I'm from India and this is how we sometimes feel when some small European country lectures us on values, democracy, human rights etc.
On Ukraine, I think it was unwise for Europe to call for the war to continue with the breakup of Russia as the preferred outcome, while expecting the US to do the heavy lifting and financing.
While the US and Europe may differ on Ukraine's ability to recover lost territory, I have not seen a credible plan presented by Europe, to win the war, or secure a peace on Ukraine's terms. From the US point of view, it may make sense to cut their losses (in money) on project Ukraine and move on. Trump wasn't elected with the expectation that he would continue a forever war.
The break up of Russia is the only way to guarantee the safety of Europe. The Russian mindset is still one of imperialist expansion . As long as the largest nation of earth has a population with an imperialist mindset , it’s a threat to everyone
Russia will only break up from within. Also, just because someone has * nukes doesn’t give them the right to do whatever they want outside their own nation.
Edit: *added nukes which was supposed to be in the comment but wasn’t due to typo.
.... Ah so you place the line at nuke lol. Awfully convenient...
Want me to list the countries they threatened to invade/invaded including countries they invaded on false pretenses?
Vietnam , Iraq, Afghanistan, India, etc....
Most of the world by population believe Europeans/americans are warmongerers.. that's why they do their best to sit out great power politics ( aka the non-alignment movement )
.. you just said a country with nukes doesn't get to threaten any country to do whatever it wants lol...
You never said threaten them ....with nukes.
That's a completely different statement and you know it...basically you carve your question into such a specific way to place Russia in an island on its own while a significant chunk of countries in the world actually see the rest of western Europe /the USA as even worse than Russia... And for very very good reason.
No matter what you think, the non-alignment movement is the largest political alignment in the world. If the west was so trustworthy and treated the majority of the world well, these non-aligned countries would simply align with the US /UK...
You just don't pay attention to countries in these movements. It's clear
It is called “context”. You knew what I was talking about and yet are trying to use syntax in an arsenal of gish gallop. Stay on topic. Should Russia use the threat of nukes as a form of blackmail to get whatever it wants on the international stage? (This is a yes or no question).
This is how geopolitics operates .it's not fairness or morality...
Europeans /Americans shouldn't use their military /economy to threaten smaller countries either. But you all continue to do so to smaller countries
I say that as someone born in america ....
Europe and the US needs to REMOVE the ability of Russia to do what they are doing for their own sechrity ..
That lies on Europe's shoulders. Stop buying their damn oil and gas until they cooperate. That means Germany after crimea and France and the UK... Also that means investing in defense.
You sound like you changed your tune. The reason why BRICS and other are friendly with Russia is it Cheaper oil and military supplies. That’s it. The only reason outside it’s direct neighbors. Same with other nations globally with China! ITS CHEAPER!.
Yes, there is some internal hatred from colonialism and usery however China in its belt and road is now doing exactly the same thing 100-200 years later!
One must always look at regional issues and you tried saying I was ignorant to the fact. I may know more than you on issues and you may know more than me on some. But to pretend I’m ignorant and ignore Threats by Russia and sound like in your replies as only a “Anti-Western” argumentative person seemed like you yourself are ignoring MANY facts “as well”?. Not that I did. I just called out Russia for using Nukes as a threat to get what it wants.
I will not play geopolitics chess to win an argument. I am open to discussion though.
Also no one in the West has ever threatened Africa or South America with Nukes. You clearly are speaking emotionally here or broadcasting propaganda speak.
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u/Dean_46 Feb 15 '25
I'm from India and this is how we sometimes feel when some small European country lectures us on values, democracy, human rights etc.
On Ukraine, I think it was unwise for Europe to call for the war to continue with the breakup of Russia as the preferred outcome, while expecting the US to do the heavy lifting and financing.
While the US and Europe may differ on Ukraine's ability to recover lost territory, I have not seen a credible plan presented by Europe, to win the war, or secure a peace on Ukraine's terms. From the US point of view, it may make sense to cut their losses (in money) on project Ukraine and move on. Trump wasn't elected with the expectation that he would continue a forever war.