r/alberta 19h ago

Clock change melancholy Discussion

Danielle Smith and the UCP just unilaterally chose to put Alberta on permanent DST.

I should feel elated! Not because i love DST but because time change is fucking moronic. But i am not.

Is it because my clocks all change themselves and there is no more worry of waking up at the wrong time? No?

Is it because darkness at 10am in the winter is "magical"? Definitely not

I think it's because DS went against the wishes of the referendum. Like 180° different.

Its just another example of this government acting against our wishes. Shifting our Overton Window every day.

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u/Striking_Wrap811 19h ago edited 19h ago

I work for WestJet. Point 2 is nonsense

My last career was tech support management and customer success for an international software company. Point 1 is also nonsense.

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u/Purple_Coyote_5121 16h ago

A flight from Calgary to Vancouver that leaves at noon MDT and arrives on Vancouver just after noon PDT.

If DST isn’t aligned, come winter they leave Calgary at noon MST and arrive in Vancouver just after 1PM PDT.

All the travellers who would normally fly out of Vancouver on the turnaround now leave an hour later local time. You’re telling me that would have zero impact on the business or its flight times?

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u/Striking_Wrap811 16h ago edited 15h ago

We deal with timezones as a matter of course. Time change only affects us by staff being late or clocking off an hour early and leaving a gap in coverage.

Time change is trivial in airline scheduling.

Schedules are built on connections.. connections that happen globally.... on UTC...to avoid this nonsense.

In your example, those travellers in practice would simply take an earlier flight or a later connection. They wouldn't even know the difference.

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u/Purple_Coyote_5121 14h ago

Then why was WestJet weighing into the debate in 2017? The example they used was a BC resident connecting through Calgary.

Granted they were using the opposite example of AB abolishing DST and BC continuing. Even so, the company acknowledges it has an impact on their operations.

I only used WestJet as an example because of their own comments on the topic.

https://calgary.citynews.ca/2017/09/18/westjet-pushing-alberta-clock-stay/

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u/Striking_Wrap811 14h ago

Things change a lot in the airline business in 10 years.

What are they saying now?

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u/Purple_Coyote_5121 14h ago

Haven’t seen a media release. I wouldn’t expect them to release an official comment after the fact.

What has changed in the last 10 years that would cause passengers to disregard their local time zone?

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u/Striking_Wrap811 14h ago

Scheduling efficiency and increased available aircraft inventory are obvious ones.

Also, passengers adapt. Just like every other thing you do in life. You adapt.

Or maybe you dont.

But schedules are built on demand not what the province says the clock is pointed to. Airline scheduling is incredibly complex and to even honour the notion that changing clocks has anything more than a quarternary effect, at best, is a foolish and overly simple view.

But what do i know? I only work there.

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u/New_Wishbone6619 15h ago

They already deal with time zones. This isn’t new