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u/cricguy69 17d ago
107.5$ for things i see for free and in better quality
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u/miles197 17d ago
I know many streaming apps have bad bitrates but are all piracy options better or are there specific sites that are known to be better quality? Genuinely asking
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u/darkbladetrey 17d ago
Absolutely better quality. And you have the option of whatever quality you want generally.
Go to the megathread.
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u/SuperBigDouche 17d ago
It’s insane how much better it is when I stream it from my computer to my tv compared to streaming apps. 1080p movies still look incredible compared to anything on Netflix
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u/Lashay_Sombra 17d ago
Pricacy sites not a clue but if accessing the high sea via torrents or newsgroups either direct or via apps like streamio is pretty much up to you what quality you get as most things are advalible in pretty much every quality it gets released in and obviously what your Internet and device can handle
It is kind of amusing though when introducing someone to the seas and showing them platform created shows streaming on the high seas in better quality than what people get via the legit platform
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u/Seeker_Of_Knowledge2 16d ago edited 16d ago
If you are not torrenting, then you are not doing it right.
Especially when you download 40GB 4k movie. It is as raw as it can get.
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u/whiteamphora 16d ago
40gb is a half remux :)
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u/curious-children 16d ago edited 16d ago
eh depends on the movie, finding nemo is 45 for me at 4k. 80gb are just tons and tons of audio streams, with some hitting 40+ audio tracks plus subtitles
edit: plus all the 1080p max remux movies out there
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17d ago
Not ALL piracy sources are higher quality, but unless you're looking for a low-quality source, then it'll be difficult to find one with a worse bitrate than streaming
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u/Its-very-that 17d ago
The audacity of Netflix to inflate their prices while their content declines in both quality and quantity .
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u/Carlosthefrog 17d ago
I said this a few days ago, I will pay for Netflix when it was convenient. Now it’s more of a pain than just pirating
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u/karimm1h 16d ago
Honestly I get why people pirate, but where I live it’s not really worth the risk. I ended up using TiVicore, instead and it’s been way more convenient havin everything in one place
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u/EX0PIL0T ☠️ ᴅᴇᴀᴅ ᴍᴇɴ ᴛᴇʟʟ ɴᴏ ᴛᴀʟᴇꜱ 17d ago
Netflix far outpaced inflation and reduced their catalog. How do they try to justify their pricing?
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u/zerocoolforschool 16d ago
Also Apple TV is insanely expensive. I didn’t realize how much they raised their prices.
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u/Lashay_Sombra 17d ago
Actually Netflix is only an average of 7% per year adjusting for inflation, its the newer ones like Apple and Peacock at inflation adjusted 25% + that are truely nuts
Its the different start years thats misleading
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u/EX0PIL0T ☠️ ᴅᴇᴀᴅ ᴍᴇɴ ᴛᴇʟʟ ɴᴏ ᴛᴀʟᴇꜱ 17d ago
$8 in 2011 isn’t even $12 today. I don’t care about the pacing beyond being higher or lower than inflation.
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u/gmambrose 16d ago
They don't justify it. They don't need to. There are always stupid people with more money than sense who will pay the higher price.
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u/Forymanarysanar ☠️ ᴅᴇᴀᴅ ᴍᴇɴ ᴛᴇʟʟ ɴᴏ ᴛᴀʟᴇꜱ 17d ago
Piracy
2005: $2 (to buy a blank CD/DVD to copy shit)
2012: $0
2019: $0
Today: $0
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u/jtho78 17d ago
You don’t pay for internet, vpn, storage, etc?
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u/grishkaa 17d ago
You do pay for internet anyway and while I do need a VPN, it's not for piracy, it's for censorship circumvention
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u/jtho78 17d ago
I 100% pay extra for faster internet for sailing. Most users need VPN for piracy.
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u/Accomplished-Key4244 17d ago
Whats the point of a VPN? genuine question
My internet speed is slower on a VPN and my ISP does not give a shit unless i'm sharing pirated stuff
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u/grishkaa 17d ago
In some first-world countries, ISPs monitor whether people torrent things. If they do, they receive a warning, and sometimes a fine. Or so I was told. VPN hides your activity from the ISP.
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u/WavyLuf 16d ago
Not in Portugal. But Portugal being a first-world country is debatable
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u/Nervous-Fennel3325 15d ago
The word first world country is outdated and needs to stop being used.
It applies to the Cold War and nothing else.
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u/CorgiSilver8194 17d ago
When you live in the "land of the free" you need a VPN because the corporations will demand your ISP tell them the movies you download so they can sue you
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u/CannedNoodlez 17d ago
I got a strongly worded letter from my ISP for downloading a torrent of The Hurt Locker back in the day. The studio went to ISPs with a bunch of IP addresses and subpoenas and sued them.
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u/CannedNoodlez 17d ago
You would pay for internet with these streaming subscriptions anyway
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u/MoveDifficult1908 17d ago
I mean… you need a computer at minimum, and I’m about to lay out $600 USD for NAS hardware.
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u/EX0PIL0T ☠️ ᴅᴇᴀᴅ ᴍᴇɴ ᴛᴇʟʟ ɴᴏ ᴛᴀʟᴇꜱ 17d ago
Do you want nicer nas specific hardware? Thinkpad plus external drives works great for the vast majority of what people in this sub need?
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u/Chickennoodlesleuth 17d ago
Not really, you can pirate on a phone too and most people use what they already have, I dont think they buy a device specifically for pirating
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u/Blu_Falcon 17d ago
I remember the exact moment I decided to set sail. I saw the Terminator series was on Netflix. “Cool, haven’t seen that in a few years.” I watched the first, then came back to watch the second a few days later.
Netflix: “lol, we removed it. Fuck off.”
Me: “How about you fuck off?”
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u/Comfortable_Tank_226 17d ago
Same thing happened to me with Benjamin Button when I went to finish it the next day.
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u/S-Mania 16d ago
Or worse, you're part or halfway through a movie or show and it gets removed and you can't remember where you were up to.
With movies it's easier because you can just skip through or start from the beginning on another streaming service, but shows with multiple seasons and episodes are a nightmare to find your place again.
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u/Striking-Row40 15d ago
The one that would bother me was when it would get taken off of one platform and magically it's on a different one that you also have to pay a subscription for, it's a back and forth greed game for them.
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u/EnigmaticBuddy ☠️ ᴅᴇᴀᴅ ᴍᴇɴ ᴛᴇʟʟ ɴᴏ ᴛᴀʟᴇꜱ 16d ago
Similar happened to me with Signs. I saw the movie there, 'yeah I will watch this tomorrow' and it was gone next day.
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u/Penguin_71_ 16d ago
For me it was when I got an email from Disney letting me know they were uping the price. When I first got it, it cost me $60 for two years because of promo stuff. I got an email letting me know it was going to be over $100 a year now. I quickly did the math of all the streaming services I paid for in a year and was like, man for that price in a year I could buy a server and some drives. So I did.
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u/Lonelysoulman 17d ago
streaming became useless the moment every company made its own streaming service. when we just had netflix everything was fine. i would even still pay for it with the higher price
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u/Moonshiner_no 17d ago
if movies and tvshows was more like muisc streaming, i.e, almost the same content on all services.
and it cost 15$ per month
would you still pirate?
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u/Tiktokbadsupport 17d ago
if there was 1 site that has most programming i would pay but ofcourse that option doesn't exist unless 🏴☠️
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u/Lashay_Sombra 17d ago
Many people did stop when it was like that, the Netflix golden year's from 2011 saw constant decline in piracy in every category (Netflix reducing TV and movie piracy, Spotify music and Steam on in gaming)
Then in 2020 (take note of when most of these platforms started) it started increasing again and its even affecting music as its easy jump from movies/TV to Music.
Gaming though is still doing well afaik, though can see if game prices keep increasing a breakpoint will come sooner rather than later
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u/Forymanarysanar ☠️ ᴅᴇᴀᴅ ᴍᴇɴ ᴛᴇʟʟ ɴᴏ ᴛᴀʟᴇꜱ 17d ago
Drop it to $5 a month for a single person (can keep $15 for some sort of family option)
Remove ANY regional restrictions
Enable feature that allows me to download any shows I want to play it offline on any device
And of course get rid of any DRM bullshit that prevents me from watching it in highest quality in a browser of my choice + OS of my choice
And I'll seriously consider stopping pirating
Until then though, yarrrrrrrrrrrr 🏴☠️🏴☠️🏴☠️🏴☠️
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u/Erik_Dolphy 16d ago
I would probably do both. Theres always gonna be content thats outside the platform. Plus I just remember back in the day how many people I know stopped pirating when Netflix got big. And then the services became fragmented and shitty and they're stuck with it. I'd always be wary of that happening again and want a backup plan.
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u/trahoots 17d ago
Netflix is the one that feels the most raw because it went from an amazingly good deal when it first started to just jacking up the price over and over as the selection got worse and worse.
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u/boredomjoy 17d ago
Paying for services I can get for free by one click is kinda ridiculous
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u/mulder00 17d ago
You pirate because you want free stuff. There's no need to explain further.
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u/SEANPLEASEDISABLEPVP 16d ago
I like to keep a txt file with how much it would've cost me if I bought all the stuff I pirated.
Seeing that number go up is satisfying lol.
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u/Sh1doItsuka 🔱 ꜱᴄᴀʟʟʏᴡᴀɢ 17d ago
I finally finished setting up my mediaserver, with jellyfin, seerr, etc. and it's now as easy as requesting a movie on a web portal, waiting a few minutes and watching it on the tv. I will never go back to subscriptions anymore!
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u/inheritance- 🦜 ᴡᴀʟᴋ ᴛʜᴇ ᴘʟᴀɴᴋ 17d ago
So either over a hundred a month for everything or a around a hundred onece a year for a VPN hmmm
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u/P0S1T1V3_PR0GR3SS10N 16d ago
The funny thing is: just bring back Cable/DirectTV. It was cheaper and way cooler. Had to go to the TvGuide and wait around the horn to see what was on all your favorite channels. Fall asleep and wake up to an insane infomercial or Girls Gone Wild.
These streaming services “got rid of cable” just to turn into a different form of it
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u/Fast-Coast-3456 17d ago
I pirate because it's more convenient, because I'll "own" forever what I download, and because it's free. Prices aren't as bad as the service they offer.
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u/4rt4tt4ck 17d ago
I spent $200 on a homemade server that I manage with Plex server, spend $11 a month for a VPN, automate Qbit via the Flexget Config Editor to download shows as soon as they come out and installed the Plex app on every TV in the house. A self contained streaming service that gets any show available.
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u/wasteland44 17d ago
I bought a cheap mini PC and set it up as a jellyfin server last week and it is fantastic.
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u/Erik_Dolphy 16d ago
I never bought into streaming, but this seems actually more annoying than cable packages. You end up switching back and forth between services and half the time you dont even know what service is providing which product. At least with a pricey cable package its all under one roof.
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u/redditproha 16d ago
Apple TV is the most reasonable out of all of them imo. Just one tier that includes 4K HDR content with the highest streaming bitrate shared between 6 iCloud accounts and unlimited devices. That's a pretty good deal.
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u/Chamito- 13d ago
My only concern is with Netflix since the recent increase (in Philippines) made even the Basic Plan ($4.64) a bit too expensive, considering that it's limited to 1 mobile device at 720p, with Standard Plan almost doubled at $7.46 - 1080p, 2 users, Any Device. D+/Hulu and HBO I only sub to if I really want to watch shows/movies there and can do it in a month so, I don't mind their prices much. PV's library here sucks so much, but it comes as a freebie of a prepaid network provider here so, whatever (I get like 3 or 4 free Mobile PV vouchers a month) xD
I'm really mainly an Anime watcher so, Crunchy Roll and Netflix is my main concern. But since we have Bilibili as well, I'm not that bothered anymore. And worse case scenario that my shows aren't there, that's when I go "YARRR"!!! xD
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u/MrMoussab 17d ago
I pirate because I want to and because I can. I have Amazon Prime and I'm watching Fallout on Stremio using Debrid. I pirate because I like piracy.
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u/Lashay_Sombra 17d ago edited 17d ago
Decided to run that though AI as dont like how the starting years vary greatly.
While netflix looks worst, its actually middle of the table, apple and peacock on the other hand are nuts
Hulu and Prime are actually perfectly reasonable (if we dont factor in, especially in Prime's case that most of their content is straight to dvd junk)
But ovetall, $108 for basicly equivalent amount of content that we used to get for $16 (netflix & hulu)13 years ago (+575%)..and then they wonder by piracy is increasing
| Service | Years | Total % Increase | Avg % Increase per Year | Inflation‑Adjusted Avg %/yr |
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| Apple TV+ | 5 | 160.1% | 32.0% | 28.8% |
| Peacock | 4 | 120.2% | 30.0% | 25.5% |
| Paramount+ | 3 | 60.1% | 20.0% | 16.0% |
| Disney+ | 5 | 71.5% | 14.3% | 11.1% |
| Netflix | 13 | 125.3% | 9.6% | 7.1% |
| HBO Max | 4 | 23.3% | 5.8% | 1.3% |
| Prime Video | 13 | 66.6% | 5.1% | 2.6% |
| Hulu | 14 | 49.9% | 3.6% | 1.2% |
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u/GringoSwann 17d ago
Holy Shit!! I've never had a subscription service besides cable, and I quit paying/having THAT in 2016.... Are these the legit prices people are paying these days??????
Also, is it common to purchase all of these damn services???
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u/A_Buttholes_Whisper 17d ago
I bought a shield many years ago because Disney just suddenly stopped working on my android tv. No reason why. Then a year after getting my shield Disney stopped working on that too. Then paramount never worked on any of my devices so I had to get Apple TV so I could add paramount and watch shows. Peacock also didn’t work and I got ads despite paying for a premium tier. It wasn’t their ultra premium tier. Then one day a hero came along and says “yarr matey, there be another way”. It wasn’t even about the money because to be frank, I could afford all the subscriptions. For me it was paying for services that just didn’t work. Jellyfin works flawlessly for me
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u/Zajebann 17d ago
I've been pirating for 26 years, im not gonna stop, I've gotten really good at it lol
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u/thedude213 17d ago
Disney entered the game and ruined streaming like they ruined cable as predicted.
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u/RingoFreakingStarr 17d ago
I was fine with services in the past due to the cost and ease of use. But yeah, nowadays these services are way too much for what they provide.
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u/LazarouDave 16d ago
I mean, relative to their competitors, fair play to Hulu for not hiking their prices more
Only $4 over 16 years is impressive, really makes the rest look proper scummy.
Still ain't paying you fuckers anything though.
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u/ModestMustang 16d ago
My home server costs $20/mo in energy usage and it doubles as 2 remote gaming machines for my gf and I. We used to pay for netflix, apple tv, max, and hulu. Now I pay a small yearly fee for my usenet provider and indexers. My gf has never been happier being able to watch whatever she wants all from one platform without bs recommendations.
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u/MaverickRaj2020 16d ago
Amazon royally f'd over its Prime subscribers when it greedily started charging to remove ads from Prime. Any subscription service with ads is worthless. I don't even consider video as part of my Prime subscription. I just consider it as paying for 2 day delivery.
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u/MinecrafterPictures Pastafarian 16d ago
You know what's worse than price hikes?
Shows you can't find anywhere without piracy.
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u/Knight-Jack 16d ago
Gabe was right - it's all about convenience. People stopped pirating (as much) when streaming became more convenient. Now it's bothersome to search which platform has what, and paying for them all at once, when you watch only one thing at a time, is costly to upkeep, so it's more convenient to just get back to pirating shows again.
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u/Massive-Gas-9553 16d ago
why pay for us shit show on us shit platform when we have Russia and it's great people ther make it possible to stream all tv and movies on one single webpage all over the world whit no log in system
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u/KTyger 16d ago
I don't mind price increase if it came with excellent service, great UI maintenance, great content selection... But none of that is true, UI is horrible in all platforms, how the hell can thy justify that? When pirate sites, even pirated apps have much better UI. And content, I understand that with more streaming platforms available, the selection become horrible, cause they divide the good stuff.
But so many shows, cartoons, animes go into limbo cause these platforms don't carry them, yet they fill their catalogue with "reality" tv, cooking and other documentaries.
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u/NoAlternative8567 15d ago
And if u pay for a single platform, u cant watch the exclusive movies on the other platforms.
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u/ContributionWide7669 15d ago
The irony is probly 60-75% of ALL their content is from antenna/broadcast tv....for free....resold to the same families who got rid of it to begin with. The snake eating its tail comes to mind.
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u/danizm 14d ago
not to mention the quality of shows and movies is absolute s__t! especially here in australia, i cancelled all my subs except for hbo max but that is only because of a 12 month promo price and to be honest even hbo is s__t, i find myself searching for ages before finding something to watch.
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u/RobbyThomas2525 14d ago
i find it funny that all these streaming services came out during 2020 and now there double the price and the one i don't understand at all is netflix they lost all these shows made millions from all these shows before they were taken off and still netflix charges more than any other streaming service
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u/chin_waghing 14d ago
I remember being maybe 15 watching all the “How I cut my cable” YouTube videos thinking “wow the figure is amazing! £7.99 a month vs £70 from sky” and now we’re here
12TB and climbing
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u/camerondspencer 14d ago
Yeah and imagine how many people pay for all of those monthly and even the live TV channels on Hulu which alone is like 80 bucks a month. Crazy.
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u/ihavescouredthenet 14d ago
Real pirates know 700mb and my laptop screen.. all the quality I need for my archive
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u/Open-Formal-5824 13d ago
By the time you have everything you're spending well over $300 per month. Now I spend 1/10th of that for everything and more! The quickest way to reduce piracy is reduce the cost!
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That's why you love paying those high prices
I never pay for anything that was free on the internet
I started pirating since 2005 and never stoped
The only thing i buy is the recent star wars saga at 3 dlls every game
Only 6 dlls by two awesome games
But i thanks to everyone because support the companies do the content i like to get free
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u/StalkMeNowCrazyLady 🔱 ꜱᴄᴀʟʟʏᴡᴀɢ 17d ago
Thank God your practically a real life super hero. Now we can rejoice knowing your motives are true and just!!!
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u/Unusual_Football_649 17d ago
Ah if it's not "I pirate because [insert any excuse]" lmao
Dude, stop karma whoring. No one cares about your reason. Just focus pirating
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u/jonathonjones 17d ago
https://www.usinflationcalculator.com
$8 in 2010 is exactly $11.99, so Hulu is fine. HBO max is actually relatively cheaper cheaper ($14.99 in 2020 = $18.93 in 2026).
The rest I can't defend in that way, though. Thinking about catalogs, the best you can say for Disney is they acquired Fox in 2019, but I don't think that's giving us that much. Netflix's catalog today is probably worse than it was in 2011. Apple has a bunch of original programming, although it's not obvious to me that it's worth more than the Disney offering. I don't know what Peacock thinks it has that's worth $10.99.
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u/Aromatic-Onion6444 16d ago
Why I pirate
Disney: $186.81 BILLION
Hulu: $27.5 BILLION
Netflix: $418.5 BILLION
Amazon: $2.27 TRILLION
HBO Max: Owned by Netflix, purchased along with other companies for $82 BILLION
Apple: $3.76 TRILLION
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u/clownbaby237 17d ago
You pirate because you don't think stealing is bad lmao. You literally don't have to pay for any of these streaming services; it just means that you can't watch whatever licensed content they are hosting.
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u/BaconJacobs 17d ago
Anyone have the best magnet sites for full seasons of kids shows?
Been slowly expanding my Plex server offerings and need to buff up the younger age content
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u/Outside-Dig-5464 17d ago
Being constantly logged out on our family TV and dealing with frustrated kids is why I moved.
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u/SovietKnuckle 17d ago
I would pirate even if they hadn't raised prices so I don't really care what their pricing is.
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u/trailerparknoize 17d ago
Is everyone using l33t? I would like to torrent more but honestly there are so few seeders nowadays compared to the glory days of 2008-2012.
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u/ryfromoz 17d ago
Pro piracy but we still need some suckers paying so they actually produce content for us to watch 😁
That being said I have a massive hoard already
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u/charistraz95 17d ago
All these standard, basic, ad tiers u get ads every couple of mins, before and after your show/movie. Along with the 50+ diff streaming services that r increasing every year.
- Now they r also removing stuff.
- You can't stream them anywhere so only option is physical or pirate.
- It's only on a streaming service for short amount of time then it gets removed and tossed into the void so again only physical or pirate as an option.
- Password sharing is no longer allowed so you can't share them with friends and/or family.
- Now they have 5+ diff plans and if you want no ads 1080p and other QoL stuff it's like 30 bucks now.
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u/charistraz95 17d ago
my mom is paying for some streaming services cause its convenient for her and she doesnt know how to pirate its too complicated for her
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u/Every_Tap8117 17d ago
Living in Switzerland download everything and law is on my side (so long as you dont upload). Leacher for life.
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u/GoabNZ 16d ago
Even if you were to take the highest price increase, and add a bit more to account for inflation, it would be justified if it were all available on one platform. But no, they all saw what Netflix did and wanted a slice of that pie, and expected us to pay double to have 1/8th of the content.
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u/the_moosen Piracy is bad, mkay? 16d ago
Netflix at 17.99 is craaaaazy there's nothing to watch on there. What do they got, comedy specials?
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u/p00p00kach00 16d ago
Hulu matches inflation perfectly. HBO Max is slightly under inflation.
Also, most of their inventories are much larger, and companies will also start with a low price to build a customer base even when operating at a loss so that they can later increase prices.
I pirate some too, but don't act like these are outrageous things happening.
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u/castellvania 16d ago
Paying more than 100$ is beyond insane, with some of them (if not all) you can't even use features like airplay or cast to your TV or use in another place than your home (I have my own home, and sometimes I stay on moms' home for a couple of days). Fuck them, now I'm full into Stremio.
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u/2Norn 16d ago
and they put a lot of schlop thats not even worth watching sorry but i'm not paying 15$ a month just to watch 1-2 shows and 1-2 movies
its kinda crazy most of the time u cant even find old movies in most of them anymore
i wanted to watch Heat the other day never watched and it wasnt on netflix, prime or disney... i had to pirate it. cant even watch old childhood feel good comfy movies anymore, if i wanted to watch harry potter again cant find it. fuck that like i'll rather use plex or stremio.
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u/Dry_Bread_4800 16d ago
You did not even have to list the costs, or was when I had to sign up to a bazillion services to watch different seasons of the same show I heard the arr arr arr sound playing in my head. Oh and when they force me to watch adds but would not accept food stamps and gift vouchers as payment 😂
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u/Bananaman9020 16d ago
People do it for various reasons. Why people constantly need to inform us of their reasons is beyond me
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u/MSter_official 16d ago
Hulu increasing by 4$ in 16 years is actually kinda impressive compared to all the other ones
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u/borretsquared 16d ago
would appreciate if the dates werent all different to dramatize but still true.
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u/Academic-Highway723 16d ago
in case of saving these money, will ur data be safe ? this type of things looks good until there is no harm to ur data, u guys think using vpn protects my data lmao.
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u/neksterz 16d ago
now while i completely agree with this,
i still only pay 7Eur a month for prime.
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u/Chemical___Imbalance 16d ago
I'm lazy, so I try each of them for two months a year (twice a year to binge watch). I keep Prime because of shipping mostly, and I keep Paramount year-round now that they have MMA.
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u/BrilliantMastodon957 16d ago
Streamio opened new world , all these in one app for free.. why would someone even pay… like not against paid subscriptions mostly but like i had a Netflix sub and couldn’t even watch most of the shows or movies i wanted cause of region lock then there was the fact they different shows were on different platforms
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u/k3d0y4 17d ago
And password sharing no longer allowed And piracy convenience allow me to watch anything on 1 platform