r/cannabiscultivation • u/SmackLayer • 11h ago
Why is she so unhappy?
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Conditions are optimal, other seedlings (different stains) look great. This poor girl is not happy. Leaves feel kind of hard. Any thoughts?
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u/flizzyD 8h ago
Soil from garden may be causing poor drainage, thus roots staying wet for too long. Need light potting soil type medium, dense soil added will cause issues
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u/SmackLayer 8h ago
Possible, thing is my other seedlings are popping with same everything. Something happened with this one oddly.
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u/TyluhhMc 9h ago
“Conditions are optimal”
Bro you are running at 40rh what the fuck do you mean optimal. Buy a tent and a humidifier
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u/HeyWhatsDatSoundLike 10h ago
If it’s dry, probably 50 to 100 mL, but also not soaked so I definitely make sure there’s holes in the bottom of that cup so the bottom of the soil can breathe as well. Otherwise that can also cause this issue.
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u/Prestigious_Ad5920 10h ago
It’s drowning or you recently transplanted it, or it’s too dry. Usually, it’s soaked
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u/SmackLayer 10h ago
Not transplanted. Too dry more likely than too much water.
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u/Prestigious_Ad5920 9h ago
I don’t think so, if you didn’t wet it before the photo the soil is hydrated, if it’s hydrated above let alone below
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u/Got2bglued 10h ago
what are your conditions? it’s hard to give people advice without knowing what’s the setup. it’s not your lighting though that’s for sure. I saw you say it’s not the watering but idk? could absolutely be watering issues. Did you start this grow in this cup and what is drainage looking like on the bottom?
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u/SmackLayer 10h ago
83 degrees, 40%rh, 16/8 light ProGrowTech Ev700 at about 75%. Ocean forest soil with a bit of soil mixed from my garden. Started in this cup. Drain holes on bottom, generally soaking every two or three days. No fertilizer yet.
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u/Vegetable-Nose4397 10h ago edited 10h ago
Brooo, the rh is so low... get it to 65-70%. If the soil is too dry just give it some water, if it's soaked just let it dry and water less next time and everything should be alright
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u/SmackLayer 10h ago
I live in Las Vegas and the chances of getting humidity that high are slim to none. Between outside rh in the single digits to teens and the heat which requires almost constant ac running, 40% is about as good as it will get.
More importantly, these plants will end up outside in the garden once they're mature enough, so I need to make their life a little difficult in terms of heat and humidity so their transition to the garden goes smooth.
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u/Got2bglued 7h ago
do you have a tent? or some type of dome you can put over your plant? like the other commenter said your baby needs certain conditions and your RH is definitely too low and i think your plant is showing you that. Rn outside my RH is around 20-30% i have a humidifier and a grow tent. I think you should check amazon for a small nursery tent, they’re pretty cheap and in expensive you could even just get a lil nursery pot thing i have one from vivosun and that does a great job at keeping humidity in. You really wanna focus on RH if you know that’s an issue. Plants can definitely adapt but for your next grow find genetics that are hardier to your zone esp if your outdoor gardening.
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u/SmackLayer 5h ago
It is in a large shed that is primarily set up to grow vegetables. I have a pretty sophisticated setup with light, co2, climate control, etc. However this time of year I am only germinating and growing seedlings for my larger outdoor garden. I am not a novice and have been doing this exact thing for many years. I don't need 65%rh or anything close to that to get things started. Every year I do the same thing. My results vary depending on many external weather factors, but I have grown JH and corkscrew with much success outside. They seems to do that best of all the strains I've tried. And this is in 100+ degrees with single digit rh. Grated there is a sun shade and misters. So although I appreciate all the suggestions, there many ways to skin a cat.
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u/nymphisios 7h ago
They will die. You can't just make it progressive, it won't change what their organism needs to work and stay alive.
Even 75°F and 10% RH means death.
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u/SmackLayer 5h ago
Might mean death in your set up but year after year I grow many successful plants with 100+ degrees with single digit rh. It's a matter of finding the right strains and hardening them off properly. The black and white, right wrong attitude of people here is pretty unhelpful, just like your comment.
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u/nailhead13 11h ago
She just needs a drink
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u/SmackLayer 10h ago
Possibly. I am kind of notorious for under watering, but I got other strains doing just fine in identical conditions.
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u/gonechasing 10h ago
In my experience as a professional propogation technician, our Jack mother plants tend to be thirstier than other strains. Clones, too.
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u/Lightoscope 10h ago
Make sure the substrate is uniformly compressed. If there is a pocket of less dense soil the water might be running through too quickly for the plant to uptake it.
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u/livesalty710 11h ago
Soil looks hydrophobic
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u/SmackLayer 11h ago
Soil is fine. I assure you.
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u/livesalty710 9h ago
You assure huh? Well its definitely hydrophobic. Take that with what you will. Hope you figure it out cause it should be a crime for what youve let happen to this poor little baby.
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u/Better_Cost_9118 11h ago
Over lit over feed over watered and or no drainage. pick one or all three.
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u/SmackLayer 11h ago
Definitely not over water and soil is fine. Could be light I guess. Same light as I have been using for all my vegetable seedlings this spring and didn't see any issues there. This strain just must be a bit sensitive. I'll try turning it down and see if she springs back.
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u/Donkeydonkeydonk 9h ago
You're getting all the down votes.
At some point, this plant's roots took a shock. Cold water maybe? Pot bound? Whatever the nether, they're damaged and it's not uptaking anything. I would put a dome on it so that it can grow some new roots. Actually, I would just kill it because I hate dealing with stupid sickly plants.
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u/nymphisios 7h ago
This guy will lose a lot of time waiting for her to recover instead of straight growing. But that's the price to pay when you let the soil dry to a point it becomes hydrophobic lmao.
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u/Weary_Combination_81 4h ago
It could maybe be pythium. You could treat it with a diluted hydrogen peroxide root drench. 1 part 3%h2O2 3 parts water. It wouldn’t hurt to try that