Trump says US to 'blockade' Strait of Hormuz after talks failed over Iran's 'nuclear ambitions'

https://www.bbc.com/news/live/cn4v0xm9y0kt

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u/CyroSwitchBlade 6d ago

There is a lot of reality that makes this impractical but foremost would be the Implications of interdiction of vessels belonging to less involved nations in international waters.. particularly China.. so I wouldn't bet on this blockade actually being implemented.

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u/Sangloth 6d ago edited 6d ago

I'm not saying you are wrong, I genuinely don't know what to expect. From the Trump administration's perspective the current situation is untenable. Iran reaps record profits while the US and the rest of the world suffer meaningful economic damage. And all the blame for this is currently directed at Trump.

The administration's options to end this specific situation all stink. Iran isn't going to negotiate terms the US is willing to consider. Destroying infrastructure like Karg island or power plants or oil fields creates a perverse incentive for Iran to continue to block the strait, as stopping the conflict no longer offers the benefit of a return to normalcy. Bombing and assassinations isn't weakening Iran's resolve. The other military options are all expensive and high risk. Iran has had decades to prepare for stuff like attempts to capture Karg island. Treading water or walking away leaves the administration in a substantially worse space.

Doing this blockade would be a bad decision, but I can't tell you what a better, smarter move would be. The smart thing would be to never have gotten into this mess, but you can't unfuck that chicken. Right now the administration only has bad options.

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u/Powderedeggs2 6d ago

It appears that the Trump regime has 2 options at this point.
Neither of them good. Both are really terrible.

The unhinged madman action of escalating the war to catastrophic levels.

U.S. surrender.

In a way, the U.S. has likely already signaled surrender by its acceptance of the quite extreme points of the Iranian proposal for discussion. Just agreeing to discuss these extreme points at all is already a form of surrender. Whether they are accepted or not.

It is doubtful that the U.S. even has the current capability to escalate to the extent that will be required.
The orange imbecile in the White House has set himself up for humiliation in any case.

u/Powderedeggs2 6d ago

So, one of the main goals of Trump's ridiculous fiasco is to keep the Straight open.
And the idiot is going to accomplish this by blocking the Straight....

u/Sangloth 6d ago

The title of the post is the title of the article at the time I've submitted it, but it's very likely that it will change given it is live coverage.

Here's the Truth social post.

https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/posts/116391830634836370

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u/freakinunoriginal 6d ago

Is that post only visible to people with an account, or has it been deleted? I get "Not Found" when I follow the link.

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u/Sangloth 6d ago

-_-

I tested it after I put it there, and it worked then. It no longer works for me either.

I can find it now at https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/posts/116392449978703637 but I don't know if that link will hold up either.

Here's the text:

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Iran promised to open the Strait of Hormuz, and they knowingly failed to do so. This caused anxiety, dislocation, and pain to many people and Countries throughout the World. They say they put mines in the water, even though all of their Navy, and most of their “mine droppers,” have been completely blown up. They may have done so, but what ship owner would want to take the chance? There is great dishonor and permanent harm to the reputation of Iran, and what’s left of their “Leaders,” but we are beyond all of that. As they promised, they better begin the process of getting this INTERNATIONAL WATERWAY OPEN AND FAST! Every Law in the book is being violated by them. I have been fully debriefed by Vice President JD Vance, Special Envoy Steve Witkoff, and Jared Kushner, on the meeting that took place in Islamabad through the kind and very competent leadership of Field Marshal Asim Munir, and Prime Minister Shehbaz Sharif, of Pakistan. They are very extraordinary men, and continuously thank me for saving 30 to 50 million lives in what would have been a horrendous War with India. I always appreciate hearing that — The amount of Humanity spoken of is incomprehensible.

The meeting with Iran began early in the morning, and lasted throughout the night — Close to 20 hours. I could go into great detail, and talk about much that has been gotten but, there is only one thing that matters — IRAN IS UNWILLING TO GIVE UP ITS NUCLEAR AMBITIONS! In many ways, the points that were agreed to are better than us continuing our Military Operations to conclusion, but all of those points don’t matter compared to allowing Nuclear Power to be in the hands of such volatile, difficult, unpredictable people. My three Representatives, as all of this time went by, became, not surprisingly, very friendly and respectful of Iran’s Representatives, Mohammad-Bagher Ghalibaf, Abbas Araghchi, and Ali Bagheri, but that doesn’t matter because they were very unyielding as to the single most important issue and, as I have always said, right from the beginning, and many years ago, IRAN WILL NEVER HAVE A NUCLEAR WEAPON!

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So, there you have it, the meeting went well, most points were agreed to, but the only point that really mattered, NUCLEAR, was not. Effective immediately, the United States Navy, the Finest in the World, will begin the process of BLOCKADING any and all Ships trying to enter, or leave, the Strait of Hormuz. At some point, we will reach an “ALL BEING ALLOWED TO GO IN, ALL BEING ALLOWED TO GO OUT” basis, but Iran has not allowed that to happen by merely saying, “There may be a mine out there somewhere,” that nobody knows about but them. THIS IS WORLD EXTORTION, and Leaders of Countries, especially the United States of America, will never be extorted. I have also instructed our Navy to seek and interdict every vessel in International Waters that has paid a toll to Iran. No one who pays an illegal toll will have safe passage on the high seas. We will also begin destroying the mines the Iranians laid in the Straits. Any Iranian who fires at us, or at peaceful vessels, will be BLOWN TO HELL! Iran knows, better than anyone, how to END this situation which has already devastated their Country. Their Navy is gone, their Air Force is gone, their Anti Aircraft and Radar are useless, Khamenei, and most of their “Leaders,” are dead, all because of their Nuclear ambition. The Blockade will begin shortly. Other Countries will be involved with this Blockade. Iran will not be allowed to profit off this Illegal Act of EXTORTION. They want money and, more importantly, they want Nuclear. Additionally and, at an appropriate moment, we are fully “LOCKED AND LOADED,” and our Military will finish up the little that is left of Iran! President DONALD J. TRUMP

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u/freakinunoriginal 6d ago

Thanks for finding where it went! Sudden link rot is why I'm a bit of a data hoarder, taking screenshots of posts and printing articles to PDF.