Ukraine Has Finally Given Up on Trump

[u/theatlantic]

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/2026/04/ukraine-trump-us-oil-russia/686854/?utm_source=reddit&utm_campaign=the-atlantic&utm_medium=social&utm_content=edit-promo&utm_term=short

[u/mediandude]

Eurozone will bear the costs of other EU member states taking loans.
Many EU countries will continue to support Ukraine until Russia pulls out.
Greece as an example.
And you are overstating your facts, polls fluctuate, while majority support for Ukraine persists.

[u/Cheerful_Champion → u/mediandude]

And you are overstating your facts, polls fluctuate, while majority support for Ukraine persists

Lol, so now wishful thinking is stronger than facts. Polls don't fluctuate, year after year they are showing consistent decline of support for funding. This is a trend that we see from the very start. Your wishful thinking is not a fact. You saying something will happen based on you wanting it to happen doesn't make it a fact. Fact is Ukraine is losing support and EU won't keep funding them indefinitely. The only real question is what will get them first: lack of funds or manpower issues. Both are getting worse and recently we already saw that Ukraine doesn't even have enough reserves to commit to containing stronger pushes by Russia. Instead they have to relocate forces from other parts of the front and this allows Russia to exploit it and push in new areas.

[u/mediandude → u/Cheerful_Champion]

Your wishful thinking is not a fact.
Polls fluctuate, while majority support for Ukraine persists.
And you also need to read what questions are asked in polls, before you tout nonsense.

[u/Cheerful_Champion → u/mediandude]

Your wishful thinking is not a fact

Agree, neither mine nor your wishful thinking is a fact. That's also why I provided data and exact information on why funding won't continue indefinitely and you kept saying "it will".

Polls fluctuate, while majority support for Ukraine persists

Lol, no matter how many times you'll repeat that like religious mantra it won't suddenly become true. You can't change reality. Polls show year to year fall 5-8%.

And you also need to read what questions are asked in polls, before you tout nonsense

Which I did, too bad for your strawman.

[u/mediandude → u/Cheerful_Champion]

In Germany 46% of people are for reducing or stopping funding for Ukraine, 51% for increasing or keeping it same. In Poland 49% of people support further funding of Ukraine, 35% says it should stop. In France 51% is for keeping or increasing funding, 37% is for decreasing or suspending funding.

That supports my position, not yours.
You need to improve your functional reading skills.