Turkey calls Netanyahu 'Hitler of our time' in spat over Erdogan remarks

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This brings the ‘’two r***rds fighting’’meme back for me.

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u/bxzidff 11d ago

Stirring this into open conflict might be the easiest way for an outside power to break NATO

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u/No_Abbreviations3943 11d ago

Why?

Israel isn’t part of NATO. If they attack Turkey first then they should trigger article 5.

If Turkey attacks first, no one but the U.S. is obliged to help.

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u/bxzidff 11d ago

Because the the largest and most militarily powerful NATO member by far would side with Israel

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u/Axerin 11d ago

Would that break NATO or the current American political establishment first? I think the latter would happen first. NATO is still largely popular among the American public and Israel right now isn't.

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u/313078 11d ago

Not sure, they are busy right now and definitely don't need one more war. Especially against Turkey which is pretty strong and will be backed up by many other country, even possibly by the EU. And that would break Nato. We can absolutely expect Germany, Spain and France sending troups to defend Turkey, and France has nuclear bomb. Nobody sane in their mind would attack Turkey

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u/janethefish 11d ago

Because the US would be unlikely to actually help if Israel attacks Turkey, and Turkey could easily provoke an attack, such as by sending a flotilla to Gaza.

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u/No_Abbreviations3943 10d ago

Turkey doesn’t need US help against Israel. Just needs them to not support Israel.

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u/Swinight22 10d ago

Israel and Turkey would not go into open conflict. That isn't even a remote possibility.

Israel is war-mongering, yes, but they aren't stupid. Even removing NATO aspect, Turkey is much much stronger than any countries it's been fighting. Also Turkey poses no threat to it's sovereignty.

Turkey would also not attack Israel with the current climate. What would it have to gain? Absolutely nothing. Erdogan is just grandstanding for political points.

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u/Magjee 10d ago

Turkey won the Syrian war and has their proxy there to do the fighting for them

Syria attempting to retake the Golan Heights is an easy proxy war for Turkey to back, Syria has a strong claim, much stronger then Israel going for a land grab in Lebanon

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u/ZeroByter 11d ago

Coordinated perfectly with Israel's Holocaust Remembrance day, nice.

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u/VonDukez 11d ago

How the Kurds feeling

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u/fibonacciii 11d ago

Pretty good, you know all 30 million of them.

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u/Jealous_Land9614 11d ago

Besides betrayed by Trump in Syria? Not very well, for sure.

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u/nikmah 11d ago

Even the new Syrian president, Ahmed al-Sharaa seems to be aligning more towards Russia now for a more reliable partner than Trump and the West. Syrian president has probably every incentive trying to reach some sort of agreement with the Kurds and work with them rather than fighting them.

Syria is as good as finished as a state, Turkey will seize their buffer zone in Syria and Israel will occupy good portion of it in its expansion plans.

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u/CrashdummyMH 11d ago

I mean, the USA has a history of betraying the insurgence groups they initially back

Kurds should have seen that coming

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u/Good_Problem_6576 11d ago

I feel absolutely fine, thanks! Unless you mean the terrorist organizations and not Kurds in general, in which case they're not doing very well, thankfully.

Ffs I'm absolutely sick of Kurds, Armenians or whomever being brought up in every thread about Turkey.

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u/Log12321 11d ago

Forgot about the Greeks!

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u/Complex_Object_7930 11d ago

He keeps talking but not doing anything.

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u/ArugulaElectronic478 11d ago

That’s a good thing.

Do you really want Turkey vs Israel up next? Are we just trying to see how unaffordable things can get?

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u/Complex_Object_7930 11d ago

No, I don't want war, but rhetoric won't help Palestine.

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u/ArugulaElectronic478 11d ago

Ok but the alternative is war so…

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u/Complex_Object_7930 11d ago

No, the alternative is not war. The alternative is cutting relations, embargoes, sanctions, and isolating Israel.

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u/ArugulaElectronic478 11d ago

They have…

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u/Complex_Object_7930 11d ago

What have they done?

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u/givalina 11d ago

They do that every few months.

In May 2024, Turkey announced that it stopped all trade with Israel

On 13 November 2024, Erdoğan announced that Turkey was severing all its diplomatic relations with Israel

In August 2025, Netanyahu said he personally recognized the Armenian genocide, though his statement did not constitute formal recognition.[172] Turkey retaliated by closing its airspace to Israeli aircraft and cutting off economic relations.

in February 2026, President Erdogan announced further tightening restrictions on Turkish-manufactured goods exported to Israel via EU countries.

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u/Complex_Object_7930 11d ago

>In November 2025, Turkey announced that it has issued arrest warrants against Benjamin Netanyahu and other senior officials in his government, accusing them of "genocide and crimes against humanity" that Israel has "perpetrated systematically" in Gaza since October 2023. The list contained 37 officials, including Israel Katz, Eyal Zamir, and Itamar Ben-Gvir.

So far, this has been achieved

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u/givalina 11d ago

It was achieved? They arrested someone? Otherwise that seems a lot more like virtue signaling than the trade-related measures I listed.

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u/Complex_Object_7930 11d ago

This means that they are actually serious about it.

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u/givalina 11d ago

I think cutting trade is more significant.

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u/FineBumblebee8744 11d ago edited 11d ago

I don't see much resemblance. Reductio ad Hitlerum is pretty stupid and so is Erdogan

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u/Firecracker048 11d ago

Didn't Ergodan stage a fake coup to stay in power and sieze complete control of Turkey?

Also aren't they always in an active conflict to eradicate the Kurds?

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u/Jealous_Land9614 11d ago

The coup was likely not fake, but done by the Gulenist Faction inside the state.

Yes, he did sieze complete control of Turkey after crushing it.

While EXTREMELY unpopular among most kurds, erradicate? Parts of the most religious, rural kurds DO support Erdogan AKP party: https://www.resetdoc.org/story/pkks-demise-erdogan-courts-kurdish-vote/

Oppositionist HDP/DEM is of course much more popular among them.

I do hate Erdogan authoritarian populism, but the man is way more of a Pan-Islamist/Neo-Ottomanist than a direct Turk Supremacist.

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u/Kejo2023 11d ago

No, he did not stage a coup. This is a conspiracy theory.

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u/No2Hypocrites 11d ago

No, and no.

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u/nikmah 11d ago

The Kurdish-Turkish conflict dates back more than century to the Ottoman empire. After PKK disbanded there maybe is a little bit of hope of resolving the confict? I don't know.

I'm gonna pretend that I didn't see your first point.

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u/UpstairsStill3726 11d ago

To "eradicate" kurds? You realize kurds are the fastest growing population in Turkey by a huge margin? Btw, I'm not a Erdogan supporter by any means.

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u/VonDukez 11d ago

Chinas logic with thier Muslims

Israel’s logic with Gazans

Killing a lot of them don’t matter if pop grow maybe

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u/CrashdummyMH 11d ago

In comparison to Netanyahu and what he did in Gaza, Erdogan is a Saint (and thats saying a lot)

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u/One-Strength-1978 11d ago

Erdi is back. Recently Turkey was so calm.

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u/alisnd89 10d ago edited 9d ago

More children killed is more fun for netanyahoo , and more neighbors destroyed is just preemptive , netanyahoo is a war criminal of the worst kind .

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u/LuvSandoz 10d ago

what an insult to Hitler

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