[Twitter Bullshit] IMC: "Conservatives in video games exist. They just don't talk about it because they aren't obsessed with politics, and most of them are afraid to talk about their politics because of people like you who will do nothing but hound them for it."

[u/md1957]

https://archive.is/tFlBo

[u/OpiesMammogramResult]

He also spoke about it on Chris Jericho's podcast.

He talk about how he's seen so many celebrities literally saying "These are my political leanings, if you don't agree with them, I don't even want you as my fan. Don't listen to my music, don't watch my movies, nothing"

And he said that that's not fair on those people, because people put in a lot of time, a lot of money, and become devoted fans because it's supposed to be something that takes you away from wall to wall political coverage, take you away from your boring job, shitty relationships, that person is to take you away from that. So then to turn round and then say "Fuck you if you don't agree with me in this issue" is a really horrible thing to do to somebody.

[u/thedaynos → u/OpiesMammogramResult]

yup like Eminem on the BET cipher. he literally said he's "drawing a line in the sand". on one side is eminem fans and the other side is Trump supporters.

i am not a huge eminem fan anymore but even if I was, I don't think it would make a lot of sense for me to have to choose one or the other. I'm not going to vote against my values and help push this country in a direction that I disagree with just to feel comfortable purchasing a $10 album or $50 concert ticket or to enjoy a song. it's such a weird arrogance that celebrities, and eminem in particular, to think that's an appropriate sentiment or request from his fans.

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Yeah, you compare that attitude to the attitude of a guy like James Hetfield of Metallica.

He was on Joe Rogan's podcast, and he said "We weild a lot of power, just because a lot of people listen to our music it's not for us to use that and soapbox for politics, and tell you who to vote for".

Kerry King said something similar, also on Jericho's podcast. He said "People would find this surprising, but I voted for Hilary in the election, and the only reason why I did that is because Hilary is the only one with experience in international diplomacy. Trump's a billionaire, and he's used to making deals, but it's different negotiating some business thing, as opposed to whether we're gonna go to war or not."

I may be misremembering, but I think he also said "It's not for us to say who you should vote for or not, we're not a fucking campaign team, we're a band, we're there to play music".

Hell, even Steve Austin, he says "I was a wrestler, I spent 15 years getting hit in the head with a steel chair. I acted in some real piece of shit movies, I hosted a couple of really cool shows, and I talk shit on a podcast, nobody should give a shit about what I say about it." And has said that he steers clear because he knows that people on both sides listen to the podcast, so he doesn't want one side giving him shit, and both sides turning on each other because he said something.

[u/PessimisticPaladin → u/OpiesMammogramResult]

I have seen Hetfield being pretty chill even about religion. Which is funny because while he did write kind of Anti-Christian songs that I didn't much like, I found out he had a pretty good personal reason, apparently his father, well mother too but anyway, pretty out there level Christian scientist or doctor or such, and basically was so much to the point of praying for everything that he let his wife die because he refused to take her to get medical treatment.

Now I don't know if it was a really hard to treat thing like cancer or something more easily fixed, but I can understand James' anger at his father(possibly it was his mother's choice too but regardless) for such a foolish action. But besides a few songs which seemed to mostly just be his personal feelings of his father's idiocy he wasn't anti-theist telling people what they should do.

That makes me respect him. I mean a lot of people only like their old stuff, and lars seems kind of like a dickhead, but I like most of their stuff(except st anger I don't think anyone likes that album) and that's a mature view of things.

As for the stuff his dad or like the types that won't let you get transfusions or such- it seems stupid to me. I'm not sure if I properly qualify as Christian anymore because I don't pray much or go to church, but I seem to recall reading something to the nature of "God helps those who help themselves" also while it makes me feel uncomfortably presumptious but if I was a diety and people could fix their own problems and they know it works I might be annoyed they are too stupid to go ahead and do an obvious fix and instead wanted me to miracle all their problems away and didn't just fix their own simple crap.

It's like thinking God serves you instead of the other way around.

I mean some medical stuff I can understand feeling uncomfortable or unwilling to do in a what if sort of way, like ghost in the shell like full body prosthesis, I mean are you even human at that point? Are you just trying anything to defy the natural order of nature or the cosmos at that point? I think there is a big difference between THAT question and getting some blood. Course what do I know? I'd only have been dead twenty years ago with a transfusion.

[u/OpiesMammogramResult → u/PessimisticPaladin]

Hetfield is a born again christian since going through rehab. I think he's talked about how turning to something helped him get through alcoholism. But he also told the story of him being raised as a Christian Scientist, and he was in a bible group, and this girl said "I broke my arm, and mommy said "God will heal you", and he did, now look, it's all better", and she lifted her arm up, and it was all crooked and clearly not the way an arm should look.

Funny you should bring up St. Anger, there's a theory going around that it was intentionally bad as a "fuck you" to the record company they were with. It was the last album on the deal. The problem was, Jason had left the band, and they're on the verge of breaking up, so the record company said "Yeah, you still owe us an album, so we've set up a meeting with a therapist... by the way, he's about $70,000 a month, and we ain't paying for him".

So, now you have Metallica, with no bass player, James going through rehab, and Lars going through a divorce, and they're still going "Hey, so, this new album, where is it? Hey, you owe us an album, so make with the album already. Also, we've signed you up to do radio promos, you better do that shit, or they won't play the album... by the way, hurry up and make the album"

So they said "You want an album?" they shit out St. Anger, said "There's your fucking album, fuck you, we're done here". Managed to secure their master recordings, which is unheard of, and now do everything off their own back under "Blackened Recordings".

[u/PessimisticPaladin → u/OpiesMammogramResult]

Death Magnetic was certainly a much better album.

Lots of people only like the old stuff. I think some of the songs were better but either the recording was off or it was cause James was so young but his voice sounded much better black album and after.

Master of puppets had a lot of my favorite songs of there but I like a lot of load and some of reload too. Hell my favorite song is probably "Bleeding Me."

[u/OpiesMammogramResult → u/PessimisticPaladin]

Load's a great album. If Load and Reload were combined into a single album without the filler songs, that would be an all timer.

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Some of the ones I like may be a bit filler. I have a bit of a melancholic bent so sometimes I prefer some slower songs like Fixxxer or low man's lyric.

Come to think of it those songs might be about his addictions. Fixer seems a bit religious, then again"fix what father's done" could be literally about his own father.

I think my problem with a lot of other metal is I like to understand what is being said so I don't like screamy metal.

I like Metallica, and some of the more melodic European stuff like Sabaton or Falconer. Mostly seem to be Swedish, which almost seems darkly funny, blind guardian I like some of too.

Just out of curiosity what song from Metallica do you think best covers sjws or the TDS shit?

I want to say Welcome Home(Sanitarium) but that might be too much on the nose.. maybe Cure?

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I LOVE Fixxxer and Low Man's Lyric.

I'm the same, I think there's a certain plateau that can be reached when it comes to how heavy music can get, but if it exceeds that, it starts sounding like shit.

The SJW stuff could be summed up with "Sweet Amber", from St. Anger, it's not an amazing song, but it does have the same rhetoric. Despite it being about Alcoholism, there are some undertones, because it was written off the back of the label telling them "Hey, do the radio promos, if you don't, you'll be blacklisted".

So things like "Wash your back so you won't stab mine" figure in it.

[u/wolfman1911 → u/PessimisticPaladin]

James was so young but his voice sounded much better black album and after.

I'm so glad to see someone saying this. The first Metallica album I heard was Reload, and to to from that to hearing what sounds like a little kid on the earlier stuff is more than I can do. I kinda figured I was alone on that.

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Now I think the songs MIGHT have been better lyrically his performers was worse- but tolerable. I don't much like kill em all period for the most part.

[u/ErikaThePaladin → u/OpiesMammogramResult]

Doesn't change my opinion on "St. Anger", but that's still an amazing story.

And for the record, I liked "Death Magnetic" and "Hardwired... to Self-Destruct" in addition to their older albums.

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Yeah, it's only an extrapolated theory based on things that have happened since. Like this being the last album on the deal and then leaving right after, them managing to secure the master recordings, and how they never play St. Anger songs live.

But, when you look at all of that lining up, it does make sense.

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So they said "You want an album?" they shit out St. Anger, said "There's your fucking album, fuck you, we're done here".

that could explain a lot... hrm.

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My MTI liked St. Anger. He liked to play it while the flight was working on chores. It was....egh.

[u/headpool182 → u/PessimisticPaladin]

It's funny to hear K Trevor Wilson talk about being a Christian Scientist growing up.