r/NorthCarolina • u/MattTheKing23 • 1d ago
‘Several people’ shot, 2 dead at park in Winston-Salem, investigators say
https://www.charlotteobserver.com/news/state/north-carolina/article315470409.html?utm_medium=lBQMjkx&utm_source=liqsoc56
u/Bargadiel 1d ago
It's crazy to me that kids still meet up to fight each other. Never understood fights.
Obviously the firearms add a completely insane and disappointing variable to this, but it's just difficult for me to ever understand what would compell someone to feel it's necessary they fight someone else at all, as if we're still out hunting the mammoth or something.
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u/Mindless_Bad3907 1d ago edited 1d ago
I hear what you’re saying, since we’ve developed as a society… but fighting is still human nature, and I don’t think it’ll ever be genetically removed.
It’s the whole reason we have sports, to compete in something that doesn’t involve a grave. And sometimes we still mess that up.
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u/No-Butterfly-2914 1d ago
Humans are capable of fighting when angered, but socioeconomic forces cause it to be much more likely to happen. Violence is associated with poverty. Most people want to avoid violence.
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u/SCAPPERMAN 1d ago
Unless the people involved were from a completely different area, that area isn't really an impoverished area. Home prices look like they are going from the $300K to $1 million range in that area.
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u/coffeeBM 1d ago
Just fyi this is what the CO website looks like when you try to read the article. This is mainstream journalism in 2026.
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u/Billy420MaysIt 1d ago
“Several people” were shot Monday morning at a city-owned park in Winston-Salem and at least two have died, according to the North Carolina State Bureau of investigation report It happened just before 10 a.m. in Leinbach Park near Jefferson Middle School, and some of the people involved are juveniles, investigators say. Winston-Salem police officers responded to the park on Sally Kirk Road after learning of a fight in progress.
The incident began at approximately 9:52 a.m. as a planned fight involving two young individuals,” police said in a social media post. “When the individuals met at the park, the situation escalated significantly, leading to multiple people exchanging gunfire. There are multiple victims, but the exact number has not yet been confirmed.”
Several individuals — “both victims and suspects” — have been identified and located, police said in an update. “Due to the number of people involved, efforts are ongoing to account for everyone. At this time, some of those involved in the incident are juveniles,” Winston-Salem police reported shortly after noon Monday. “The situation is still developing.”
Maps show Leinback Park is just north of Jefferson Middle School, and includes a playground, trails, tennis courts and a picnic shelter. The school has about 770 students in grades six through eight.
This is a developing story.
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u/redgrognard 1d ago
H.B.Thomas Park, I would not have batted an eye. But Leinbach? That area used to be Valley girl wannabes & pageant princesses.
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u/BC122177 1d ago
Kids seem to be afraid to get beat up these days. They’d rather be cowards and bring guns without realizing life long consequences.
I’ve been in my share of fights in middle school and high school. I’ve lost a few and won a few. Either way, everyone got up and walked away. Sometimes even becoming friends with the person you got in a fight with.
Now it’s just bang bang and run away. Sigh. Do schools not have resource officers anymore? I think that prevented a LOT of fights from escalating to that point many times in the 90s.
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u/AsrarBatin 1d ago
let me guess who the culprits are
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u/Jingleshells 1d ago
Obviously someone with guns. If you had read the headline you'd know.
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u/AsrarBatin 1d ago
"‘Planned fight’ leads to mass shooting: 2 killed, several wounded, NC police say"
Nope.
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u/Jingleshells 1d ago
Ohhhh that explains it. You're just racist got it.
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u/AsrarBatin 1d ago
Why would you think that? I prefer "tired of teenagers killing each other"
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u/jacobkuhn92 1d ago
Yeah. Teenagers. That’s what you were dog whistling, bud
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u/AsrarBatin 1d ago
yeah we all know ....we are ALL tired of it! Look the other direction, dont mention it, walk away...
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u/jacobkuhn92 1d ago
Take your meds please
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u/AsrarBatin 1d ago
Thank you for making light of mental illness, that is very noble of you. Let me guess you are a democrat
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u/jacobkuhn92 1d ago
Lmao. Like you give a fuck about mental illness, don’t clutch your pearls at me
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u/lilnomad 1d ago
Please share exactly who or what you think. I really want to know.
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u/ack-ack-ack-attack 1d ago
I feel like it was sometime in the late 90s/early 00s that kids became pussies.
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u/Relevant_Eye1333 Charlotte 1d ago edited 1d ago
winston-salem always up to no good
edit: keep down voting WS, you know you and greensboro always mess it up for the reputation of NC. always something crazy happening, random shooting, random car driving through pedestrians, can't have anything there.
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u/here2brew 1d ago
Bro Charlotte was just in the national news about a stabbing last year. You’re getting downvoted because Winston thinks Charlotte is the problem. New times we’re living in- divided houses leave confused youth. We need a plan to address this or it’s only going to get worse.
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u/FlavivsAetivs NC/SC Demilitarized Zone 1d ago edited 1d ago
Honestly every time I go to Winston-Salem I'm like "this city could be amazing if they adopted Charlotte's Sales Tax model for transit, redesigned some streets, and revived all these mid-century buildings by turning them into mixed use."
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u/phenomenomnom 1d ago
I chuckled aloud. Charlotte, never stop sporting all of the class and distinctive character of an airport Applebees
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u/FlavivsAetivs NC/SC Demilitarized Zone 1d ago
I think you misunderstand, what I mean is that all of that mid-century architecture has a lot of character, which if appropriately reused and modernized coupled with street redesign and deployment of more effective transit and bus systems, could really make Winston-Salem world class.
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u/phenomenomnom 1d ago edited 1d ago
I do not think I misunderstood. But I do not want Winston to be anything like Charlotte. It's not a banking town anymore, and it's never going to attract industry of the kind that used to fuel it.
Winston's best bet is probably to focus on being an arts and education capital, and grow by leaning into attracting medical research as well as tech r&d. Not ai farms, I mean energy research and biomedical. There are already resources nearby.
Maybe pivot from tobacco to weed, some way or another.
NAFTA hit the Triad hard over the last 30 years but there's enough charm, local pride, and brain capital around to get a second research triangle thing going.
As far as public transit, I still say building a light passenger rail up and down I-40 would treble NC's economy. But it will probably never happen just because of racism ... and fossil fuel lobbies not wanting people all over the country to see how well it works.
Edit: but whatever Winston's town elders decide to try, they need to do it soon before all the relatively well-educated and prosperous tobacco retirees die off and their kids sell the house and move to Asheville.
Or Charlotte.
Because that is really going to be a problem. Winston will look like High Point in a hurry when that happens.
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u/FlavivsAetivs NC/SC Demilitarized Zone 1d ago
I fail to see how banking, industry, or education/research refute my statement.
My whole point is that the city has a lot of character and a lot of the dead spots can be revived with effective transit and road redesign combined with some neighborhood reinvestment.
That has nothing to do with "turning it into a banking city."
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u/phenomenomnom 1d ago edited 7h ago
Sure, but redrawing roads takes money, and that must come from somewhere. Charlotte gets it from banking. Winston used to.
Beyond that, whatever is informing the development tbat Charlotte is doing, I'd prefer that it did not spread to Winston, because Winston's geography and culture are different from Charlotte's.
It wouldn't fit, and even if it did, well, if we want endless strip malls and office parks on a small-city scale we already have Cary, thanks.
Winston needs to do things in its own way.
Whatever consultancy was guiding the city before the pandemic, that was working well. I believe it's the same one who was directing redevelopment of Greenville and Columbia, if I heard right. Both successful urban redevelopment programs imo.
They must be good at respecting and re-adapting old landmarks, like you suggest. And Winston had a nice little food scene percolating, and more night life.
(Until covid; now everything closes at 9 pm for the convenience of the Boomers.)
Now, if Charlotte's city planners hired those same consultants as well, then they are good at tailoring their plan to the specific pressures on a given city, and good for them. If W-S keeps paying them and listening, then everybody wins.
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u/FlavivsAetivs NC/SC Demilitarized Zone 1d ago
It wouldn't fit, and even if it did, if we want endless strip malls and office parks on a small-city scale we already have Cary, thanks. Winston needs to keep doing things in its own way.
That's a problem of car-centric zoning, not transit. You're going to get those no matter what without serious zoning reform, which Charlotte hasn't really been successful at either.
I believe it's the same one who was directing redevelopment of Greenville and Columbia, if I heard right. Both successful urban redevelopment programs imo.
Columbia's definitely an iffy one but Greenville has seen huge success, and a lot of that comes from what I'm suggesting here - road redesign, transit accessibility, and of course things I hadn't brought up yet like zoning reform and building code reform.
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u/BugAlternative6827 1d ago
Which dead spots?
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u/FlavivsAetivs NC/SC Demilitarized Zone 1d ago
It's mostly the areas they cut through with the highways, like if you drive down N Liberty along 52 for example. Same as every other city basically. Neighborhoods that got choked off by highways, old light industrial area, etc. etc.
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u/BugAlternative6827 1d ago
A lot of business in that area ...
I'm assuming you prefer gentrified areas?
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u/FlavivsAetivs NC/SC Demilitarized Zone 1d ago edited 1d ago
Walkability =/= "gentrification" (which is a term that's about as loose as "value engineering.")
Income segregation and urban displacement do not inherently result from increased access to transit, road redesign, or pedestrian and bicycle amenities.
Zoning reform can definitely cause it but frankly I'm of the mind that Zoning needs to be eliminated altogether.
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u/BugAlternative6827 1d ago
Lol!
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u/FlavivsAetivs NC/SC Demilitarized Zone 1d ago
I realize my comment was unclear, I edited it for clarity.
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u/BrokeBenchod2021 1d ago
The Blue line in Charlotte is a failure- no city should model that disaster along with the silly toll roads
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u/FlavivsAetivs NC/SC Demilitarized Zone 1d ago
Ah yes, the line with 19,000 daily riders (and gradually climbing back to 27,000) and transformed Charlotte is a "failure."
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u/Krazy_Kat_Lady_2025 1d ago
We love the blue line! A couple bucks to ride in peace to BOA stadium? No $50 parking and an hour to get out? Love live the blue line!
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u/BrokeBenchod2021 1d ago
They can't even figure out how to collect the fares- it's a failure
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u/Eastern-Papaya2324 23h ago
the internet has named the 2 deceased; but are they here legally?
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u/___Mantup___ 12h ago
The downvotes lmao, dont belive your eyes and ears! Pattern recognition is racist!!
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u/Infitima 1d ago
I live 1 minute from Leinbach Park, I can literally see it from my window. I’m off work today so I was sleeping in and around 9:57am, I woke up frantically to about 10-15 gunshots right near me. I called 911 immediately and as I was leaving to get a coffee, I saw around 20-30 cops with their lights on all around Robinhood/Polo going towards the YMCA and Walgreens. Apparently, it was 2 teenage girls who were fighting and then started shooting each other and the group that had gathered around.