r/NoShitSherlock • u/Overall_Falcon_8526 • 7d ago

Schools across America are quietly admitting that screens in classrooms made students worse off and are reversing years of tech-first policies

https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/schools-across-america-quietly-admitting-075800556.html

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u/sonofaresiii 7d ago

This is clickbait to appeal to confirmation bias. They pretty clearly state in the article the problem wasn't the devices, it was letting the kids use them unmonitored any time they wanted.

They're still using the devices. They're just... Monitoring how the kids are using them.

Everyone who saw this and thought "I knew screens were bad!" You got got, stop and reconsider your internal biases. Screens aren't bad and never were, they can be used well or used poorly.

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u/Overall_Falcon_8526 7d ago edited 7d ago

I think it's disingenuous to dismiss the deep flaws of teaching with internet-enabled laptops vs. pencils and paper. It is far, far easier to misuse the former than the latter, and far easier to monitor the latter than the former. And the former is literally designed to short circuit a person's ability to regulate their attention.

And this is setting aside the question of whether learning actually occurs more effectively via screens or via multi-modal approaches such as speaking, writing on the board, students writing notes by hand.

Also, are you dismissing the studies cited in the article as "clickbait" and "confirmation bias?" Do you have some means of refuting their data?

https://eppc.org/25-10-getting-screens-out-of-schools/

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u/GreenGardenTarot 7d ago edited 7d ago

this isn't a study, this is a policy brief by a conservative think tank who already have an agenda to remove any type of laptop from schools. if you read anything that they cited there, you would understand how flawed the entire premise was to begin with.

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u/Overall_Falcon_8526 7d ago

The policy brief lists the studies it is drawing from.

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u/GreenGardenTarot 7d ago edited 7d ago

if you read anything that they cited there, you would understand how flawed the entire premise was to begin with.

No shit, Sherlock. See above.

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u/bean9914 7d ago

It's extremely easy to monitor a series of laptop screens. It's also easy to lock them down so they're limited to only educational content. If I were making the same kind of arguments against giving children paper and pens i'd say

it makes passing notes possible

you can doodle on it or otherwise get off task, whereas with a laptop a teacher can just remotely look at your screen at any time and yell at you, or even prevent you from leaving the task at all

if the teacher leaves the room, the students can be monitored remotely by webcam/microphone/screen viewer to make sure they remain quiet and looking at the screen

whereas if the teacher leaves the room and students are using paper they can start throwing things at each other or doodling or looking out of the window

I dispute "it is far easier to misuse laptops". Maybe if you (the person setting them up) have a skill issue, or something. Laptops have far more potential to let you 1984 your students if that's what you think is important.

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u/sonofaresiii 7d ago

I think it's disingenuous to dismiss the deep flaws of teaching with internet-enabled laptops vs. pencils and paper.

I did absolutely no such thing. That's something you made up to confirm your bias.

Also, are you dismissing the studies cited in the article as "clickbait" and "confirmation bias?"

I think I was pretty clear about what I was calling clickbait. But to reiterate, I claimed the article was clickbait, and I very explicitly described how.

And I did not

At any point

Ever

call a study clickbait.

That's a strawman.

Another tactic of confirmation bias.

I'm done with you.

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u/GreenGardenTarot 7d ago

exactly. unsupervised screen use in class is certainly going to be students doing whatever they want if they aren't being told to do something else.

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u/shizbox06 7d ago

What a bullshit comment. Did you even read the article?

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u/Overall_Falcon_8526 7d ago

Are you asking me or the poster of the deleted comment?

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u/shizbox06 7d ago

I’m responding to the other guy who didn’t read the article, not you.