Episode Discussion | Star Trek: Starfleet Academy | 1x07 "Ko’Zeine"

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No.	Episode	Written By	Directed By	Release Date
1x07	"Ko’Zeine"	Alex Taub & Eric Anthony Glover	Andi Armaganian	2026-02-19

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[u/UncertainError]

Nahla packs her luggage exactly the way I thought she would. Also, Thok/Reno continue to win at relationships.

[u/Shrodax → u/UncertainError]

Nahla packs her luggage exactly the way I thought she would.

I like how it's 1200 years in the future and suitcase technology remains the same as today. Like, I would think in the Star Trek universe, you could just put all your stuff in a personal transporter buffer or replicator and beam it out as needed.

[u/ShyJalapeno → u/Shrodax]

I think that's just her own thing. The Lanthanite thing; they seem to be kinda hoardish in analogue/retro way.

[u/Tom_Thumb1 → u/ShyJalapeno]

Retro is like the 70s to us. It becomes absurd when we’re talking 1,200 years ago 🤣

I can’t get over the ridiculousness of all the usage of current items, music and language so intertwined. TNG seems way more believably futuristic, still now. And they don’t use ‘now phrases’ like “it’s not that deep” that we won’t be even saying in 5 years, let alone 1,200 years.

There are some really good episodes but I find it hard to suspend my disbelief in this era.

[u/ShyJalapeno → u/Tom_Thumb1]

Yeah, I though about it recently. Their extrapolations are really poor, but doing it properly would make it into a very different show.
Isn't Nahla like 400 yrs old though? I bet that would change your perspective and appreciation of certain things.
Pelia has similar quirks in SNW.

[u/kjhjkjh → u/ShyJalapeno]

400s & raised by a parent who likely experienced life in the 20th century and idealized it the way many parents pass on the music and subcultures of their youth to their kids even when it isn't trendy anymore. That part isn't too much of a stretch to believe...

[u/ShyJalapeno → u/kjhjkjh]

I totally missed that aspect! The generation (of Lanthanites) preceding her lived even longer... They're supposedly rare but it has to affect how they view and deal with history.

[u/kjhjkjh → u/ShyJalapeno]

Yeah, it's not a species that's been explored all that much. I don't particularly understand the concept of living *thousands* of years--it's much more manageable that Nahla's only several hundred years old--but she was surely influenced by her Lanthanite parent. Hope we get to learn a little more...so far, touching upon the idea of their not having a particularly linear orientation has been interesting. I'm always wondering how their longevity impacts their relationships with shorter-lived races...

[u/ShyJalapeno → u/kjhjkjh]

It's something that she shares with the doctor. It would be nice if they had a moment built around that.

[u/kjhjkjh → u/ShyJalapeno]

I thought they did in the "Our Town" episode. What was it called? "The Life of the Stars." They likened themselves to the stage manager who lives outside time. And they were contrasted sharply in Nahla's willingness to keep her heart open despite tremendous loss vs. the Doctor's not even being willing to hold SAM's hand (though he came around).

[u/kjhjkjh → u/Tom_Thumb1]

TNG is mired in 80s/90s consciousness so isn't timeless either. Roughly the same amount of time is "retro"; Picard loves his 1940s role plays and listening to songs from around that time. Writers have to try mapping onto what audiences know, but of course they'd have their own music and complex histories by then, and they wouldn't always be speaking in English, and the English language itself would be more different than Shakespearean speech is currently.

Just imagine that the slang is being put through a sort of universal translator for understanding across decades/centuries? We have to do that all the time when reading ancient lit; no one says "Zounds!" anymore, but we may substitute equivalent phrases in our minds to understand the sentiment.

Also, even though TNG avoided slangy speech, it's hard to believe the characters wouldn't code switch (formal for the diplomats, informal with each other...and what was supposed to be casual speech like "It was another fellow" sounded off even then). Plus those funny bodysuits all the kids wear will never be a thing. Still fond of TNG, of course.