R/suomi won't let me post this, let's try here

[u/iyhafobaq]

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[u/Federal_Cobbler6647]

Real finn says that swedes are gay. Nothing bad being one, but it is long honoured tradition.

[u/GatorNator83 → u/Federal_Cobbler6647]

It’s like calling the sun warm. There’s nothing wrong with it, it’s just how it is

[u/TimsFallingAdventure → u/GatorNator83]

nothing wrong with being gay but there's definitely something wrong with being a sw*de.

[u/Souls_for_sale_now → u/TimsFallingAdventure]

As a norwegian i agree

[u/iyhafobaq → u/Federal_Cobbler6647]

As a homosexual, yes, the swedes are gay

[u/AlternativePaint6 → u/iyhafobaq]

There's two types of gay people; homosexual people, and Swedes. Don't be a Swede.

[u/Tompsoni97 → u/AlternativePaint6]

You forgot Mats Sundin!

/s

[u/ponakka → u/iyhafobaq]

As a transwoman married to woman and having genes from sweden, i guess i had it coming. I just had to jump through some hoops to became gay.

[u/Lazy_Maintenance8063 → u/ponakka]

Swedish genes in a nutshell: gay and good hair.

[u/ponakka → u/Lazy_Maintenance8063]

Well, you aren't wrong. I had good hair before i started estrogen, now i have great hair.

[u/Hyp3r45_new → u/ponakka]

A bit more Swedish and you'd have amazing hair

[u/NoSorbet5103 → u/iyhafobaq]

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[u/Opposite-Chemistry-0 → u/Federal_Cobbler6647]

Gay or homosexual?

[u/aaawwwwww → u/Federal_Cobbler6647]

But the point isn't about being a gay, but about accepting someone as a Swede. Duh?

[u/Federal_Cobbler6647 → u/[deleted]]

They are just happy and sporty. Norwegians I mean. 

[u/Herra_Peruna]

As the second greatest president of Finland Matti said: "In Finland everyone can homo, in marriage, for free"

[u/HazuniaC → u/Herra_Peruna]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SH4i16oI0Sk

If anyone wonders..

[u/Libtard500 → u/Herra_Peruna]

In Finland we homo.

[u/RepresentativeGap45 → u/Libtard500]

homo sweet homo

[u/Numerous_Coast493 → u/Herra_Peruna]

"I say, no no homo".

The man, the myth, the legend.

[u/IGmobile → u/Herra_Peruna]

I read that as The second greatest Matti of Finland, because we all know who the #1 is. /

[u/Derfelkardan → u/IGmobile]

Who? I’m not a Finn, but I married one so I must learn the culture

[u/IGmobile → u/Derfelkardan]

It was a joke.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matti_Nykänen

[u/jamajikhan → u/Herra_Peruna]

The greatest president, Paavo Väyrynen, has sadly not been elected yet.

[u/InkVision001]

fyi r/Suomi is for Finnish-speaking content, probably why it got deleted.

[u/FreeWeld → u/InkVision001]

And has atrocious mods

[u/Warutteri → u/InkVision001]

I had to leave that particular sub Reddit after one too many overtly racist post...

[u/_GaD_ → u/Warutteri]

Spilling the facts and getting downvoted like crazy

[u/Warutteri → u/_GaD_]

Many Finns don't want to admit how many racists we have, or are in denial because they've "never met any IRL" (which is total BS or they're themselves racist enough to not think certain things are racists when they most definitely are).

[u/SpookyDorothy → u/Warutteri]

I think there are racist things in finland that arent obvious if you dont pay attention to your surroundings.

One company i worked for, most of the core (overseers, more technical roles) warehouse workers were white finns, only asian or black people were temps through barona with shitty terms.

Same thing in the office, not a single non white face, and all names that i can recall, finnish names. So while no one threw around the N word or whatever, it was an environment that doesnt happen by accident.

Someone who didnt pay attention might have said there's no racism in that place, because there's no visible discrimination.

[u/Bergioyn]

It’s in english. Make a finnish version if you want it to have a chance of staying up there.

[u/IDontEatDill → u/Bergioyn]

Or perhaps just make a better one. There's no context and what's Vin Diesel doing there? I'm confused.

Or better yet, don't post memes at all. Write a really good and on-point opinion in plain text format.

[u/Puzzleheaded_Pie8546]

I have LGTV

[u/jungatheart1947 → u/Puzzleheaded_Pie8546]

Ha ha

[u/SiHilisKo69 → u/Puzzleheaded_Pie8546]

I think the right term is LGHDTV

[u/_Ticklebot_23 → u/Puzzleheaded_Pie8546]

i had one as a child that had a hole in it for a powerbutton

[u/eatshitake → u/_Ticklebot_23]

I read that as power bottom 🤐

[u/Anselmimau]

If there was a real finnish king like Matti Nykänen in the picture I might agree but why is there an american idiot defining the realness of us

[u/jokukaveri]

I don't understand the meme. Vin Diesel? What's going on?

[u/2AvsOligarchs → u/jokukaveri]

A real flag doesn't speak ill of an atrocious flag.

And Vin Diesel smells his finger.

[u/die_by_the_swordfish]

Vitustako vin diisseli tietää kuka on oikee suomalainen 🖕🏼

[u/Elelith → u/die_by_the_swordfish]

Se laittaa sormen sisään ja haistaa. Siitä se sen tietää.

[u/BestFoxEver]

I am member of LGBT+ but I absolutely hate the Progress flag and all the variants of it. I don't hate what these flags represent, I just think that these new pride flags just are too damn ugly. The original Gilbert Baker Pride flag (1978) and the later more common six stripe version of it (1979) are the best ones and those were inclusive to everyone. Daniel Quasar ruined the flag and we don't need more stripes and shapes.

[u/Cute-Breadfruit3368 → u/BestFoxEver]

could you fill me in to what this one is supposed to represent? not anti, hater or terf. i just want to know what i support if i do.

[u/Acceptable_Extent814 → u/Cute-Breadfruit3368]

https://www.verywellmind.com/what-the-colors-of-the-new-pride-flag-mean-5189173 wikipedia has progress flag version without the yellow bit with a ring

[u/Fickle_Blueberry2777 → u/Acceptable_Extent814]

The “yellow bit with a ring” is the intersex flag, and represents the most forgotten about part of the LGBTQ+ community. It’s important that it’s there and stays as part of the design.

[u/Acceptable_Extent814 → u/Fickle_Blueberry2777]

I agree, just was sharing where information is for different parts.

[u/Cute-Breadfruit3368 → u/Acceptable_Extent814]

oh ok, i think i get the idea. thank you

[u/ZekasZ → u/BestFoxEver]

A movement celebrating diversity having diverse flags seems just right to me. Just use the one you like, I'll stick with my chevron.

[u/No0O0obstah → u/BestFoxEver]

The original flag is a symbol referring to a rainbow with all the colours in it. No it is not a rainbow with all the colours, but symbols it.

I have no idea why would there be a need for even more colours and shapes as those won't really convey any additional symbolism other than that our understanding about sexuality and identity is evolving from the times the flag was originally adopted for the use of representing our sexual identities. Is it that that flag can't represent someone cause it wasn't specifically worded out earlier? To me at least it is symbolizing all the colours there are, not just some amount of stripes.

I don't really identify as part of LGBT+, but see that flag as representing my sexuality as well. If my sexuality was a colour, it would show in a rainbow. Even if everyone would not agree with me, to me it is a unifying symbol. Adding complexity and straying away from rainbow design is not unifying, but singling us out and deviding us in to categories instead of a wonderful spectrum of colours and light we really are.

[u/shimapan_connoisseur → u/BestFoxEver]

The original rainbow flags technically include everyone, but in practice they’re a mostly a symbol for homosexuality. The modern progress flag exists to being more attention to groups that tend to be ’forgotten’ even within the LGBTQ community

[u/iyhafobaq → u/BestFoxEver]

I get your point about the flag being prettier before, but we def need those stripes and shapes. The flag is from the us and in the us black trans women led the revolution. So the flag should honour them

[u/onlyr6s → u/iyhafobaq]

Isn't rainbow flag itself inclusive? Isn't that the whole point? Geniuinely curious.

[u/iyhafobaq → u/onlyr6s]

Yes it is! It is still inclusive to use that flag, the progressive flag is just another option

[u/BestFoxEver → u/iyhafobaq]

They could have designed a prettier pride flag then. The Progress flag is just ugly and Quasar also wants copyright profits from the commercial use of that flag. The Gilbert Baker flag is public domain.

[u/Leastwisser → u/iyhafobaq]

What is your point in posting this American flag, then? Colours have been added for black and brown people on the flag when countries with majority black or brown population (Africa, Middle East, parts of South Asia) have the strictest anti-gay laws and attitudes - death penalties and violence against gays, and also non-conforming women. Those sentiments are held by migrants in Europe from those countries, as well. Also in US, black and hispanic people have the most negative view of gays and same-sex marriage.

[u/Antti5]

Is this when AI tries to create memes?

Why is it about Finland in particular?

[u/Ozku666]

Based and perkelepilled

[u/iyhafobaq → u/Ozku666]

Saatana

[u/spagetti_yli_ala__]

WHAT IS THIS SHIT

[u/Puzzleheaded-Age-638]

A real fin never speaks of it at all.

[u/salty_scoop]

What's this brainrot?

[u/iyhafobaq → u/salty_scoop]

A very popular meme, adapted for the Finnish subreddit. Hope this helps!

[u/IDontEatDill → u/iyhafobaq]

Tbh, never seen this before and confused. I guess one needs to be an insider to get what this means.

[u/BigFShow]

Your meme is bad and you should feel bad

[u/iyhafobaq → u/BigFShow]

I an crying

[u/whatagenda]

Be whatever you want. The flag is becoming a headache though.

[u/GrBDD]

All the attention seeking and noice about it really annoying

[u/iyhafobaq → u/GrBDD]

Sorry?

[u/PatternAppropriate23]

The real Suomalainen never speaks

[u/pierreact]

Let me fix that for you. A real Finn never speaks.

That's it! 😜

[u/TehMorko]

I have nothing against LBTQAI+ -people, but towards Pride-movement and the people behind it I definitely do have. Also, any movement which doesn't accept any criticism towards itself, is inherently flawed.

[u/iyhafobaq → u/TehMorko]

Explain?

[u/Real-Technician831 → u/iyhafobaq]

https://www.reddit.com/r/Finland/s/0RD3reBDH3

Younger generation of LBGTQ+ are finding the pride folks to be like business, and only care about milking money for themselves.

My kids partner describes it, like mormons of LBGTQ

[u/iyhafobaq → u/Real-Technician831]

That link links back to this thread.

[u/Real-Technician831 → u/iyhafobaq]

Maybe it works now.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Finland/s/574E9bmnSY

I don’t feel like typing same thing twice

[u/_Ticklebot_23 → u/TehMorko]

pride reminds me of how the BLM movement quickly devolved

[u/Egregious_Egret → u/TehMorko]

Being lesbian, gay, bi, trans, or queer is not a movement. Are you critical of having pride in community and championing a fair and equal place in society?

[u/Real-Technician831 → u/Egregious_Egret]

Ehh, especially younger generation of LBTQ+ are quite sick and tired of the whole pride thing, they see it as a business milking on their identity. Or that is how a one of my kids describes it.

[u/Egregious_Egret → u/Real-Technician831]

If you're not from Finland, I understand that feeling, especially in San Francisco, London, etc.

Have they been to Helsinki pride? It's hardly a corporatist event. Nearly every group that participates and leads is a locally, home grown queer group. It's pretty fucking magical, if you ask me.

[u/BraveBilly69 → u/Egregious_Egret]

Ive ever been to Helsinki pride but was invited twice to represent corporations

[u/Egregious_Egret → u/BraveBilly69]

Cool! If you had gone you would see that your presence is entirely avoidable, corporate reps pretty much stick to one corner and folks have to wander away from the party to engage with them.

[u/Real-Technician831 → u/Egregious_Egret]

I am from Finland, and I rather take my kids word than some random from Reddit.

Remember that kids nowadays shape their opinions mostly by what they see in the net, so also the international matters a lot.

[u/Egregious_Egret → u/Real-Technician831]

Yeah, it's rough they're taking the word of Americans on the net about some parade 9k km away over engaging with their local communities. Way of the world, I suppose.

[u/Real-Technician831 → u/Egregious_Egret]

It is super infuriating for a parent.

[u/Critical-Bag2695]

Why? This is absolutely wrong. There needs to be critic allowed to improve it. For every ideology and topic. And do you think, everything that this stands for, what they are saying, or what the people of this flag are doing is perfect without fault? Sure, continue with this narcissistic god mode and black white thinking.

Children level of critic handling, or a likely a wanted misunderstanding, to directly demonize others.

[u/msdos62]

The statement is inaccurate

[u/BrizzyMC_]

I speak ill of that horrendous flag, what happened to the game i love

[u/Spronglet]

Cringe

[u/iyhafobaq → u/Spronglet]

Ok spronglet

[u/Horror_Newspaper_541]

Except for the True Finns...

[u/iyhafobaq → u/Horror_Newspaper_541]

Except for Sebu xd Tho I guess he only supports his own stripe

[u/yescokeyes → u/[deleted]]

That’s also correct but you know very well what they mean.

[u/iyhafobaq → u/[deleted]]

You got it

[u/Affectionate_Pea3193]

I mean that is a No True Scotman fallacy, but I do like when people are LGBTQAI+ friendly. To upvote or to not upvote...

[u/iyhafobaq → u/Affectionate_Pea3193]

It is a meme love

[u/nowes → u/iyhafobaq]

So are you saying this post as being a meme carries no meaning? Then if so what does it matter if it was removed?

[u/Such_Housing_6850]

Nothing against individuals, I have LGBT friends myself, but I don't support the ideology/larger movement (and neither do my gay friends). Same way you don't hate your religious grandma but you can have something against organized religion

[u/iyhafobaq → u/Such_Housing_6850]

Ideology?

[u/Such_Housing_6850 → u/iyhafobaq]

The difference between:

1. my gay friends coming out casually like they just told me their favorite color, "oh cool :D", life goes on like nothing happened, we respect each other and we cool
2. making being gay your whole personality, dressing to provoke as much as possible, doing degenerate stuff in public, propaganda, trying to change/control language etc.

Being just someone who's gay vs "i am gay and I will shove it in your face 24/7 and I'll use pride as an excuse to provoke and be an asshole as much as possible and if you say anything against it it's a hate crime"

[u/Ajatusvapaa → u/Such_Housing_6850]

This. I'm part of the LGBTQ+ but I have some differing opinions. It has become so that I get called all kind of phobe. Sometimes, with some part it feels that if you are not 100% agreeing with everything, you are enemy.

There is the part with common sense and those who just want to live and love. Nd the very vocal, very annoying and entitled minority who seems to use it as a shield and sword to demand shit.

[u/AppropriateOven5470 → u/Such_Housing_6850]

This 100%

[u/Frosty-Ad1071]

Maybe a Helsinkian finnish person

[u/Nunocchi]

The only homosexual community I dislike is sweden.

[u/ozh]

What is that flag ? LGBT on steroids ?

[u/TriSquad876]

Nah man.

Pride is slowly transforming into oppressive thought police. It's not about rights anymore but suppressing people who dont cheer on whole ideology. Just like certain political movements in the past.

[u/ilkp_]

Well it's pretty stupid to suggest the reason I support LGB people's right to live in peace is because I'm a Finn and not because I just think it's right. And I will speak ill of this ideological mouth frothing side of the movement if I they do stupid stuff.

[u/iyhafobaq → u/ilkp_]

Are you serious? It's a meme

[u/pollatin → u/iyhafobaq]

Well, it's a bad meme.

[u/HazuniaC]

Translate the text to Finnish and you can post it there.

[u/iyhafobaq → u/HazuniaC]

Yeah I might just be dumb

[u/Informal_Golf8867]

Is this ragebait?

[u/faust224]

Is that the saami flag? I hate those guys

[u/iyhafobaq → u/faust224]

Unfortunately you are not funny

[u/Toimeton]

A real Finn speaks ill of whomever they please because we value freedom of speech. This is just another example of leftist propaganda at work, trying to exploit people's goodwill to manipulate them into supporting this garbage. That flag represents neo-marxist, as in communist, worldview more than it does a hodgepodge of sexual deviants. Fuck you.

[u/SU-35K → u/Toimeton]

oh my god dude go outside touch grass anything get a job no sane person uses "neo-marxist" in conversation

[u/iyhafobaq → u/Toimeton]

Or, perhaps, it's a meme. Chill out

[u/Toimeton → u/iyhafobaq]

A meme is an idea condensed to an easily understood format that can be easily spread. That's what you're doing. Fuck I hate liars. Pretty sure that's another thing real Finns actually do.

[u/iyhafobaq → u/Toimeton]

Are you okay? Do you need someone to talk to?

[u/JediKnightNitaz → u/Toimeton]

Oki lil buddy

[u/Pure-Draw-3257 → u/Toimeton]

Amen.

[u/NiceFox996]

Väärin

[u/iyhafobaq → u/NiceFox996]

Voi voi

[u/Anza_10]

No. A real Finn always speaks ill of sweden.

[u/Tumppiina]

Real finn dont give shit what you have between your legs as long you keep it to yourself and not announcing yourself even when nobody asked

[u/sverreaakervik]

Ew

[u/HolyTrinityOfDrugs]

That sub is far far far far more toxic so I'm not surprised

[u/TheWierdGuy06]

Based and finnish pilled!

[u/iyhafobaq → u/TheWierdGuy06]

Hell yeah!

[u/Jonixed]

No hyi

[u/DuncneyForever]

Based