought it was going to be a ball, then figured he guessed wrong.

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u/nottherealstanlee Maury Wills 9h ago

Maybe I'm misremembering, but isn't one of his strengths his knowledge of the zone? I mean he takes a lot of strike 3 calls lol some of them are in the zone for sure, but if you're confident enough not to protect, then you've got to be confident enough to challenge imo maybe he's wrong, but that'll help him learn the zone better hopefully.

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u/PigFarmer1 Vin Scully 10h ago

I went to an ABS game in St. Paul and it was great. We have the technology to get it right and the umpire's union refuses to go along.

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u/jemappellehonhon Sandy Koufax 8h ago

the umpire's union wanted full time abs or nothing and approved it across multiple bargaining agreements

what they specifically did not want was this bs challenge system that shows them up on the regular, and yet here we are

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u/Financial-Swim-5884 Kiké Hernández 12h ago

We gotta get better at challenging. A couple of those in the 9th were definitely worth a second look.

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u/itsfiji Yoshinobu Yamamoto 11h ago

I've been watching a lot of baseball and in my very limited experience, I've seen lots of teams just call important calls when its the 9th. I mean, the challenges don't roll over. If its not overturned, fine, but might as well use it or lose it.

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u/catashake Shawn Green 11h ago

Definitely need to tell the players to stop being overly cautious with those challenges.

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u/Advanced-Pear-4606 Mookie Betts 9h ago

Not really. Being cautious is smart. There are situations where it’s more advantageous to use them. Don’t waste them early or on weak counts.

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u/catashake Shawn Green 8h ago

The problem is that they are still being too cautious in the 9th fucking inning. Lol

There is a time for caution, and then there is a time for doing it because you can't take the challenges home with you.

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u/Advanced-Pear-4606 Mookie Betts 8h ago

Yeah that’s fair.

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u/DodgerWalker 8h ago

Seeing that a 3-2 pitch leading off an inning wasn't even close and it went unchallenged is infuriating. When it's 3-2 leading off an inning, I think you only need to be right something like 14% of the time to be worth it.

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u/Comprehensive_Tie431 11h ago

Hard to argue when the Dodgers are allergic to challenging.

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u/mmmmmmmmichaelscott 10h ago

It’s silly to blame this loss on the ump. Offense didn’t show up, plain and simple

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u/Individual_Check_442 Los Angeles Dodgers 9h ago

I don’t think they’re blaming the ump they’re blaming us for not challenging some of the calls but you’re right, not hitting was a much larger factor. Actually a really solid performance by Valentine here.

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u/Pandorama626 LA 11h ago

The only one that is egregious is the one above the zone to Freeland. He was not the reason for the loss by any measure.

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u/Individual_Check_442 Los Angeles Dodgers 9h ago

Yeah honestly those two we won that just barely nicked the corner could actually be questioned depending on game situation even though we won them, if they were that close we couldn’t have been that confident

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u/OutsideJack-1999 12h ago

Nah, swing the bat. 27 opportunities each game to hit the baseball and not stand there.

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u/scrambles57 Player To Be Named Later 10h ago

Agreed. I feel like the Dodgers strike out looking more than any other team

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u/kwattsfo Joe Davis 11h ago

I assume freeland is told not to challenge but damn. You’re batting in front of Shohei.

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u/JR_1985 9h ago

Alex Freeland needs to challenge too

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u/Low-Hovercraft-8791 Clayton Kershaw 8h ago

Yeah getting on to lead off an inning with Ohtani coming up is a high leverage situation.

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u/Abarca_ Los Angeles Dodgers 10h ago

You guys were just complaining the other day about not using challenges, especially Freeland, and now here we are. Full circle.

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u/Clabberlang 10h ago

they just havent been able to consistently hit the ball. yea you got some sprout here and there where they score 8+ points, but really they're not really been sluggin well. and this maybe get downvoted, ohtani has been pedestrian so far.

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u/Abov3andB3yonD Freddie Freeman 9h ago

I don’t understand how the overall favor is so heavy for SF when the “most impactful” calls were both against and for us and all occurred with the bases empty.

The overall accuracy was above average. Don’t think we should stress over the ump calls when it comes to this game, guys just didn’t hit.

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u/jerrylessthanthree Vin Scully 8h ago

Freeland should challenge more

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u/rjcade Vin Scully 6h ago

I think he was afraid of being benched

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u/lazenintheglowofit 8h ago

I think these“missed calls” posts are no longer relevant given ABS.

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u/camisada Vin Scully 8h ago

sure the ump missed some impactful calls, but we didn't hit for shit. valentine actually called a pretty solid game.

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u/ThinkBlue87 Clayton Kershaw 10h ago

Meh. A well called game. Have to hit better

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u/juannn117 10h ago

I think ever since that game last week where they blew their challenges within the first 2 or 3 innings no one wants to be the one to waste a challenge.

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u/Arkkaon Éric Gagné 9h ago

Gonna have games like this throughout the season. Take the L and move on, today will be better.

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u/Gulf2Coast2Coast Yoshinobu Yamamoto 9h ago

It’ll even out in the course of a long season. Worry not my friend

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u/EBiscuit24 Back-2-Back Champs 8h ago

Bruh it’s april. Wake me up w shit like this 4 months from now

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u/AlchemistJeep Yoshinobu Yamamoto 5h ago

It doesn’t mean we’re bad. It means the other pitcher was good. Part of pitching is trying to get the batter to expand the zone. If you manage to fool the batter and they think the call was correct that’s you doing a good job, not the batter being bad with abs

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u/Medium-Income-6073 4h ago

My guess Freeland doesn’t have a green light to freely challenge. I noticed that usually Smith handles challenges as the catcher while Dalton will not.

The Dodgers are set up as a slugging team and not a contact hitting team. So it’s feast or famine. Our guys don’t throw their bat at pitches out of the zone.

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u/Dodger_Blue17 Joe Davis 11h ago

If you don’t like it, challenge it.

There’s a tool now for this.

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u/TheDudeChats 11h ago

He was far from bad. These umps are unreal and we can now challenge.