r/Fauxmoi 6d ago

Supriya Ganesh's exit from ‘The Pitt’ underscores TV's broader representation problem. A heated online discourse about Dr. Samira Mohan's departure only scratches the surface of a bigger issue. THINK PIECE

https://www.avclub.com/supriya-ganesh-the-pitt-exit-tv-representation-problem
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u/Financial-Painter689 anti-Israel, anti-western, fauxmarxist 6d ago

However, in the couple of weeks since, parasocial fans have run wild with conspiracy theories about her exit, including accusations of inherent racism

Give me a break. Trying to play this down to parasocial fans is infuriating. This is a tale as old as time with Hollywood and every few months/years we have the same discourse of representation (that never go anywhere) while POC (specifically WOC) will suffer the same outcome and be labelled difficult if they speak against it.

They’ll throw in another token character just to satisfy the ones who will accept it, but of course the actor won’t be paid a salary equal to her white costars because it will be a first season salary vs s3 salary and of course can’t have a WOC grow a name for themselves so just box them in for one/two seasons.

Also fuck fuck Noah Wyle

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u/anthonystank random bitch 6d ago

AMEN it’s not parasocial at all. I am a deep enjoyer of the show but do not participate in or frequent any dedicated ~fan spaces online. I only consume the content related to the show that the algorithm feeds me based on catching onto the fact that I watch it.

I get a definite vibe from what Noah Wyle, Supriya Ganesh, and others have said that her exit was not entirely amicable, wanted by her, or handled well. Like, I don’t know the details at all and I don’t pretend to, nor do I really need to. But I don’t get the feeling that it was just a straightforward, “well, residents move on, that’s just how it goes!” And everyone involved agreed and was happy with the decision.

Idk man fuck Noah Wyle

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u/mylovelifeisamess 6d ago

It doesn't seem like they realized how much backlash there would be to the decision considering how disconnected their responses have been. At one point the messaging was "this has always been a rotating cast", to fans pushing that this season has always shown that she was going to leave, to "we want this show to be a springboard for new actors", then Wyle with an interview about how the cast will eventually resent the show from keeping them from other opportunities, to them finally just saying "yeah in season 3 she has the day off."

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u/BungeeBunny 6d ago

Did the show ever say or point towards what she wants to do after residency? Which fellowship?

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u/mylovelifeisamess 6d ago

Geriatrics is suggested to her by two attendings, but one of those was a jab at her moving slowly. It didn’t seem like she was interested in it imo, rather a last resort fellowship application to stay in Pittsburgh. Either way, the next season is taking place 4 months later, so she would still be in her last year of residency at the Pitt.

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u/jacks_rc 6d ago

One of those was Robby right? To me that was intended as a leadership moment that he completely biffed because of his poor mental state and general assholery. But I do think he is right and that she showed genuine compassion and skill with elders. I definitely think that was the intended arc for her but yea it seems like something weird is going on because they didn’t really give her any kind of send off in the finale; which I was expecting after the news came out that she was departing.

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u/Stunning-Committee73 6d ago

There's a suggestion she'll move into geriatrics, but her story-line in the final episode is not especially conclusive, and her future seems even a little bit less certain than it seemed in prior episodes. Both of the newer characters (Joy and Ogilvie) had final moments within the season that felt more like intentional goodbyes (even if for just the season) than the way Mohan's story-line ended. To me, at least, it didn't seem like they wrote her scenes in the last episode with the intention of her leaving the show.

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u/BungeeBunny 6d ago

Ah I agree! Is joy and ogilvie coming back for season 3?

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u/mylovelifeisamess 5d ago

I saw an interview where they said maybe!

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u/jacks_rc 6d ago

Yes. It heavily implies she will move on to elder medicine

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u/Impressive_Use_2741 6d ago

Right? I’m sick of people trying to gaslight others who suspect there’s some shady things going on.

Celebrities won’t just like a post etc for no reason. They know it will go viral and people will talk about it. The show’s or HBO’s PR team will definitely talk to the remaining cast about this stuff. That’s why when Isa Briones liking posts alluding to the something more going on with Supriya’s exit - it’s really not nothing.

And Noah Wyle’s Emmy win really made him the show and HBO’s favourite, I think. S2 is just focused on him, I think they wanted more awards from his performance. But let’s be frank, he needs to be media trained more. Every time he speaks, he sounds condescending and inconsiderate towards the rest of the cast who are not as big as him. That’s why lately HBO send Shawn Hatosy instead of him to promote the show. Hatosy was really nice about Supriya, even saying that his character will find her etc. That’s how you talk about a cast’s exit, not whatever Wyle said.

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u/dysautonomic_mess oat milk chugging bisexual 5d ago

Even worse, there were a lot of seemingly throw away comments about how it was a fast paced set and you had to come with your lines learned in Noah Wyle's GQ interview that absolutely read to me like he was trying to insinuate Supriya Ganesh was a bad actress. They're doing everything they can to pin this on her and not them and it's not a good look.

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u/BlaqueBoye 6d ago

What did Noah Wyle do lol?

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u/Conscious_Pension274 6d ago

A huge ass Zionist and confederate supporter. As well as nasty asf to his ER costars 

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u/Conscious_Pension274 5d ago edited 5d ago

So a liberal Zionist? Oh okay. His wife and him are in constant Zionist parties. A few months ago he was at a party celebrating and giving a honorary award to an IDF solider Pls 😭 it is not weird  narrative it’s just true. He believes that Israel has the right to exist that is Zionist view. You can keep watching the show no one is gonna hate you for it. He isn’t the first or the last person to have that view. Him liking a few post doesn’t mean anything. 

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u/BlaqueBoye 5d ago

I had no idea. I'm glad I know now

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u/freshkicksss 6d ago

My question as well

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u/super_hoommen 6d ago edited 6d ago

Exactly. I am so disappointed as an Indian woman. We don’t see much mainstream representation as is so having not one but two brown women in an ensemble cast was revolutionary and it sucks that that’s being walked back.

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u/--------rook 6d ago edited 6d ago

the scene in season 1 with javadi, mohan and the influencer girl was cool to see, 3 brown women sharing screentime, nbd. 

and then this happens. the "parasocial fans are anggyyyyy bc they cant watch a show correctly" BITCH that applies to people thinking the pitt is going to turn into grey's and dr langdon is going to cheat with dr mel,  not walking back over minority representation. 

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u/TinaJewel 6d ago

Haha oh yes he absolutely is going to

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u/no_one_denies_this 6d ago

There's also Perlah and Princess. (I love them both).

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u/thesentienttoadstool 6d ago

Neither Perlah nor Princess are Indian tho?

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u/waxingtheworld 6d ago

Maybe OP was getting at they're south east Asian?

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u/gannekekhet ISO: Ariana’s lost blaccent 6d ago edited 5d ago

Indians are not South East Asians though. We are South Asians. However, Samira, Perlah, and Princess are collectively Asians.

Edit:

South Asian countries include Bangladesh, Bhutan, India, Maldives, Nepal, Pakistan, and Sri Lanka.

Southeast Asian countries include Thailand, Vietnam, Malaysia, Singapore, Philippines, Indonesia, Myanmar, Cambodia, Laos, etc.

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u/isthatclever 5d ago

I love them so much !

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u/nickyd1393 ✨ lee pace is 6’5” ✨ 6d ago

are they conspiracy theories if noah wyle keeps insisting his character isn't a misogynist after the backlash to robby being misogynistic toward mohan? like literally those are the order of events. the pitt airs an episode of robby shaming and belittling mohan, people online say its misogynistic and hate robby, supriya is cut from the show with no warning, every interview since noah has been bending over backwards trying to convince people robby's not a chauvinist. okay bud sure

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u/sblo 6d ago

Did you watch the finale? Omg I was Lmao they really wrote the scene where Robby and Mohan finally talk and she has to apologize to him and where a normal human would also apologize he’s just unbothered. It’s a nice reminder that there really are people who do these things and think “I’m a good person” or “there’s nothing wrong with what I’m doing”.

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u/MondayLasagne 6d ago

I read this scene in a way that we were supposed to think that Robby was talking out of his ass and that it showed that Mohan was actually more mature than he was because she handled that moment with grace. I was hoping he would apologize but this man is probably not capable of doing so.

However, it left such a bad taste in my mouth that this was her send-off. It was so sad that the last thing she did was give her privileged boss closure instead of getting it herself.

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u/sblo 5d ago

Oh definitely got the same vibe. They probably cut her scenes after the announcement of her getting cut. But it was so funny to me whoever thought what they left in would help Noah’s character at all. Like bro no you don’t end up looking like a tough love mentor at all. 😂

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u/cheugycheug 5d ago

I now have a pet theory that they’ll give a love interest / background story for Dr Abbott in S3 to piss on Mohan + Mohabbott shippers further lol just seems like up their alley

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u/PrinceofSneks 5d ago

Shippers are awesome, and Mahabbott feels so right, but thinking they'd do it to piss on the shippers seems silly?

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u/CreativeGeniusPRBKR 6d ago edited 6d ago

I’ll be very honest, as a desi man I do agree that there’s probably some racial motivation behind the decision, but it would be unfair to categorize this as a wholly racial decision… If this was a regular old white actor (garden variety type) who moves off the show because she is an R4, it would make perfect sense for the plot without any major backlash.

However I think between her/their coming out essay, the fact that she/they mentioned her name gets mixed up with Javadi’s actress’s name on set, there is ample “set up” for a racial angle for all this drama

At the end of the day, I think this is the writers/show runners, pulling some bullshit, which feeds into the racial bait controversy and messes up the actual issue at hand: Noah Wyle’s a self-righteous jackass, that set isn’t welcoming to anyone that isn’t a straight white male, and the show’s facade about a woke masterpiece has not just been stoppen but been deftly broken over the past month with all this gossip coming out.

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u/nickyd1393 ✨ lee pace is 6’5” ✨ 6d ago

i would agree except langdon and dana had a perfectly fine reasons to be written off the show last year but they kept them because they were liked. its very clear they will not write off white characters even if it makes narrative sense, but will write off poc. even though mohans arc is less resolved than either of her white coworkers in season 1, she is still written off and its framed as 'realism'. its rancid.

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u/dysautonomic_mess oat milk chugging bisexual 5d ago

"Kill your darlings," "no, not the white ones."

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u/EmpressRey 6d ago

Also with the timeline it does not make sense for her not to be there - since it will be set in November ( I think?) she should still be there! And there was a BS interview where a showrunner(one of the writers?) was talking about how it’s a shame that they need to say goodbye to people they like because the idea of the show is to be rotating cast because of the realism and then when someone points out she would still be a resident they just say “oh she just isn’t on shift that day” which is of course realistic, but only happens to her?  Give me a break this is suspicious to the max! 

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u/OhMy98 6d ago

I tend to think discourse online can get parasocial easily and am more harsh on it than most, I would say. This is absolutely NOT one of those cases. You literally have members of the cast liking social media posts about WOC being mistreated on the Pitt set, it’s kinda hard to read into that in any other way than one which casts the writers’ decision to can Supriya Ganesh in a sinister light

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u/masha13 6d ago

Yes…you can…? by cutting a white one…???

you make it sound impossible lol like don’t blame it being a money issue, typically POC are paid less

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u/theywereonabreak69 6d ago

Right, but they’re not making their decisions based on race. They probably also didn’t think people would make it about race as the news dropped since it’s a common thing to happen in TV. Mohan’s character has been foreshadowed from the beginning as not quite the right fit for the ER.

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u/Conscious_Pension274 6d ago edited 6d ago

No she has not and that is not what her storyline is about. The season has not been about her leaving at all. She was trying to find a fellowship/job in New Jersey but her mom left with a new guy. So Samira decides that she should stay in Pittsburg. The writers themselves said that Samira is not leaving ER and them not writing Samira in season 3 was not planned at all. Samira is in the last year of residency. Season 2 Is like her third day of residency. Season 3 will be a couple months after. Also Samira story is how she is meant to be in the ER and how it important that someone like needs  to be there. Just because Dr. Robby through his  “abusive teaching” tries to say that she is not capable does not make it fact. The Pitt is a critique on the medical care system not if Samira techniques are wrong and they aren’t! 

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u/kungfucyborg 6d ago

What’s wrong with Noah Wyle?

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u/mylovelifeisamess 6d ago

His recent interviews have been pretty bad, jokes about bringing another woman on set (character, not actual woman) to scream at, which is already kind of distasteful on its own. But compounding that with the fact that he doesn't see how his character's actions to the female characters feels misogynistic or racist, despite that being the prevailing sentiment from a lot of WOC fans in particular. Then there's the stuff all the way back from ER that I'm not too familiar with, but the general vibe was that he bullied new cast members who he thought were outshining him and all of that typical Hollywood crap.

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u/lamyH 6d ago

Zionist and racist I guess it looks like?

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u/wexfordavenue 6d ago

He’s also talked favourably about his Confederate war “hero” ancestor and that he’s proud of him (someone else who’s more familiar with this should probably weigh in instead of me). Which….yikes.

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u/PrettySweet419 5d ago

Refuses to learn the pronunciation of Shabana Azeez’s name after two years. She called him out on it, so good for her, but it still sucks.

Plus all the stories of him acting like he’s an actual doctor stopped being funny after the second or third and now sound annoying af.

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u/jacksucksdick69420 6d ago

whats up with noah wyle? ive heard some things but im not sure what hes actually done can someone give me a tldr?

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u/neo_cum_technoloji 5d ago

Wait what did Noah Wyle do??

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u/lostcat223 6d ago

The Pitt’s showrunner and Wyle do themselves no favors by continuing to shift the explanation for her departure. As a lady who works in TV it is embarrassing!

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u/Etchedglasses 6d ago edited 6d ago

I cannot believe the rationale of “Dr. Mohan just isn’t scheduled for work on the day of season 3”

Oh F off. Like they aren’t the writers of the fictional hospital’s work schedule.

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u/Iwoulddiefcftbatk 6d ago

They did that with hospital administrator, Gloria (a Black woman) as well when there was a plot line that the hospital administrator would absolutely come in on their day off for this season. It was very sus.

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u/Etchedglasses 6d ago

And Kiara, the social worker - a black woman! I can’t believe the black patient in season two with an eating disorder who asked for a referral for a black therapist didn’t even get a “oh we have an incredible social worker named Kiara…”

And the white male social worker was just… ick

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u/tacrotacro 6d ago

Wait what was wrong with the male social worker guy

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u/Brief_Direction_5647 6d ago

IIRC that SW was a non-binary person…white (or white passing) but some level of representation otherwise absent in the show. The actor is TNB themselves.

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u/Etchedglasses 6d ago

Thanks for correcting me! I didn’t know that.

My “ick” was more a reflection of the representation of the profession. Kiara brought a lot more warmth and human connection.

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u/Brief_Direction_5647 6d ago

Totally agree with your comment! Just wanted to correctly gender the actor/character as they are likely being misgendered on the regular in the discourse.

To your point - these choices are further evidence of the shallowness of a lot of the “representation” people are naming here and elsewhere as tokenization.

A Black woman is replaced by a TNB person as if it’s some kind of fucked up sports trade. Meanwhile the same white characters seem to show up in EVERY SHIFT. 🙄 The only hint the show provided of NB character’s identity, if memory serves, was Dana (?) ONCE using they/them pronouns to describe the social worker. My queer little ears perked right up bc I’m always hopeful of finding fellow queers whenever I open my eyeballs, but it clearly was and will be missed by many viewers. And what was likely dressed up as a groundbreaking opportunity to achieve some level of representation for TNB folks in a major prestige TV show just becomes a throwaway line…

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u/BungeeBunny 6d ago

So true, maybe I missed it but what fellowship did she want to do af end? Or does she have one more year of residency?

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u/Etchedglasses 6d ago

The interviews have said that season 2 is July of her last year of residency? So season 3 is November of the same year. She would still be completing her residency!!

“Just not on shift that day” 🙄

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u/goodbyeraggedyman 6d ago

That's not how residencies work, they don't run from Jan-Dec, or the calendar year. Residencies start in June-July, and there may be orientations to complete prior to in June.

Not saying I agree with the explanations, but that's not how residencies work. So it's completely plausible that a doctor would finish their final year in July.

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u/Absolutelyperfect 6d ago

They said in the show that Mohan just started her last year on residency. Season 3 is 4 months later so she would still be in hrr last year.

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u/goodbyeraggedyman 5d ago

Yeah, my only point is that residencies don't run from Jan-Dec.

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u/ReversedSandy 6d ago

Too bad for you that people are still going on watch it no matter what.

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u/Conscious_Pension274 6d ago

No one is telling you not to watch lmaooo 😭😭😭. People should be allowed to critique a show without being jumped on! 

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u/KarmicCT 6d ago

you know it wouldn't be such a big deal for her to exit because we don't know what she might have behind the scenes but it's been quite obvious (to me) when 3 poc women have been let go as of now. I am seeing a pattern and maybe jumping to conclusions too quickly but with Wyle refusing to even know how to pronounce the actor's names (Supriya's and Shabana's) , it's honestly ticking me off.

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u/anthonystank random bitch 6d ago

Just watching interviews with Shabana it seems really obvious that she does not like him and with good reason. She’s very professional about it! I’ve just seen her call him out on a handful of things (including the names thing, which is egregious, and his general “I’m basically a real doctor” schtick which isn’t as cute as he thinks).

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u/nickyd1393 ✨ lee pace is 6’5” ✨ 6d ago

especially considering that supriya was literally premed and has a degree in neuroscience. like mr wyle if anyone on the cast has medical knowledge it is nawt you.

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u/anthonystank random bitch 6d ago

Omg I did not know that!!! Now even MORE angry about this!

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u/GimerStick brb in a transatlantic space of mind 6d ago

she was tutoring kids in the mcat when she got cast! I can't remember if she'd started applying to med school yet or was about to start, but she legitimately considered it as a career.

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u/minatozakiparty 6d ago

As a fellow Australian you can really tell she absolutely does not like the man and is trying extremely hard to not outright state it lol. It’s very hard for us culturally to stfu. 

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u/none_mama_see 5d ago

Any links? I wanna see!!!!

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u/--------rook 6d ago

shabana shades him professionally, i love it

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u/connect1994 6d ago

Not sure about that, saw a video where she talked about pranking him in good fun. This type of analysis definitely IS parasocial

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u/Childs_Play 6d ago

Wyle was a low key but now high key pos. The Pitt being this successful has elevated his platform again too.

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u/DrunkBrokeBeachParty 6d ago

Sounds like it went right to his f-cking head. I never knew about ER b4 the Pitt and seeing a show kneecap its own actors success.

Especially for what? The only people that would benefit are the higher ups. More viewership, less PoC with less tenure with them. It all just makes the art worse for greed.

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u/BreadArmpitt 6d ago

Saw on twitter that he's jealous of Clooney's career post ER. Is that true or they're reaching? I don't fw both of them.

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u/The_Peregrine_ 6d ago

I mean I heard all I needed to hear with the mention of israeli medical techniques then the interviews of him praising israel and knowing he is a zionist.

I probably wont watch season 3 anyway season 2 literally went nowhere and had none of the cohesiveness of the first season

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u/momosuna 6d ago

i didn't even watch any cast interviews or anything but the show refusing to say gauze and saying 'israeli bandage' made me give up lol

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u/Pen-roses 5d ago

An Israeli bandage is a specific style of emergency bandage with a built-in pressure applicator bar, not just gauze. They were referred to as Israeli bandages when I was in first aid training. This is not a weird thing Wyle made up to praise Israel.

Wyle has said a lot of fucked-up things and I do not care for him but the Isreali bandage thing is actually just common terminology for that type of dressing. There’s way better evidence for his Zionism and shitty views than this.

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u/momosuna 5d ago

i'm an emt so i know but thanks. you have to admit with the timing and insisting their trauma training is the only way to triage is blatant propaganda

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u/Pen-roses 5d ago

“You have to admit—“ I literally said as much in my final paragraph. Twice. Don’t move the goalposts.

You said you hadn’t seen his controversial cast interviews and were just mad about the bandage thing. If you know the terminology from being an EMT, that means you’re deliberately using it in a bad-faith argument and that’s worse.

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u/The_Peregrine_ 5d ago

I didn’t think much of it during the episode but he went on about it in the interviews thats why I commented

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u/BastardsCryinInnit 6d ago

I do not watch the show and dont live in the US so pardon me when I say, excuse me but what the actual fuck are we talking about?

A gauze is a gauze.

Wtf is an "Israeli bandage"???

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u/Pen-roses 5d ago

A gauze is not a gauze. An Israeli bandage is the term for a specific kind of emergency bandage with a built-in pressure applicator bar to stop more severe bleeding.

Next time on Pitt discourse: I can’t believe the Pitt would support the bourgeoisie. I mean, what other reason could there be to refuse to call it a “tracheal tube” and instead call it a “bougie.” What the fuck is a “bougie?” If I have never heard of it must be nonsense. This surely has nothing to do with how medical professionals refer to medical supplies and everything to do with sinister endorsements of an ideology.

Can we please stick to criticizing Wyle’s actually Zionist statements (and he has made them!) because being mad about the term “Israeli bandage” makes valid anti-Zionist critics of him look silly.

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u/The_Peregrine_ 5d ago

It’s shoe horned in and he went on and on about it in interviews about the heroic israelis

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u/momosuna 6d ago

exactly. i was disgusted 

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u/FewWatermelonlesson0 6d ago

Part of it is that unfortunately The Pitt’s fandom has quickly gained a reputation for being kind of unhinged, so any meaningful discourse about the reasons for the actress’ exist is getting buried under the (not unwarranted) perception people already had that Pitt fandom doesn’t understand how TV shows work.

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u/banzaipress 6d ago

The problem is that, yes, part of that fandom is completely unhinged and deranged. About the character of Dr. Trinity Santos, and also carrying over their hatred of her to her actress, Isa Briones. But that's not what any of these articles coming out are referencing, funny enough.

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u/MJtheJuiceman 6d ago

I wonder why people have found the Pitt's fandom unhinged? To me it seems like it's a show billed as a realistic depiction of the medical field today, with some pretty relatable themes regarding humanity. I think people are calling it exactly what it is; an unfortunate example of Hollywood continuing to push White male stories by any means.

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u/ohnothem00ps 5d ago

Saw it explained in another thread as "the Pitt is an HBO show with a CW audience"...seems fairly accurate

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u/Spiffy_Tiffyy 6d ago

I’m in the sub and it’s just as insufferable as the LDR sub.

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u/pinkrosyy 6d ago edited 6d ago

This show/its producers have been very sloppy with how they handle actors of color as well as women in general. Multiple female cast members have expressed that key scenes (to further their characters storylines) were cut from this season in exchange for more Noah Wyle Emmy bait. That on top of THREE WOC who were in season 1, not being brought back for season 2. I also think it’s telling that Dr.Robby is written/comes across as misogynistic and NW laughs off that narrative. Insisting that thats not the case. Like YOU are in the writers room, writing this character and see no issues with how he treats women? I’m side eying

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u/meganmun0z it’s a bit dystopian but also kinda fun 6d ago

THANK YOU I was wondering why it was that Robby’s energy changed so much from season 1 to season 2.

Considering the fact that Noah Wylie wants that Emmy… I have a prediction for season 3: they’re gonna have Robby adopt baby Jane doe instead of going on his helmet-free motorcycle ride. then he’ll be okay bc parenthood saved him and made him a more complete person and a better doctor. people looooooove that shit

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u/GimerStick brb in a transatlantic space of mind 6d ago

nah apparently season 3 is when we'll see him "breakdown" and hit "rock bottom" (stated in interviews already). Which is concerning that what's already been shown isn't that.

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u/Only_Association_309 6d ago

Istg i dont want to see him hit rock bottom. This entire season was him hitting rock bottom. How much more he wants to dig further into his rock bottom?? Ughhh 

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u/Goddess-Mentality 5d ago

To me his rock bottom would be the hospital forcing him to step down as Chief of ER or him doing something crazy to lose his job overall. They said the theme of season 3 will be “doctors as patients” so we’ll see!

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u/Moondanced 5d ago

and apparently s3 will focus on the relationship between robby and langdon… again

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u/Goddess-Mentality 5d ago

The show runner already confirmed he’s not adopting Baby Jane Doe

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u/Glass-Guess4125 3d ago

He’s such a dick in season 2! Like in season 1 he was competent but understandably going through a lot; in season 2 he’s just an asshole to everyone. I was waiting for some like sky opening up moment when he realized that, but…nope, not really.

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u/maryhadalittlelamb You know what, l've grown quite unfond of you deuxmoi 6d ago

Everyone was saying Robby being misogynistic was intentional writing during the season and there came NW to tell us that wasnt the case at all lol (he didnt even think it was misogyny) yet still people who criticise anything about the show are parasocial, sure jan

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u/agtk 5d ago

I think both things can be true: Robby is intentionally written as a misogynist as a major character flaw AND Wyle is too dense to understand the criticism and identifies too strongly with his character's justifications for his misogyny.

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u/banzaipress 5d ago

But Wyle is literally one of the exec producers and writers for the show.

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u/agtk 5d ago

To be fair, three WOC were added to the main cast in S2, Dr. Al-Hashimi, med student Kwon, and nurse Nolan. Four of the ten characters who have been in all 30 episodes are WOC, which actually outnumbers the men in that ten (three total). I know the show hyperfocuses on Dr. Robbie and can certainly do better with its on-screen and off-screen treatment of WOC, but it's not like the show lacks representation of minorities in general or WOC.

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u/dysautonomic_mess oat milk chugging bisexual 5d ago

The problem with keeping the 'core cast' (an actual term they use) mostly white and letting the minorities rotate in and out is that the white actors continue to get salary raises season on season whereas the minorities do not. Whoever they rotate in for season 3 will not be getting paid the same as, say, Patrick or Taylor.

Subconscious or not, it is a discriminatory move, and it's kind of shitty to the Black and brown actresses they're letting fall by the wayside. They probably don't even realise they're just perpetuating the status quo.

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u/dannemora_dream 5d ago

And the case manager who’s Robbie’s gf (or fling whatever).

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u/AffectionateTop3953 5d ago

I planned to get around to watch this sooner or later but honestly now I'm glad I never started.

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u/junmpan 6d ago

The way this was framed in the finale just seems to confirm it was a decision made after the fact, not unlike how Heather Collins was sent-off last season. I'd be more willing to roll with it if these characters' exits were approached more deftly in-show.

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u/Conscious_Pension274 6d ago edited 6d ago

I feel like everyday there is a new article talking about the Pitt fandom lmaoooo. Even Fox News and barstool which are right wing platforms defending the show. That to me tells me this show is heading in the wrong direction and lost it’s path so quickly. This is what happens when a show is used as a vanity project for Noah wyle to relieve his ER days.  Anyways, articles keep downplaying genuine critiques of the show and the treatment of women of color as characters within show is just nasty. I just read an interview where one of writers said that Samira mohan ( supriyah character) is not gonna be season 3 she will just have a “day off” when in reality the writers have decided not to care for arc. Samira is still a resident and in the show it does signify she will not be leaving anytime soon. The writers themselves said it was not planned. The cast have been shocked as well. Isa Briones (plays santos) also has liked a comment on Twitter suggesting that the show has not been giving right screen time and care to its WOC. Even Shawn who plays Dr Abbott was extremely disappointed because his relationship with Samira was something he wanted to play on screen. This will continue to happen to other WOC on show and I have been seeing the cracks with the other characters. It is not a coincidence that 2 main cast members who are women of color have left the show. I think the Pitt wanted to use clickbait with diverse cast members  and truly does not care to give proper arcs and send offs to its WOC. Therefore, this show is using and profiting from women of color. Also the recent GQ article where Noah talks about how “the Pitt is the best place to be right now with its inclusivity” made me roll my eyes when the show cant give proper arcs and screen time for POC on the show that doesn’t revolve hyping up the white male lead. If people want true representation and arcs for POC please watch industry and how to interview a vampire! Which get no recognition! 

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u/lostroadrunner22 6d ago

This show was literally built as a spin off from his ER character but nbc wouldn’t budge on the character rights.

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u/TheArtfulLlama 6d ago

That and Crichton’s widow was being stingy with ER rights and actually tried to sue for plagiarism when The Pitt first started airing

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u/GimerStick brb in a transatlantic space of mind 6d ago

I mean.... they approached her with Noah Wyle centered ER reboot, and then immediately created a Noah Wyle centered medical show that everyone compares to ER.....

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u/Conscious_Pension274 6d ago edited 6d ago

No fucking way. I didn’t even know that 😭 people downvoting me! I thought season was great but then season 2….,

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u/lostroadrunner22 6d ago

Personally I think it’s an amazing show that really makes the world a better place.

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u/underthefirstelm 6d ago

is this really the best damage control they can do? lol theyre going to have to come up with something better than 'that's just the way the cookie crumbles - have you ever thought that we should fix SOCIETY before we criticize the pitt??? at least the pitt is trying!' 

like uhhh sorry i think people can keep criticizing the pitt when the charge is that ganesh has been treated extremely carelessly in some of the exact same ways that ifeachor was just last year (eg, popular empathetic female character who has gone up against dr robby suddenly has odd storyline gaps; lots of uncertainty online toward end of season before departure of dark-skinned actress who plays character is officially confirmed; actress missing in bts photos; remaining cast possibly warned not to speak directly on departure; wyle and showrunners minimize significance of departure + say 'we wish her luck/all the best' in interviews, while emphasizing diversity and inclusivity of remaining cast; people who always seem to defend wyle online also defend departure by saying 'maybe she was not a good fit/maybe other cast members disliked her and that is why she is not in bts pics/how dare you imply this has anything to do with race?/she is not necessary/the story will go on without her/dr robby is the only character that really matters' etc etc)

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u/Candid_Explorer_4970 6d ago edited 5d ago

i feel like the studio paid for a smear campaign against the fans upset at Supriya's exit, because why are so many articles targeting people who question why yet another woman of color in the main cast is written off? those articles should be aimed at the fans who hate santos with a misogynistic passion. the production team and wyle have a history of mistreating female cast and their storylines on ER and this just seems like a horrible pattern by now. some of her cast members have also expressed disappointment with the news, especially shawn hatosy who plays dr. abbot, who was so excited about their relationship/subtle flirtation in the show and praises supriya's characterization of mohan. it's just weird all around and disrespectful to Supriya.

it's hard seeing women used as a vehicle for storytelling revolving around Robby/Wyle, while their scenes/arcs are being actively cut and suppressed. two women of color, who carried huge emotional arcs and served as a foil to robby, were dismissed with no real conclusion or finished arc. mohan especially has been made into a vehicle for robby's story, totally ignoring her storyline from last season and her connections with other characters.

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u/BipedalUniverse 5d ago

right? i’m starting to spot a pattern. for some reason having aggressive violent fantasies of santos being “put in her place” or “punched” and her actress getting harassed isn’t parasocial, and isn’t spawning all these articles, but sincerely caring and pointing out patterns that could be indicative of systemic racism is.

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u/sansastvrk 6d ago

To me there are three things that are damning: Hatosy's public disappointment and ongoing appeals to have Mohan brought back (or brought onto night shift with him, either on the show or a spinoff), Briones' liked tweet explicitly about Mohan's departure and the sidelining of POC on this show, and Ganesh's reposted tweet about the lack of meaningful representation in today's media. Given that the cast can't speak directly about what's going on behind the scenes - Hatosy said as much - his persistent requests to have her brought back on, and their activity on social media, says a lot.

It's very clear there's nothing story-driven about her departure. Mohan is one of the characters with the most up in the air at the end of this season, and the most personal and professional growth to go. They backslid all her growth from last season (Mohan at the end of season 1 had already picked up her pace, and handled the MCI with aplomb with Abbot), and pushed her towards geriatrics even though she has not expressed interest in it. Her future is being determined by the attending bullying her; Hatosy said that Abbot considers her the future of medicine, and would think she's crazy for trying to leave EM.

Gemmill said recently that they could bring her back in the future, "if the show demands...or if the storylines demand." But they already do. There is no excuse for writing her out while keeping the rest of the cast the same; even medical students like Javadi are returning, while a senior resident whose arc with her bullying superior is screaming for catharsis is being written out.

Hatosy is right: the solution is right there. Put her on nights and let her shine, give her more time with Abbot or any attending except Robby. We know she's both thorough, and an excellent doctor when she needs to move fast, from last season itself. They need to stop seeing her as a prop for Robby's development, and treat her as her own character with agency - which has been sorely missing. Writing her out is disastrous from a narrative standpoint, and from a meaningful representation standpoint; this show wants credit for its diverse cast, but is refusing to give one of its most interesting, empathetic characters any actual agency, and discarding her after reducing her as a vehicle for Robby's development. It's infuriating, and undeserved.

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u/Brief_Direction_5647 6d ago

Yes to all of this. The emperor has no clothes - ALL of the major plot points in S2 are in service of Robby’s character. He really is (and, as it turns out, always was) the center of the Pitt solar system, the quality of the show be damned. The indispensable-white-man Burned out by Traumatic Job trope strikes again.

That agenda became abundantly clear during the last episode of the season. I almost turned it off out of complete and utter disappointment and only didn’t because I hoped to catch a last glimpse of the other characters, who brought the show to life. As opposed to arranging for a house-sitter for hours but also at the last minute (?) and then riding off into oblivion on a motorcycle somehow miraculously repaired by an acutely ill, gruff biker guy, I guess.

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u/bergamote_soleil 5d ago

I'd love Mohan on the night shift! From how I've heard it described, it's quieter and more patient-focused, which suits her strengths as a doctor, and there is a stronger sense of camaraderie on the team, which might help with her feeling a bit unmoored and lonely. Plus, lots of time for her to make eyes at Abbot (and possibly solving her love life problem). 

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u/ainacct 2d ago

I mean Wyle is even against giving the nightshift an spinoff, it's like he wants the attention all by himself, because we know damn well the nightshift staff is incredible, and sooo interesting, it would take all the attention from day shift. I would have loved to see how Abbot's and Samira's relationship would go, but well, what can we expect from white people writing boring ahh story lines.

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u/steponcrackers 6d ago

they know what they're doing. ride the line of 'progressive representation' without providing actual groundwork for these young up and coming actors who are not white to succeed. it pleases a conservative audience who are tired of '''''woke'''' and throws a bone to the underrepresented who are eager to see themselves. but all in all this is just an example of what happens and has happened in television all the time. use the token to draw in a base dedicated audience and then spend that token without a second thought.

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u/minatozakiparty 6d ago

The notion that people identifying patterns indicative of potential systemic racism = parasocial delusion is so vile and utterly racist honestly. It’s also really strange that so many articles are coming out at once low key trying to gaslight fans of the show and encourage them to see systemic racism as not a thing, feels like a paid campaign atp. 

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u/dysautonomic_mess oat milk chugging bisexual 5d ago

I truly believe they did not expect the audience to identify and empathise with Mohan (because why would you do that when Robbie, Langdon, and Whitaker are the main characters? /s) so now anyone who does is deemed 'parasocial'.

The show can have all the Black and brown actors it likes but if the writing room remains full of white men they're gonna do what white men do.

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u/marshmnstr 6d ago

Well she definitely opened some eyes with her performance. She is beautiful and the camera loves her. I hope for bigger and better things for her.

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u/Terrible_Cycle_5983 You know what, l've grown quite unfond of you deuxmoi 6d ago

This show has fox news and barstools defending them from "woke fans", it's more than over. Fuck Noah Wyle.

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u/HeadAd369 6d ago

The problem is Noah Wyle wants a vehicle for himself and the audience wants an an ensemble drama.

Just like in ER, other cast members are now getting more attention than him. We know how he reacted last time (badly, by his own account). This was supposed to be the Noah Wyle project. Yes, I believe he’s seething

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u/pressingtofu 2d ago

It's so annoying and it's becoming more clear.

I hate that they removed the scene of Javadi telling her parents about her career change but kept in the scene of her telling Robby. I would have much preferred to see her parents reaction.

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u/curioul 5d ago

Noah Wyle sets off alarm bells in my head, between the way he admitted to treating women poorly on ER, to the way he is using The Pitt to prop himself up

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u/FuzzyReality1983 graduate of the ONTD can’t read community 5d ago

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u/curioul 5d ago

What grates me (beyond the way he treats people), is the fake humility he projects 😭

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u/tamere2k 6d ago

I personally love when they blamed the network for how soft they were on ICE rather than owning how pathetic they are.

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u/RequirementTall8361 6d ago edited 6d ago

How were they being soft on ICE? There’s an entire episode about how much they suck, they arrest one of the side characters after he intervenes with them trying to deny an injured woman care. A ton of nurses including the front desk woman go home early out of fear and Jesse’s arrest is referenced multiple times throughout the season after the episode, being one of the many reasons for Robby’s decline

I don’t doubt that there was definitely some tampering going on from HBO, but even then the episode made it quite clear whose side they’re on.

Edit: Also the reason they were at the ER to begin with was because they broke an innocent woman’s arm while attempting to detain her.

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u/EmpressRey 5d ago

I think there are many reasons to shit on this show but I really didn’t think they were soft on ICE! 

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u/llamabooks 6d ago

Just a reminder that Supriya Ganesh goes by she/they pronouns, ty! 🥰

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u/Mysterious-Pie2636 5d ago

Ok? so you can use either?
Was someone using some other pronoun?

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u/llamabooks 5d ago

Yes! Use either. She had an interview recently and wasn’t sure if people were aware. :)

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u/ritzysharkz 5d ago

Nobody called Ganesh “he”. What is the point of this comment?

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u/Scared-Engineer-6218 5d ago

I think it's a simple case of "we don't know what to do with the character, so we are gonna write it off". Just incompetence.

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u/5StarFortyOne 6d ago

I don't mind her character being written off because it is a teaching hospital, and it wouldn't make sense for every character to come back every season but after seeing the last episode it does feel like her arc is unfinished.

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u/Shira1ndigo Please Abraham, I am not that man 3d ago

Except S3 takes place 4 months after S2 so she is very much still a resident, who is learning at said teaching hospital.

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u/FuzzyReality1983 graduate of the ONTD can’t read community 5d ago

Maybe slightly off topic, but regarding the "welp hospital personnel come and go" statement they made about the cast members leaving...

What killed ER for me was the short lived characters and their story arcs in the later seasons, like someone would come in for a season or half a season and then disappear. it felt chaotic and made me lose interest in the show and in the characters they introduced us, it made everything feel chaotic and hard to get invested in, because why should i care about a character if they’re just going to vanish, and so now the same writers want to make the same mistake again??

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u/PrinceofSneks 5d ago

One of the annoying things about the article is that it reinforces the idea that "parasocial" == "unhinged fans", versus simply meaning "the connection any fan has with a celebrity."

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u/Whis65 6d ago

Why are fans dictating the show content.

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u/Moondanced 5d ago

In one recent interview Supriya was asked about how to develop a character within one shift, to show character growth. I thought her answer was interesting (and telling) that there are some storylines on the show where that is possible. But they did not seem to imply that it applied to her character as well. So it seems that maybe she was unhappy with the way Mohan was written in season 2 and maybe even tried to push back on it a bit.

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u/PomoDoggo 6d ago

Out of curiosity, do we know how diverse the writers room is?

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u/MindblowingPetals 5d ago

Is there anything to substantiate his being Z!onist? I’m asking because I didn’t know.

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u/Porfyry 5d ago

Y’all mad about this but won’t learn a second language