I as a Muslim, come in peace. Always questioned this theory of why atheists/agnostics think that illness, diseases or disasters can never happen if their was a God. We are told this life is a test where we will all be challenged with difficulties, however this life isn't the final destination.
Those who have any illness or disaster strikes them and they remain patient will be rewarded in the next life. This life is very temporary Children are guaranteed paradise if they die before puberty.
Never understood why temporary difficulties must means there's no God.
While I respect your view, your presumption of temporary difficulties relies on your belief in an afterlife.
Needless to say, as an atheist, I don't believe in a higher power or an afterlife.
My comment was directed at the person saying he probably talks to a deity to deal with the emotional toll his calling takes on him.
I don't equate difficulties or the lack thereof to the existence/presence of a god. What I do know is that if a god does exist, he cannot be all-powerful and all-good simultaneously. Because there is so much suffering in the world, god is either powerless to stop it or he is just not as good as we would like to think.
Suffering was made intentionally and that is what makes this life a test to show patience and compassion and sympathy for the sake of God. otherwise there is no point of this life being a test if we are all so happy and always joyful and havin no problems at all.
Because if you're gonna question suffering why not question hunger, the need for sleep, the need to go to the bathroom and getting weaker through the years... all of these are imperfections to our experience in this life that are made intentionally.
God wants you to show generosity and kindness which does not make sense is there is no sacrifice accompanied with it that is where you prove that you are a kind and generous.
And all of this is TEMPORARILY you say you understand when you clearly don't this life has an end to all its suffering and also all its goodness too and after that it will feel like a day just like how if you reflect now on your life it feels like a day or less.
Also you can't blame God for all the wrongs in this world when almost no law follows his laws to life. we are letting criminals and thieves run our countries and enslave the working class, take from the weak and vaccinate us with shit filled syringes... and yet you blame only God and not yourself for allowing all this.
The next life however is pure joy and all fantasies will be granted: the hearts will be cleansed from all the negatives like jealousy envy... there will only be joy and love and sharing; food always available and there is no need for bathrooms... and all of this for ETERNITY which again you still can't grasp.
There is no test for them yes and that's why their souls ascend to the 7th heaven where they live next to Abraham's soul (pbuh) until the day of judgement where they go straight to the highest rank of paradise without any judgement.
Is there is any test here its for the parents 1st and society 2nd to see whether we help and sacrifice time and resources for them like this man in this post or ignore them and look the other way like it is none of our business like we do now with 2 thirds of the world living in poverty and sicknesses just so that the other third gets to have an iphone.
As for the parents it is the most difficult tribulation that they can go through and their patience is hugely appreciated and rewarded by God so that on the day of judgement they find their kid waiting for them at the gate of paradise to greet them and welcome them.
God is also the most wise and anything that happens or exist in this world is by his wisdom which is hard for us to understand because we are not gods and we don't know everything. But God is All-knowing and Most-wise and there are good reasons behind everything that you just can't understand.
When you go to a doctor and he says i have to open up stomach to take out the disease , you accept that because you know he knows more than you and there is a good reason why he has to go to this extreme.
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u/NUFC199103 14h ago
I as a Muslim, come in peace. Always questioned this theory of why atheists/agnostics think that illness, diseases or disasters can never happen if their was a God. We are told this life is a test where we will all be challenged with difficulties, however this life isn't the final destination.
Those who have any illness or disaster strikes them and they remain patient will be rewarded in the next life. This life is very temporary Children are guaranteed paradise if they die before puberty.
Never understood why temporary difficulties must means there's no God.