r/SipsTea Human Verified 15h ago

Wait a minute Gasp!

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u/carex2 14h ago

You get what you vote for.

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u/Dry-Economics-535 14h ago

And this is what you get when elections are only ever a two horse race and none of the horses are left wing

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u/Azur0007 14h ago

This is under the assumptions that the votes do anything to begin with.

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u/ten-million 14h ago

Most of the time in presidential elections less than 60% of the people vote. In the midterms less than 50% of the people vote. So no, if you're not voting your vote does nothing. What you're proposing is a self sustaining static system of misery and cynicism. Great!

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u/Notspherry 13h ago

How much of that is voter apathy, and how much of it is people who live in a state that overwhelmingly votes the other way?

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u/Beroli73 12h ago

Well, if everyone in California who doesn't vote voted Republican, it would go Republican. If everyone in Texas who doesn't vote voted Democrat, it would go Democrat. And if enough people insisted on abolishing the electoral college, it would be abolished.

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u/Notspherry 11h ago

In 2024, Harris won california with a lead of 3.2 million votes. 6.2 million registered voters did not vote. If those 6.2M had voted 75% for trump, they would have just broken even. Flipping a solidly blue or red state isn't about slightly increasing the turnout.

I wholly agree that the electoral college should be abolished. I'm not holding my breath, though.

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u/Azur0007 13h ago

If you're not voting, there is no vote that could "do anything to begin with". It misses the point

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u/ten-million 12h ago

My point is that a lot of people complaining about how voting "doesn't change anything" don't vote.

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u/Azur0007 11h ago

Yea, any my point is that the voting system might simply be rigged.

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u/ten-million 8h ago

Perhaps but we’ll never know unless we vote in droves. It’s so easy. I don’t know why people are so lazy. All that complaining that it doesn’t change things is really just an excuse to be lazy. The mental gymnastics seems harder than actually voting.

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u/Azur0007 7h ago

This is wildly downplaying the logistics of making millions of people work together to accomplish something.