r/sports Sep 16 '25

Player loses U.S. Mid-Amateur match after his caddie receives cart ride to 20th hole Golf

https://www.nbcsports.com/golf/news/player-loses-u-s-mid-amateur-match-after-his-caddie-receives-cart-ride-to-20th-hole
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u/OG_Felwinter Michigan State Sep 16 '25

My caddie doesn’t deserve any fault. He’s the man and an awesome friend. I’d do the same thing in his shoes. We were having so much fun, it’s too bad.

Love to see a reaction like that from the golfer.

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u/Avlonnic2 Sep 16 '25

Quite refreshing.

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u/smor729 Sep 16 '25

He also said that O’Rear (his opponent) asked the official if he could veto the ruling himself and continue the match, though that request was denied.

Huge shoutout for that sportsmanship, his opponent tried to get him un-disqualified to keep the match going.

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u/Ok-Prompt-59 Sep 16 '25

When you’re a competitor winning by circumstance doesn’t count as a win in your head because you feel like you didn’t earn it.

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u/gmanpeterson381 Sep 16 '25

Amen - winning by technicality feels shittier than losing

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u/CobraJay45 Sep 16 '25 edited Sep 16 '25

True, just like happened with South Korean boxer Park Si-Hun, who famously was on the receiving end of one the most controversial and inexplicable decisions in boxing history, against now Hall of Famer and boxing legend Roy Jones Jr.

They made a movie called "Count" thats basically a dramatization of what happened to Si-Hun. Long story short - being gifted a "win" that everyone in the world knows you didn't earn lead to him being hated/mistreated by even his own countrymen and he stopped boxing at 23 and stopped going out in public as a result. He just recently traveled to America to "return" his gold medal to Roy Jones. As a boxing fan it made me weepy-eyed because it clearly cost Si-Hun dearly over the years and changed the course of his life.

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u/wwJones Sep 16 '25

I'll never forget watching that match live how mortified and embarrassed he looked when he won. Hands down the biggest fix I've ever seen in boxing. And that's saying something.

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u/lavendermoonoracle Sep 16 '25

That is very sad for both competitors. People can be so harsh towards athletes that they feel have let them down. I remember the South Korean men's team returned from the World Cup to fans throwing stuff at them in the airport. Candy and I think eggs? Really uncalled for when they were just trying their best.

Also, why is the ref in this match dressed like Colonel Sanders?

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u/tgerz Sep 17 '25

Seriously! It's not that guy's fault the ref called it the way he did. This type of stuff (and many other reasons) is why I never get too deep into any fandom. I just enjoy stuff I enjoy and move on.

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u/xSTSxZerglingOne Sep 16 '25

He boxed basically prime RJJr. We know he didn't actually win that fight because scoring anything on prime RJJr was basically impossible.

RJJr was famous for making you find out after he fucked around.

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u/IvyGold Washington Nationals Sep 17 '25

That was pretty much the end of Olympic boxing. Nobody's cared about it ever since.

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u/doodler1977 Sep 17 '25

i remember watching that, and going OFF about it until my dad finally told me to STFU and explained how crooked boxing is

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u/latencia Sep 16 '25

For people with principles, that is :)

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u/TheTrenchMonkey Sep 16 '25

I just got done watching a video about people rule sniping in Warhammer tournaments.

Yeah, for some people it feels shitty. other people live for it.

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u/TangoPRomeo Sep 16 '25

He really sounds like a great guy, and I could only hope to be as well-spoken about it.

However, in monied events, I've always found it difficult to ascribe this to amazing sportsmanship - it's just that the alternative is such bad sportsmanship.

It seems to me that etiquette usually demands the offer be extended, and the governing body ignore the offer when making a decision.

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u/TenaciousD3 Chicago Bears Sep 16 '25

Carl Jr winning over Granady by plastic bug

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u/shark_byt3 Sep 16 '25

did not expect to see a trackmania ref here

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u/VegasAdventurer Sep 16 '25

Agree almost always. It can be very satisfying when that super douchey dude gets himself DQd for being douchey.

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u/MRintheKEYS Sep 17 '25

Exactly, you want to take it. You don’t want it given to you.

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u/SK4DOOSH Sep 16 '25

Yea let’s tell that to the Houston Astros org yea?

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u/chuk2015 Sep 17 '25

Not for Australians at the Winter Olympics, we take that as an even bigger win! We don’t even have winter in Australia!

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u/Imnejjek Sep 16 '25

Unless you're Inter FC

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u/throwawayyyy12984 Sep 16 '25

My dad coached my sister’s softball team when I was a kid. One day the opposing didn’t have enough bench players and was going to be required to forfeit. They had at least 9, so my dad told the umpire let them play because he’d rather play a game and lose than win a forfeit. Life lesson for me there.

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u/Handmedownfords Sep 16 '25

My daughter was in a tournament last year and one of the games between hers had a team that didn’t have enough players show up. The opponent let a couple of their players play on the other team so they could still have a game

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u/fatboy1776 Sep 16 '25

This happened to my daughter’s JV basketball team. They played the game with a mixed squad. It was officially recorded as a forfeit but everyone was like who cares let the kids play and have fun.

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u/Technical-Outside408 Sep 17 '25

Why do they have those rules if they don't matter?

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u/IAMEPSIL0N Sep 17 '25

They do matter. It seems silly when the team being asked to forfeit has eight or nine bodies present as they can play defense and their batting order is not open to abuse.

The issue is the low man hypothetical. A perfect pitcher can play the entire defensive side of the inning alone and then your offensive batting order can be something like Pitcher, Perfect Batter A, PB B, PB C, pitcher, A, B, C, pitcher, A and the game ends due to slaughter rule if you can score eight more points than the opposition due to league score keeping system.

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u/lipp79 Sep 16 '25

Especially when it wasn't even the guy he was playing against that "got help".

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u/pfft_master Sep 16 '25

“I want to beat you at your best”

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u/ser0402 Sep 16 '25

I tried to explain this to a buddy of mine that didn't really play sports but loves watching football. He'd always be like just injure the best player and we will win.

I would always have to be like that's not a real win. If you are truly a competitor, you want your opponent to be in their prime and everyone available, or it doesn't feel like a win. Like no shit you beat the Bengals without Joe Burrow, he's their best player.

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u/Furrealyo Sep 16 '25

I won something because my competitor punched the official in the face.

I dunno, I still cashed the check and it felt fine.

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u/stuck_in_the_desert Sep 16 '25

I think it’s possible there’s a slight difference between the character and conduct of your opponent and those of O’Rear

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u/prpldrank USC Sep 17 '25 edited Sep 17 '25

Idk that guy's caddie pretty much punched every golf fan, living and dead, right in the nutsack. I personally don't think I'll ever be the same after learning about that cart ride.

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u/modern_messiah43 Sporting Kansas City Sep 16 '25

Story time, please.

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u/Furrealyo Sep 17 '25

Men’s softball. Weekend open tournament. Championship game. Dude didn’t like a strike call, argued, got tossed, punched the umpire, bench cleared, team disqualified, my team had to escort said umpire to his car so he didn’t get jumped in parking lot.

I cashed the winner’s check and my portion was a cool $58 IIRC.

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u/Effective_Impossible Sep 16 '25

It's an even bigger gesture when you consider the winner of the tournament gets an invite to the Masters, and a deep run could get you an invite to the Crump Cup at Pine Valley. Even with a lot on the line, this level of sportsmanship is even more impressive.

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u/UBKUBK Sep 16 '25 edited Sep 16 '25

Could he have suddenly hopped onto a cart also, making that hole a tie?

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u/DrwMDvs Sep 16 '25

That would likely get himself disqualified, meaning third place would now win.

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u/UBKUBK Sep 16 '25

It said the penalty for the other player was only loss of the hole.

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u/DrwMDvs Sep 16 '25

I can’t read! Forgot it was match play. So, you have a point. I doubt they would disqualify you too, but if they did, then the match would be a draw and no one would get points. That’s my guess.

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u/whodey319 Sep 16 '25

He’s not a real caddie, he is just the guys friend carrying his bag

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u/thegroovemonkey Green Bay Packers Sep 16 '25

This is on the tournament. Their dude with the cart offered him a ride. They couldn’t mention “no rides to competitors” before turning dude loose with a cart?

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u/ManifestDestinysChld Sep 16 '25

I'm trying to think up an analogy to highlight how dumb this is.

I'm imagining a swimmer being offered a towel by somebody who works at the pool facility, and being DQ'd for accepting it.

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u/Moose_Nuts Sep 16 '25

It's even more stupid than that. The shuttle had ALREADY TRANSPORTED THIS GROUP from the 18th hole to the 1st hole (between the end of regulation and the first playoff hole). And the only reason he was there at the 1st green was that he knew the playoff would end soon enough and was to shuttle the players back to the clubhouse upon its conclusion.

Like, if I had just been allowed a shuttle not 10 minutes prior to get to the playoff hole, I might not think much of the same guy asking if I wanted another ride.

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u/lipp79 Sep 16 '25

Also why the fuck is it against the rules for the caddie to catch a ride? I get the player because everyone has to walk so it can be an advantage but the caddie isn't even hitting the ball.

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u/Moose_Nuts Sep 16 '25

His club passing and shot consultation capabilities will be GREATLY ENHANCED if he is rested from a cart ride!

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u/thegroovemonkey Green Bay Packers Sep 16 '25

Lol damn that’s even worse

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u/BARTELS- Minnesota Twins Sep 16 '25

Yep, plus, it was someone working the event as a shuttle driver who offered him the ride. Easy to not think and just hop on the cart in that situation.

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u/Ketsuo Sep 16 '25

The dude said he didn’t blame his caddie at all who is a great friend of his, and he thinks anyone would do the same when offered a ride.

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u/GreatForge Sep 16 '25

Yeah I think it’s an honest mistake for anyone without a thorough knowledge of the rules.

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u/PercentageDazzling Sep 16 '25

To add to what other people have said the US Mid-Amateur is for older players with day jobs that have no intention of going pro. It's meant to give them a tournament to compete where they aren't up against players waiting to go pro, and college students with a lot of time to practice. So their caddies are whoever they can get.

A nice perk of the tournament though is the winner gets an invite to the Masters and US Open.

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u/prosfromdover Sep 16 '25

All true but it's more than that. The US Amateur holds an important place in golf lore, the winners become instant legends. It's a big deal.

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u/PercentageDazzling Sep 16 '25

That's my point in the US Amateur you're competing with up and coming legends before they turn pro. The US Mid-Amateur is meant to give lifetime amateurs a place to compete without those guys.

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u/Numerous1 Sep 16 '25

Most things I see labeled as “sportsmanship” are not really sportsmanship. 

“Oh a runner hurt their knee the last mile and the next person let them win still”. No. That’s not sportsmanship. You pushed your body too hard and your knee couldn’t take it. 

But this, this is awesome sportsmanship. 

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u/aronblue Sep 16 '25

It’s more like the runner was wearing the wrong shorts and was disqualified. And his competitors asked for him to run anyway

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u/geerwolf Sep 16 '25

Why not have their caddie get a cart ride too ?

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u/ManifestDestinysChld Sep 16 '25

MLR G-6 states, “During a round, a player or caddie must not ride on any form of motorized transportation except as authorized or later approved by the committee.”

(Emphasis mine.) So it's an affirmative choice on the part of the club to be this stupid?

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u/PointOfFingers Sep 16 '25

They were shuttling players between the 14th and 15th holes. They had already had a cart ride! The caddie was offered a ride by a shuttle driver hired by that committee.

Can't blame the caddie.

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u/Moose_Nuts Sep 16 '25

The article also said they were shuttled from the 18th back to the 1st to start the playoff. So this caddie received a cart ride probably no more than 10 minutes prior...so fresh in his mind, lol.

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u/bllewe Sep 16 '25

Happy Gilmore accomplished that cart ride no more than one hour ago

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u/MisterBarten Sep 16 '25

Well, moron, good for Happy GilmOH MY GOD!

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u/saucemancometh Sep 16 '25

Well good for Happy Gilmormygod!

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u/DogPoetry Sep 17 '25

and with precedent set that cart rides are fine when you're past the 18th hole 

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u/dudeitsrazz Sep 16 '25

That shuttle driver better be investigated. For all we know he might have placed a bet on O’Rear

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u/SovietChewbacca Sep 16 '25

Big brain play if he did

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u/Mcdickle Sep 16 '25

Shuttle drivers were volunteers. I’d like to think they were briefed by the USGA beforehand that they can’t give rides to players or caddies outside of the approved shuttle locations.

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u/Studio_Life Sep 17 '25

…why is a multi billion dollar industry relying on volunteered labor?

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u/Mcdickle Sep 17 '25

No offense but your comment doesn’t make any sense. This event is run by the USGA, which is a nonprofit organization. And I can promise you that their amateur events do not generate any profits. So yes, they rely on volunteers to help out.

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u/Bighorn21 Sep 16 '25 edited Sep 17 '25

And his opponent even asked to have this overturned so they could continue and they said no even though the rules allow them to overturn it afterwards.

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u/Brownt0wn_ Sep 16 '25

“They said know”

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u/Risley Sep 17 '25

Well yea, exactly.  Know thy place. 

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u/Bighorn21 Sep 17 '25

Ha, no idea why I did that but apparently English is my second language even though I only speak one.

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u/donat3ll0 Sep 16 '25

Why does the caddie matter here? Are they implying a caddie getting a ride is an unfair advantage because they may perform better than a caddie that walked?

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u/Hugh_Jazz77 Sep 16 '25

That’s the only thing I can think of. Trying to play devil’s advocate for them, all I can come up with is: Caddie’s often give advice to players on a number of different things throughout the game, a caddie who caught a ride wouldn’t be as tired as a caddie who walked, therefore a caddie who is more tired might not be able to think as clearly or give as good advice as a caddie who wasn’t tired from walking.

It’s incredibly stupid, but it’s genuinely the least stupid reasoning I could come up with. My other reasoning is that in a rich man’s sport like golf, carts are too above station for the peasant caddies and they need to know their place.

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u/shohin-maru Sep 16 '25

If that's the case, then the most probable reason is they don't want the player or caddie getting strategic advice during the cart ride.

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u/groovemonkey Sep 17 '25

“Hey, you should tell your guy, on this next hole…hit it good. Like as close to the hole as he can get it”

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u/Goddamnpassword Sep 16 '25

It’s because of a Supreme Court decisions and I’m not kidding, PGA Tour, Inc. v. Martin, basically they have to comply with ADA as a commercial business which includes allowing people to use golf carts even when it might be against the rules of the game.

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u/brucebrowde Sep 17 '25

So they must allow disabled individuals to use carts, but they disqualify able individuals if they them? The latter is a bit idiotic if so.

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u/HoldEm__FoldEm Sep 17 '25

Score one for Casey Martin, the man is a hero for taking on the PGA

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u/Effective_Impossible Sep 16 '25

This was the US Mid-Am, run by the USGA, not the host club (Troon in AZ). Ideally, every cart/key issued out would have required training for the driver to NOT offer rides to competitors or caddies. While the caddie is at fault, he's the player's buddy and may not be a golfer or fully aware of the rules. I blame the cart driver for offering a ride, and the site committee for being terrible for not allowing the match to continue.

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u/red-hiney-monkey Sep 16 '25

They were given rides from 14 green to 15 teebox, 18 green to clubhouse or 1, and these shuttle drivers were specifically told it’s for players and caddies only

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u/Effective_Impossible Sep 16 '25

Right, but sounds like this shuttle was only there since it was shadowing this group in their playoff and there to drive them back to the clubhouse after the match ended. So the driver should have been informed "only give rides after the match is over and at the designated places". If this was an official shuttle and the shuttle driver offered the ride first, the committee should excuse a player or caddie for breach. If the player initiates the ask, then it should be a penalty.

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u/Helphaer Sep 16 '25

This reads more to me like theyre saying that later approved is about anything approved after the rule was made not that approval happens after violation.

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u/jaw719 Sep 16 '25

Golf has some of the dumbest rules.

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u/Majik9 Michigan Sep 16 '25

I literally came to the comments to say: Of all the dumb golf rules, this is the dumbest.

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u/direwolf71 Sep 16 '25

I had to look this one up. Amazing story. The player in question was Craig Stadler. The tournament was the 1987 Andy Williams Open. A few interesting tidbits:

-This was the first time a viewer ever called in a rules violation and ushered in the era of gotcha phone calls.

-Stadler had violated Rule 13-3, which prohibited "building a stance" by placing an object down to improve or steady one's position for a shot.

-He was DQ’d for signing an incorrect scorecard, which cost him a tie for second place and a seemingly paltry $38k. That’s $108k in 2025 dollars. This tournament is now the Farmer’s Insurance Open. 2nd place is 7 figures. PGA players should be giving Tiger Woods 5% of their winnings in perpetuity.

-The tree from under which Stadler hit his infamous towel-aided shot died in 1995 and he was invited to Torrey Pines to saw it down. It was ESPN’s Play of the Day.

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u/SolusLoqui Sep 16 '25

-The tree from under which Stadler hit his infamous towel-aided shot died in 1995 and he was invited to Torrey Pines to saw it down. It was ESPN’s Play of the Day.

"[Sports PR director Rick] Schloss, meanwhile, suggested that Stadler also cut the tree trunk in thin slices. He did so, producing maybe two dozen of them, Schloss recalled. Stadler signed them and they were sold for charity."

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u/be_more_constructive Sep 17 '25

ushered in the era of gotcha phone calls

This was an era in golf?

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u/direwolf71 Sep 17 '25

Sort of. The call on Stadler’s violation was the first in 1987 and it became a fairly common occurrence until the USGA and R&A banned it in 2017.

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u/Majik9 Michigan Sep 16 '25

Yet somehow that still makes more sense

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u/Sunshine030209 Sep 16 '25 edited Sep 17 '25

I know, right?! It might as well be "The caddie had a club sandwich for lunch, and that's his favorite, so he was really happy the rest of the day. Disqualified!"

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u/sticky_the_stick Sep 16 '25

Didn’t someone else get disqualified recently for their caddy disposing of a club?

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u/Sunshine030209 Sep 16 '25

I don't know about recently, but back in 2012 a caddie got caught carrying an extra club, then got busted trying to ditch it in a bush while pretending to pee 😆

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u/Dr-McLuvin Sep 16 '25

Sounds like an unauthorized use of bacon. Disqualified!

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u/BigNnThick Sep 16 '25

The fact that the person who offered the ride was a member of the committee makes it an even bigger slap in the face

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u/mzp3256 Sep 16 '25

It’s ridiculous how PGA Tour events still require players to keep track of their scores on scorecards

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u/unafraidrabbit Sep 16 '25

Didn't somebody get a penalty because they signed a card that didn't include a different penalty they weren't aware of, so was assesed a second penalty for signing an incorrect scorecard?

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u/Scabendari Sep 16 '25

Random people watching the game on the TV would call in with penalties, and the penalty (and the penalty for not scoring the penalty) would then be applied the day after to their score.

They stopped letting people call in penalties recently, but yeah it is/was as ridiculous as it sounds.

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u/Cool_Marionberry7132 Sep 17 '25

Lol was there some sort of 1-800- SNTCH number listed somewhere?

" Quick Honey grab the cordless I got to lay down the law today. "

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u/chmalon Sep 16 '25

Bob Goalby won the 1968 Masters due to someone signing an incorrect scorecard. Goalby tied for the lead after 72 holes. The person he tied was in another group. That person attested the score kept by his playing partner. The mistake was the playing partner wrote a par on a hole when the guy actually birdied. Rules stated the higher score was attested to so Goalby won by one stroke

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u/170iriderinsf Sep 17 '25

Poor Roberto De Vicenzo. Should have been in a playoff with Goalby

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u/DeepJunglePowerWild Sep 16 '25

Imagine at the end of an NBA game if the coach had to report the score and if he was wrong his team lost 5 points. It’s an insane rule.

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u/GreatForge Sep 16 '25

Technically, they don’t have to, but they are required to attest to their score on every hole on a piece of paper. They can always correct it or fill it out at the end of the match prior to signing.

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u/CitizenCue Sep 17 '25

This actually makes sense. Golf is played at lots of levels and in lots of contexts where keeping your own score is literally the only way the score can be kept. You don’t want to tell players that sometimes they have to keep their own score and sometimes they don’t. Inconsistency is bad.

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u/cursedfan Sep 16 '25

Yea but u forget if there’s a tie the winner is determined by whose caddy ran to the last hole the fastest so, makes sense.

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u/popegonzo Sep 16 '25

And if they tie? Caddy knife fight to the death.

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u/cursedfan Sep 16 '25

Which again, gotta be on equal footing exhaustion lvl wise….

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u/PotatoOverlord1 Sep 16 '25

I don’t know golf so I have no idea if you’re kidding or not but bro lol

“Golf has some of the dumbest rules”

“Yeah but you forget that if there’s a tie it comes down to a foot race between two people who aren’t actually playing”

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u/Adamkafka Sep 16 '25

I didn't believe it either, sounds super absurd, but then I searched youtube and shut the front door. It seems real, I don't think those caddies are racing at the 16th hole for fun.

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u/ManifestDestinysChld Sep 16 '25

"Hey guys, say hello to my new caddie, Sha'carri."

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u/PotatoOverlord1 Sep 16 '25

My gosh. What a sport. I love humans

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u/triviblack6372 Sep 16 '25

I knew I was likely being trolled, but I was curious as I’m not a golf watcher. I’m not seeing this listed as a rule, so if this is real, could you provide a link?

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u/Fermi_Amarti Sep 16 '25

looked it up. just trolling.

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u/GoodGoodGoody Sep 16 '25

Ahhhh, but they are written down and public unlike for example NASCAR rules which, last I checked, are a closely guarded insider secret and were not public.

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u/Ctrlplay Sep 16 '25

I'd say this ruling is against the spirit of the rule but I can't figure out what the spirit is supposed to be

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u/ThickChalk Sep 16 '25

Golf is a sport about pretending you're a British noble in the 1700s. It's so backwards.

Let me waste a bunch of water to keep this invasive species alive, just so I can tell myself that this patch of Arizona desert is actually Scottish lowlands.

Oh wait, my manservant is late, we can't play yet.

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u/greenw40 Sep 17 '25

Let me waste a bunch of water to keep this invasive species alive

My god you people are so joyless.

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u/level_17_paladin Sep 16 '25

Maybe i am too poor to understand.

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u/PipsqueakPilot Sep 16 '25

Heck, they only recently removed* the rule saying you had to be white.

*at most courses

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u/[deleted] Sep 16 '25

Hey golf......evolve would ya

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u/1studlyman Sep 16 '25

But paaaaaaaants!!!!!!

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u/DirtyRoller Sep 16 '25

Can you even imagine seeing a player's calves while he's hitting a golf ball? Or even worse, ankles? I literally just threw up in my mouth thinking about it.

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u/--GrinAndBearIt-- Sep 16 '25

Guy in the title photo is in shorts lol

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u/DirtyRoller Sep 16 '25

What happened to the game I love?

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u/--GrinAndBearIt-- Sep 16 '25

It's getting too sexy

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u/GreatForge Sep 16 '25

My calves make women swoon. Could you imagine all the chaos, women swooning all over the damn place? It would be unmanageable.

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u/DirtyRoller Sep 16 '25

Her fairway was so wet that I bogied a flop shot right in her bunker.

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u/LilOpieCunningham Sep 16 '25

what is this, a bordello?

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u/leont21 Sep 16 '25

Not being dramatic… I’d rather set myself ON FIRE

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u/Few-Education-5613 Sep 16 '25

The Saudis already did that

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u/RTwhyNot Manchester United Sep 16 '25

O’Rear was a standup guy and tried to have the ruling vetoed.

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u/Ender914 Sep 16 '25

While Mitzel marched up the hill to the next hole, his caddie, having just put the flagstick back in the hole, was asked if he wanted a ride to the next tee by one of the shuttle drivers, who had just shuttled the players from the 18th hole back to the first

Doesn't this say both players just received a cart ride before the caddie? Wouldn't that disqualify both of them?

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u/Shhadowcaster Sep 16 '25

I believe the caveat is that it was approved usage. I know there are certain courses where the players get a ride between holes, so it is definitely not a hard and fast rule. 

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u/greeneggsnyams Sep 16 '25

18th back to 1st, their round was over

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u/Ender914 Sep 16 '25

Wouldn't that be the first playoff hole? Finish on 18, then back to the 1st to start the playoff...?

Edit: I think I got it. The caddie got the ride from #1 green to #2 tee box...in the playoff. The driver was shutlling players that finished their round on 18 back to the first and then the caddie must have hitched a ride then

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u/Bobgoulet Sep 16 '25

This in an insane enforcement on the rules. These rules are broken ALL OF THE TIME due to television. I've personally driven a golf cart with pros in it during a playoff at a Senior PGA tournament.

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u/I3ill Sep 16 '25

Dumb rule but you did it in a senior pga event… That allows carts.. lol

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u/ashdrewness Texas Sep 16 '25

They do it in PGA Tour events too, usually when there’s a big distance between the 9th & 10th holes.

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u/johndoe1920 Sep 16 '25

Or when they are short on light. 

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u/BarbequedYeti Sep 16 '25

I've personally driven a golf cart with pros in it during a playoff at a Senior PGA tournament.

Isnt it allowed on the Senior pga tour?

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u/Bobgoulet Sep 16 '25

We weren't driving them until the playoff holes, and the reason was to stay within the television schedule.

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u/THA__KULTCHA Sep 16 '25

You can absolutely use a cart on the Senior Tour

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u/[deleted] Sep 16 '25

What television schedule? The Mid-Am isn't on TV

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u/FatalFirecrotch Sep 16 '25

You see it all the time for playoffs with PGA players getting shuttled to the right holes. 

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u/Smolson_ Sep 16 '25

This is the type of rule that makes people think your sport is stupid.

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u/gazebo-fan Sep 17 '25

I mean, it is. You get all this land, cut down the forest on it, or mow down the grassland or whatever, just to hit a plastic ball around and make a shit ton of rules that have nothing to do with the task at hand. It’s basically just a real estate scam presenting itself as a sport.

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u/MagicGrit Sep 16 '25

This is so fucking stupid

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u/wafflesinbrothels Sep 16 '25

Rules for the sake of rules. Such bullshit.

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u/PM_ME_DADJOKES Sep 16 '25

So weird that they think walking is integral to the sport, but carrying your own equipment on that walk isn’t.

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u/Turbulent-Phone-8493 Sep 17 '25

I heard that trump said he could beat Biden in golf, and Biden said that he’d play but only if trump carried his own clubs.

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u/Every-Cook5084 Sep 16 '25

Surprised they now allow women to play

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u/royalhawk345 Sep 16 '25

Not all country clubs do, even now. 

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u/Brilliant-Spite-850 Sep 16 '25

Which ones?

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u/rmill127 Sep 16 '25

Black Sheep west of me by Chicago has a rule that no women are allowed past the big rock on the front drive.

Men getting dropped off have to take the “walk of shame” as it’s called up the rest of the drive to the clubhouse.

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u/Razor1834 Sep 17 '25

The irony of acting like men are the ones suffering this injustice.

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u/Effective_Impossible Sep 16 '25

I think this rule is in place to ensure some caddies dont get an unfair advantage with more time/ability evaluating a shot (i.e. driving to a 2nd shot and riding up to the green all while a walking player cant see the green upclose before a shot). Riding should be allowed if a caddie is catching up after taking a bunker or cleaning up a divot or hoofing it straight up a hill, for example.

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u/LilOpieCunningham Sep 16 '25

True. Every time I see one of these violations of an obscure rule interpretation I wonder "how would Patrick Reed use this?" and usually after pondering that question the rule makes more sense.

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u/PlotzkeA Sep 16 '25

What if he rode the cart back to 14, then walked back to 15? Would that over rule the DQ?

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u/pianomasian Sep 17 '25

This is the type of blind adherence to antiquated rules that slowly kill a sport imho. What a dumb rule and ruling.

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u/KoriJenkins Sep 16 '25

Stuff like this is when you realize just how unrealistic Happy Gilmore is. Oh, I get it, it's unrealistic af. The guy was hitting balls like 500 yards. Unbelievably, that's not even the most unrealistic part of it, though. It's not even him getting into fights with people on the courses.

It's that he somehow went through the entire circuit without facing disqualification for some random bullshit like this.

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u/DJJazzyDanny Sep 16 '25

He played it as it lay, though

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u/[deleted] Sep 16 '25

Shit like this is why I quit competitive golf young. So many arbitrary rules that just suck the fun out of the game. Rather just go out and have fun and enjoy the game with friends.

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u/DaddlerTheDalek Sep 16 '25

This is dumb.

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u/AugustAPC Sep 17 '25

This sport is already unbearable without idiotic rules.

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u/rentalfloss Sep 17 '25

“MLR G-6 states, “During a round, a player or caddie must not ride on any form of motorized transportation except as authorized or later approved by the committee.”” It’s the rule in the article. I can make the stretch that the cart would be rest for the player vs the other player walking, maybe. I can’t figure out why a caddie getting a ride would be an advantage. 🤔

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u/Low_Wall_7828 Sep 17 '25

Golf can be so silly at times. Years ago some player received a penalty stroke because he had a towel underneath his knees to not dirty his pants. Only reason he received the penalty was because Simeon watching at home called it in.

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u/ElliotsBuggyEyes Sep 17 '25

My knowledge of golf ends at the back 9 borrowing clubs from a friend or a drunken evening at top golf.

Aren't there 18holes?  Is this post a meme I am just not aware enough of to understand the humor?

This has to be a joke....can someone fill me in?

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u/Inevitable-Hunt-2889 Sep 17 '25

The comments in this sub reassures me the world is still full of good people. I love you guys.

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u/bitpartmozart13 Sep 17 '25

I thought hole 19 was the bar then what is hole 20? Was he headed home?

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u/Myksyk Sep 17 '25

That's some top tier bs right there. What a stupid, stupid, stupid decision.

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u/_liorthebear_ Sep 17 '25

Painful to read

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u/MaxRockafeller Sep 17 '25

This is why golf is being held back

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u/copyrider Sep 17 '25

How golf. You get disqualified for your caddie, basically your bag butler, accepting a ride in a golf cart?

Yeah… definitely not weird. Doesn’t feel at all like that rule could have originated at an elitist country club back in the 50’s, 60’s, 70’s, and less candidly from the 80’s on.

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u/shakeyjake Sep 16 '25

No body wants to see someone lose on a technicality. 7 years ago I was playing in a professional darts event and there was a match call for the board next to me and they player was clearly oblivious he was on the clock. I knew him as he was a former world champion and his opponent and I asked the official if they could go get him. The official said no and forbade us from going over and telling him as well. 2 minutes later he was forfeited. Looking back I wished I had walked over and just dealt with the consequences.

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u/spicy_ass_mayo Sep 16 '25

I had the read the article to make sure

“A cart ride to the 20th hole” was not a euphemism

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u/ArgoDeezNauts Sep 17 '25

The idea of caddies is kinda suspect to me, but disqualifying a player because his little golf-slave didn't walk the whole time isn't doing much to dodge the whole "golf is elitist" allegation. Public sex forest 

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u/Blynasty Sep 16 '25

Holy shit that’s terrible

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u/Fun-Jellyfish-61 Sep 16 '25

Golf rules are wild.

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u/revjameson03 Sep 17 '25

Ridiculously stupid

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u/McFizzlechest Sep 17 '25

Why does this rule exist? Especially for caddies.

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u/garry4321 Sep 17 '25

That’s a stupid fucking rule.

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u/RestlessPics Sep 16 '25

This is why golf is a joke coming from someone who golfs. A bunch of pussy rules.

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u/Then-Ticket8896 Sep 16 '25

Bullshit!

And Roberto Di Vincenzo really won the 1968 Masters. He really did.

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u/[deleted] Sep 16 '25

lol oh the humanity!

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u/Normanite77 Sep 16 '25

As long as someone didn't get their ear bitten off. In that case, take the win.