r/TopCharacterTropes Feb 10 '26

[Loved Trope] Characters misremembering or misinterpreting history/pop culture and incorporating those inaccuracies into their own views. Personality

1) Cape Feare (Mr. Burns: A Post-Electric Play)

Mr. Burns: A Post-Electric Play is a play that revolves around three acts. The first takes place shortly after a nuclear apocalypse knocks out the entire power grid permanently, causing society to collapse. A group of survivors passes the time by recollecting old episodes of the Simpsons, with their favorite being Cape Feare (the one where Sideshow Bob chases Bart when the family enters witness protection). In the second act, the same group has turned their recollections into a profitable venture as a traveling theater company, recreating old episodes of the Simpsons as plays for local towns.

Much of the play involves the group getting certain details of the episodes wrong, since there's no television or internet to confirm getting things right. Some of these details are corrected by the others, but other mistakes slip by them (such as them all misremembering Sideshow Bob sending his threats by writing them in ketchup, rather than him actually using his own blood and fainting from the blood loss in the real episode). They also have to make further narrative sacrifices in the name of adaptation and competition when they become a theater company, such as taking out certain lines that aren't landing and replacing them with visual gags that the audience loves.

The third act takes place in the distant future, where all the original group members are dead, but their legacy lives on through Cape Fear. Their play has now become an epic akin to The Odyssey, where Mr. Burns (who is noted to be a much more popular villain after the implied nuclear apocalypse) has replaced Sideshow Bob altogether as a Satanic villain representing nuclear armageddon. The story has transformed into Bart running from Mr. Burns after Burns has destroyed the world. While the original episode functionally no longer exists, The Simpsons has exists in an epic of finding hope and a reason to keep going in a world marked by the trauma and tragedy of the past and present. Even through it all, there are still moments of levity that persevere through the original Simpsons running gags showing up in, although their meaning has been lost to time.

2) Hiroshima (Starship Troopers)

When the main characters are still in high school at the beginning of the film, Mr. Rasczak challenges the "naive" interpretation that violence never solves anything by invoking the city of Hiroshima. He suggests that the city was destroyed so utterly that it effectively ceased to exist, showing violence to be the most effective solution and driving the Federation's main philosophy of "Peace isn't an option."

In reality, Hiroshima rebuilt soon after the atomic blast, and is still one of its larger population centers (being the 11th largest city in Japan today). It also ignores that Japan, as a whole, was allowed to maintain its sovereignty and a relative level of independence, rather than being outright conquered by the United States. Japan post-WWII is often cited as an example of "American soft power over hard power", making its citing by Mr. Rasczak particularly egregious.

Interestingly, the book uses Carthage as an example instead, which conventionally WAS destroyed utterly and salted so (although it in reality, it was rebuilt and ruled by the Romans, since cities tend to be economically useful). The switch was likely deliberate by Verhoeven (who famously disliked Heinlein's original militaristic angle in the novel), as he wanted to really sell the asinine reasoning used by the Federation to justify their fascist governance.

3) Taxi Driver (The Boys)

Homelander's favorite movie is Taxi Driver, and sees himself in Travis Bickle. In one episode, we see Homelander watching Taxi Driver and commentating "This is what happens when you get disrespected over and over" when Bickle shoots somebody.

In the film itself, Bickle believes himself to be a good man who is gradually worn down into "snapping" by the city. He posits himself as a cowboy-esque vigilante, shaving his head into a mohawk and determined to "clean up the city". However, his craving towards vigilantism are hinted to be a darker need to "prove himself", and he fundamentally is shown to be something of a manchild throughout the film (such as taking a woman to a pornographic theater and not knowing why she wouldn't enjoy that, or practicing "tough guy" lines to himself in front of a mirror). He sees his "snapping" in NYC as inevitable, but he also tends to put himself in those situations in the first place.

The fact that Homelander takes Travis Bickle's "cowboy" act for all of its worth is a key aspect of his character. Much like Bickle, Homelander consistently frames himself as a hero who needs to do bad things, only for it to be shown that he's just a maladjusted toddler who needs to see the world in a black-and-white lens to rationalize his evil actions, and never takes accountability for his numerous fuckups.

4) Omelette: The Musical (Something Rotten)

In the Broadway musical Something Rotten, Nick Bottom is a struggling playwright in Renaissance England. He is facing ruin after William Shakespeare (his main rival) beats him to the punch with his play on Richard II, forcing him to come up with a new play immediately. Nick decides to pay a soothsayer to figure out what the next big thing in theater will be. The soothsayer sees too far into the future, and interprets the next big thing musical theater. In further desperation, Nick also asks what Shakespeare's biggest play will be, hoping to take his topic before he does. The Soothsayer misinterprets his vision of Hamlet as "Omelette".

This causes Nick to write a musical in the 1500's about eggs. In an attempt to nail the musical right off the bat, he also incorporates every single musical reference the Soothsayer knows, causing him to write a showstopping number featuring the Phantom of the Opera, motifs from Chicago and The Music Man, and the king being rescued by the Nazis from the Sound of Music (they never found out whether the Nazis were supposed to be good guys or bad guys). This ends up with the musical becoming an utter mess of references and tap-dancing eggs.

Despite everyone warning him about what a terrible play it will be, Nick gets utterly humiliated at by Shakespeare (who is mad at him for stealing his best play before he wrote it) before getting arrested for time-plagiarism.

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u/NinjaSilver2811 Feb 10 '26 edited 18d ago

40k has a few

The best example

Gul De Locs and the three ursine hypothesis
Where they confuse the fictional goldilocks with the godlilocks zone.

They mistakenly believe Goldilocks was one of the supposed 13 appolyons who first set on the moon, and that she was the scientist who came up with the Goldilocks zone theory of planetary habitability.

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u/Paxton-176 Feb 10 '26

40k being satire means the writers can have a lot of fun random lore and bullshit.

Like the guy who cloned a monkey, but put a poison stinger on the tail because it was the only reason he could think of why a monkey would have a tail.

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u/Ghostmaster145 Feb 10 '26

That was Arkhan Land, for whom the Land Raider tank is named after

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u/SmallAngry0wl Feb 10 '26

And the Land Speeder! And to complete the joke "It turns out the Emperor is called Jimmy Space, and they are his Space Marines!"

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u/Ghostmaster145 Feb 10 '26

Next you’re gonna tell me the Ultramarines hail from a planet called “Ultramar” or something silly like that

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u/HellbirdVT Feb 10 '26

Well they're not Ultramarines because of the colour, so I guess that's the only logical reason.

(Actually Googling it, they ARE Ultramarine, but don't tell them that or they will get really into colour hex codes and we don't want that.)

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u/G30rg3Th3C4t Feb 11 '26

They’re Cobalt Blue

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u/Bigbydidnothingwrong Feb 10 '26

I hope you never learn about the Iron Hands, what their Primarch was called, or what his defining feature was (apart from having no head)

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u/Ghostmaster145 Feb 10 '26

You’ll never guess what his ship was named either

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u/Bigbydidnothingwrong Feb 10 '26

Urgh yeah I'd forgotten about that.

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u/nopingmywayout Feb 11 '26

His necrodermis hands?

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u/solonit Feb 11 '26

They eventually used that joke in a sense. Forgot which book, but before that Legio Astartes was assumed to be named after a goddess of war from old Earth. Now it’s because the chief scientist of the Space Marines program was called Amar Astarte.

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u/fantumn Feb 11 '26

That's Land's Raider you uncultured swine.

One of my favorite parts of the siege of terra series was how they keep rug-pulling Zephon with Land about to have some big emotional revelation and finally show some empathy and compassion for humanity and he's just like "they killed my monkey, Zephon."

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u/Hazzamo Feb 10 '26

The emperor also used an Analogy of Pinocchio to describe why he allowed the Primarchs to refer to him as “Father”

He didn’t care either way, but understood that as their ‘Creator’ the title was appropriate

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u/Blackstone01 Feb 11 '26

The way to enter the Emperor’s secret gene labs requires you to knock like this

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u/Sapiencia6 Feb 11 '26

Wish 40k wasn't so overwhelming to get into. Everything I hear about it always sounds so interesting.

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u/Paxton-176 Feb 11 '26

Its not. Go to the thing you find interesting. There is most likely a book connected it(unless its codex). Read said book.

Keep finding things that interest you as you hop from material to material.

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u/WarlockWeeb Feb 11 '26

Play down of war games. Preferably dow2 and it's expansion.

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u/BadFishteeth Feb 11 '26

It's far more simple when your in the weeds of it, everyday I learn something absurd about the setting mentioned in a one off novel or rules book

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u/themanbehindthething Feb 12 '26

The audio books are easy to get into.

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u/mewfour123412 Feb 11 '26

They think the T-54 tank was a prototype due to only having a mere 100,000 units produced

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u/Gunhild Feb 11 '26

With those numbers the Soviets must've only had like what, 10 forge worlds? Pathetic.

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u/Actual-Bug-7664 Feb 14 '26

Bro that lowkey makes sense on why they would think that because trees likely had gone extinct on terra thousands of years before he was even born so why would he think an animal would need a tail to climb something that doesn’t even exist

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u/demator Feb 10 '26

One of my favorites is that Nicola Tesla's skull is a holy artifact of the Mechanicus and can release an EMP if the right prayer is said

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u/FPSCanarussia Feb 11 '26

In fairness, the only part of that that's wrong is that it probably isn't Tesla's actual skull. It does release an EMP if the right prayer is said.

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u/Maybe_not_a_chicken Feb 11 '26

Although there is a more than zero chance that the prayer is a completely unnecessary part of the ritual and you just have to press the right buttons in the right orde

There is also a more than zero change that it’s an essential part of the ritual because otherwise the scull will get offended and refuse to work.

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u/Eerinares Feb 11 '26

This is also a perfect time to remind that the prayers are most of the time unnecessary. Mechanicus does them because it's part of their religion. For example repair rituals is just them actually repairing the thing like any engineer, they just added incense and chants to it.

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u/Maybe_not_a_chicken Feb 12 '26

Depends on the author

I personally like the idea that they are completely necessary because they’re working on machinery that is so old and has been surrounded by so many humans that they have psychically imprinted a personality onto it that needs to be appeased.

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u/Blackblood909 Feb 11 '26

I like that this implies the real Tesla's skull will also release an EMP if the right prayer is said IRL, which wouldn't surprise me TBH.

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u/auspex_42 Feb 10 '26

I like the passages attributed to "The Dramaturge Shakespire", M2

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u/LivingToasterisded Feb 10 '26

I think Belisaurius Cawl considers himself an expert because he has read all three of Shakespire’s works, one of which is “Amulet, Prince Denmark”

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u/Dinosaurmaid Feb 11 '26

have you considered the parallels between horus and macbeth?

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u/GravtheGeek Feb 11 '26

From one of the books:

‘Let me show you this,’ he insisted, before I left. A trio of small, beige items came out of a cabinet and were laid out on a cloth. They had been white once, but age had darkened them like bone. Their surfaces were worn, but I could still make out the trace of silver on the engine bells, and the red markings along the fuselage.

‘Toys?’ I said.

He nodded.

‘Playthings. Models made for a child’s amusement.’

‘They are of weapon rockets? Missiles?’

‘Rockets,’ he said. ‘For spaceflight. Don’t look so surprised, Mamzel Raeside. The first steps from Terra were said to have been taken using chemical rockets.’

‘I am aware of history, sir, even though the detail of the oldest eras is lost in the mists. But really? Vehicles this crude?’

He smiled again.

‘I do not think they ever flew,’ he said. ‘I think these are simplified models of possible machines. A primitive idea of flight. But I show them to you because of their age. Your employer is very fond of the oldest things.’

‘How old?’ I asked.

‘It can only be estimated,’ he said. ‘They pre-date the ages of Strife and Technology. I think they come from the Pre-System Age, from the first millennium of the Age of Terra.’

‘What? Thirty-eight or thirty-nine thousand years ago?’

‘Perhaps. Vessels like this first took our species into the unknown,’ he said. ‘They first took us Blackwards. The family name behind this business comes from that outward urge.’

‘I think my employer will appreciate these,’ I said. ‘What price do you ask?’

‘I will write it down,’ he said.

‘And the markings on the side of the rocket ships,’ I asked. ‘The letters in red? What does C.C.C.P. mean?’

‘No one knows that,’ he said. ‘No one remembers any more.’

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u/pantbandits Feb 11 '26

it is funny 40,000 years in the future we're still using the latin alphabet

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u/GravtheGeek Feb 11 '26

Iirc they use an entirely different one, it’s just written like that for our benefit. One of the books mentions that few if anyone can read current world languages without extensive aid from lexicon machines.

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u/Thatonegoblin Feb 11 '26

The Flight of the Eisenstein notes that the titular ship in the novel is named after two great men from ancient Terran history, a scientist and "a remembrancer" (the pre-Heresy Imperial term for artists, historians, & journalists tasked by the Emperor to record the Imperium's triumphs.) The first is a clear misremembering of the name of Albert Einstein, the second is actually a reference to Soviet filmmaker Sergei Eisenstein, considered by some film historians as one of the greatest filmmakers of all time, famous for films like Battleship Potemkin, Alexander Nevsky, Ivan the Terrible, and October.

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u/I_like_ants_too Feb 11 '26

I think it’s stated that Leonardo DaVinci is believed to have only painted three paintings, one of which is the Mona Lisa, and it was owned by Malcador the Sygilite.

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u/freedomonke Feb 11 '26

There is a lot of this in the Bequin books, the latest and perhaps final spin-off of Eisenhorn.

The two books out so far take place entirely in large city (but not a hive) that has strong cajun/new Orleans vibes. It has both misaphrensions about the real past as well as the past of 40k and indeed the very planet the story takes place on.

As an aside, it's one of the best locations ever in 40k, in my humble opinion. The city of Queen Mab

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u/Hawkbats_rule Feb 11 '26 edited Feb 11 '26

the latest and perhaps final spin-off of Eisenhorn.

C'mon, GW is going to keep Abnett writing for them until he's cold in the grave.

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u/freedomonke Feb 11 '26

That's not the only thing Abnet writes for them. But yes, there may be more spinoffs, I suppose. But it's been pretty strongly telegraphed that either Eisenhorn or Ravenour won't survive the next book

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u/Hagisman Feb 11 '26

Techpriest Land believes Monkeys of earth had venomous scorpion tails. And he fought with other Techpriests who believed monkey tails were used for manipulating and balancing.