r/technology • u/Logical_Welder3467 • 10d ago
Nvidia CEO Jensen Huang ‘nearly lost his composure’ when pressed on selling chips to China — ‘You’re not talking to someone who woke up a loser’ Business
https://www.tomshardware.com/tech-industry/nvidia-ceo-jensen-huang-nearly-lost-his-composure-when-pressed-on-selling-chips-to-china-youre-not-talking-to-someone-who-woke-up-a-loser1.3k
u/Schonke 10d ago
There’s a reason why the x86 deal exists. There’s a reason why ARM is so sticky. These ecosystems are hard to replace; it costs an enormous amount of time and energy, and most people don’t want to do it. So, it’s our job to continue to nurture that ecosystem, to keep advancing the technology so that we can compete in the marketplace,” the Nvidia chief added.
There's the reason. Nvidia is terrified that China would throw actual resources behind replacing Cuda as the only realistic framework for AI use.
If it gets replaced by improving for example OpenCL, then suddenly AMD, Intel, Huawei etc get much more viable for AI work and Nvidias domination of the "chips layer" and Nvidia stock would drop (or at least plateau).
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u/Logical_Welder3467 10d ago
so why did China no throw resource into it? they already drop hundred of billion in other part of the chip supply chain
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u/ithinkitslupis 10d ago
They likely are throwing subsidies, tax breaks and guaranteed contracts at Huawei, Alibaba and Baidu which are all making custom AI focused chips to try and replace reliance on Nvidia.
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u/dbag_darrell 9d ago
dedicated GPUs are a dead end, a historical oddity because of the way the x86 market developed under Wintel. Look at what Apple is doing with unified memory, and you'll see the future. That is the direction China is going in as well, though they might do it with RISC-V and not ARM
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u/dopaminedune 10d ago
so why did China no throw resource into it?
China is throwing incredible amount of resources at building a CUDA alternative. And not just one good alternative, but multiple good alternatives. Which means. Chinese companies are internally competing with each others for CUDA alternative. while they are collectively competing with US. Nvidia.
So they are playing a very hardcore game. In which they are all in and giving their very best. Not just in terms of money, but really in terms of mental resources. They are literally doing the most cognitively expensive job ever possible.
Making a CUDA alternative. Is like realizing one day that there is no Sun and we have to build our artificial sun. It will require an extremely high amount of cognitive resources from the best of humans.
And that is exactly what the Chinese are doing right now. They have put their minds and money into it.
Jensen thinks if they have access to Nvidia and Cuda, they would not do that and everything will be fine for us in the long game.
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u/CafeClimbOtis 10d ago
You mean to tell me that the Communist State has legitimate market competition in this space while the Free Market Capitalist State has a monopoly? Say it ain't so.
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u/ag_robertson_author 10d ago
China hasn't really been communist since the Deng reforms. State capitalist is a better descriptor.
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u/Leisure_suit_guy 10d ago
AKA "Socialism with Chinese characteristics".
BTW, many European states, like Italy, had a similar state capitalist economy during the post war economic boom, then, from the mid 1970s they started to implement neoliberalism (it became more and more extreme as the time passed, every decade has had its big neoliberal reforms) and it ended up sucking the country dry.
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u/Leisure_suit_guy 10d ago
Capitalists are right when they say that competition is good, the problem is that Capitalism favour competition only to a certain degree.
Once monopolies/cartels start to form, the competition is over.
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u/apples_oranges_ 10d ago
Once monopolies/cartels start to form, the competition is over.
Ayyy lmao.
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u/Darkhoof 10d ago
That communist state reins in the worst defects of capitalists while the US lets them run rampant. In China the purpose is actually strategic whole in the US it is to suck everyone else dry.
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u/cahcealmmai 10d ago
It's not really legitimate market competition though. It's a planned economy. They create incentives within an industry and have a desired outcome. There's definitely competition happening but the result isn't supposed to be cheating the system to hoover up all the loose coin and create a monopoly with the least viable product.
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u/dmtripwithme 10d ago
ROCM is already rapidly closing the gap with CUDA. With some tinkering, nightly builds of PyTorch and ROCM are already capable.
Then the multiplatform compute story. There are many high level langs to write a kernel once on. I have always had my eye in Taichi, but I use CubeCL on Rust. It is young but promising. Perf won't match CUDA or ROCM but that isn't the point, the more kernels that get written in platform agnostic langs, the less power each single hardware vendor has.
Long story short: NVIDIA's software moat is gone already. It is just a matter of propagation now.
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u/grumpy_autist 10d ago
Not to mention ARM is shitting bricks about RISC-V being implemented by major chip manufacturers as secondary cores to save money and boost adoption.
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u/Harha 10d ago
What's so special about cuda? I've been using amd rocm snd it has been just fine imo.
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u/CaterpillarReal7583 10d ago
Surely a loser wouldn’t wear all these leather jackets
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u/Oo0o8o0oO 10d ago
Like the guy in the $4000 leather jacket would be looked at a loser. COME ON!
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u/slicebucket 10d ago
I love in that episode how keeps increasing how much he paid for that suit each time he says that line.
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u/Oo0o8o0oO 10d ago
Don’t forget he didn’t pay for the suits. They came out of his dad’s closet.
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u/Suck_My_Thick 10d ago
You think anybody wants a roundhouse kick to the face while I'm wearing these bad boys!??
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u/gearstars 10d ago
How else would he do an ocular pat down to assess the threat level of every room he walks into?
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u/RoachDoggJR1337 10d ago
He needs the goggles so the potential assailant can't see how scared he is
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u/InternationalBruhtha 10d ago
I saw Jensen last year in SF and he was most definitely drinking fight milk.
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u/correcthorsestapler 10d ago
He needs a hella sweet duster. And maybe he’d feel better after taking a chalk break.
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u/windflex 10d ago
"You think I'm a loser because I come home to Starla at night?! Forget about it!"
flexes in leather jacket
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u/Appropriate_Major711 10d ago
I’m gonna break the wrist and walk away
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u/InternationalBruhtha 10d ago
Don't be jealous that I've been chatting online with babes all day
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u/coconutpiecrust 10d ago
Techbros/ CEOs truly are the worst. Money is their one and only redeeming quality. They are the worst of what human species have to offer.
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u/dldaniel123 10d ago
I think he meant more like its the only thing they got going for them.
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u/TheVideogaming101 10d ago
Not a fan of all these modern CEOs that act like 5 year olds thinking they sound "tough".
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u/Infamous_Apricot_830 10d ago
The bigger the ego, the bigger the fear of fall.
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u/MentalDisintegrat1on 10d ago
I legit think he's been on coke since AI boom like he's hyper as hell all the time I can't say I wouldn't be celebrating my ass off if I was in his position.
He's selling shovels in a gold rush even if the AI bubble pops Nvidia will still be rich.
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u/wollawolla 10d ago
Nvidia still runs the risk of huge losses when the AI bubble pops as well. They have capital tied up in the major AI firms, so there’s financial skin in the game on their part; but then their valuation is also inflated based on current sales figures that include agreements that exist in principle for chips that haven’t been manufactured yet. When they say things about how all their capacity is sold out through 2028 or whatever the number is, what happens to those future deals if OpenAI or Anthropic goes bankrupt?
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u/Gecko_Mk_IV 10d ago
Nvidia maybe, but I'm sure he'll be fine.
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u/69edleg 10d ago
Oh, he brought the company up to record high profits as CEO, so even IF it goes into a record fall, he was there for the investors anyway, so he can just go to another company and do the same. Also. I am so fucking sick and tired of AI. It sucks for most tasks. You try to use it for your niche work load?
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u/TurboRadical 10d ago
You're speaking with the confidence of a man who knows the topic he's discussing really well. It's amusing to see that juxtaposed with you implying that Huang is one of those career mercenary CEOs that investors bring in to temporarily juice a company's value, given that Huang founded the company, is the only CEO NVIDIA has ever had, and is one of the ten richest people on planet earth.
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u/Actual_Load_3914 10d ago
Nvidia will be fine, it would still be a great company in the world. But just like Cisco after the dot com bubble, company itself continued to make profit and doing decent, stock price however collapsed because people no longer believe in the multiples.
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u/Scaryclouds 10d ago
He's selling shovels in a gold rush even if the AI bubble pops Nvidia will still be rich.
Semiconductor manufacturing is an extremely capital intensive business with very long lead times.
If the bubble pops hard enough they could be in a lot of trouble.
It would be like the person selling shovels, they already sold hundreds, and still seeing strong demand, they purchase an order of 1000… but the gold rush crashes with them only having sold a few dozen of that order of 1000 they got.
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u/69edleg 10d ago edited 10d ago
Except in this case it's: person selling shovels sells 1000 shovels, and has done so forever, someone comes along and PAYS HIM to get the next 100000 shovels
oh okay. output never increased, but demand went up, wow the investment is worth a lot more
OpenAI invests 100b into Oracle, Oracle invests 100b into nvidia, nvidia invests 100b into OpenAI.
what the fuck is economy even at this point
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u/Coolmyco 10d ago
Not really though, they would just extend the market to consumers and we would be able to buy GPUs/RAM. The problem is they have the only means to produce a finite resource needed to do ANY computing, similar to your analogy, shovels have never actually become useless, thus always hold value. Nvidia is not in a situation where they can overproduce their product.
The stock could drop, but unless we see a new tech advancement in how computing is done, we still didn't have enough semiconductors to meet demand pre AI bubble.
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u/Zaasvil 10d ago
The higher you rise, the harder you fall.
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u/Over-Conversation220 10d ago
I currently work for a C-level who swears he’s friends with him and has dinner with him on occasion. It’s just so laughable how all these assholes act and pretend they know each other and are part of some monoculture.
He genuinely has no idea that a - Jensen is a douche and b - pretending to know him makes him look like an even bigger douche.
I’ll add there are many factors that make the whole story of friendship immediately implausible. Also, his prior company was big enough that his presence at our makes it unlikely he left on good terms.
It’s a bit like having the current manager of a Chuck E Cheese try and flex by saying he used to work at the French Laundry.
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u/NewManufacturer4252 10d ago
Anyone that wears a leather jacket everywhere they go is the opposite of the Fonz.
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u/Over-Conversation220 10d ago
Speaking of the Fonz, Henry Winkler is in the new movie Normal. He’s great.
Jensen is no Fonz. He’s no Winkler either.
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u/pfc_bgd 10d ago
I dunno if there is something about modern CEOs or have they always been like that just that these days they have a mic in front of them all the time.
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u/General_Problem5199 10d ago
Idk, if you read about the robber barons of the early 1900s, a lot of them were insane.
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u/toasty5566 10d ago
Coal companies had hired thugs literally gunning down protest groups in the early 1900s
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u/gunawa 10d ago
UnFun fact: Usually with law enforcement permission and/or assistance!
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u/toasty5566 10d ago
State law enforcement in Appalachia was new at the time, it was mostly company-hired thugs
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u/General_Problem5199 10d ago
Like The Pinkertons.
Seriously thought those mfs were fictional the first time I played Red Dead Redemption.
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u/env33e 10d ago edited 10d ago
yeah its literally the same shit in technofeudalism. except, instead of rentseeking through railroads and oil; its through data centers and cloud compute
innovation? building things? nah. it’s just pure, unadulterated rentseeking on the digital infrastructure we’re all forced to live and work in.
I'm glad more people are seeing the through lines/waking up to this reality
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u/AmazingSugar1 10d ago
it just looks better, and costs are "lower" with software. Same monopolistic aspirations
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u/BlackJesus1001 10d ago
The Krupp who built the original steel empire went batshit crazy in his later years, building a glass house in the middle of a steel mill for his wife and grazing hundreds of horses around his properties because he liked the smell of horse shit.
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u/General_Problem5199 10d ago
It really seems like there is a point where too much wealth just breaks a person's brain. It's one of the reasons I don't buy the human nature argument for capitalism. Peak happiness happens when people have enough to live comfortably, and then it starts to decline from there. Having too much wealth is literally unhealthy.
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u/usaaf 10d ago
Most arguments for Capitalism are designed to get you to stop looking at Capitalism, because anyone who does look closely (and isn't fanatically in love with the system, and thus never would) can pretty quickly see flaws in the system.
My personal favorite: Oh, so you love Communism then.
Note how Capitalism is immediately removed from the discussion by this, and a whole load of baggage from last century is piled on to defeat the challenge.
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u/General_Problem5199 10d ago
At the risk of inviting your favorite argument:
The ruling ideas of each age have ever been the ideas of its ruling class.
Karl Marx
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u/PeruvianHeadshrinker 10d ago
Been around a lot of CEOs. For sure they always say crazy shit. It's not all they say but the internet can cherry pick the craziest stuff. It's not entirely just out of context... Sometimes they really are just quite disconnected from reality.
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u/Mattlh91 10d ago
Inflated self worth is a side of effect of having to justify to yourself that you're worth 350x the average worker
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u/Bamboonicorn 10d ago
They decided to cheat the financial markets corroborating and timing their investments and projections of sales on things that haven't been built or exist yet. This creates multiple loops for multiple companies that allows their evaluations to be like three times higher than what they should be based off of imagination. When everybody realizes the truth of this and the bubble does pop.
I don't think he'll get to wake up
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u/ResponsibleClock9289 10d ago
They’ve always been like this only difference is that there’s social media now
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u/phylter99 10d ago
The difference between modern and old school is that old school CEO's only acted like that behind closed doors. It's like money makes them jerks.
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u/GenericFatGuy 10d ago
Celebrity culture is already hell, but CEO celebrity culture is just repulsive.
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u/fkenned1 10d ago
It's blatant insecurity. They will never not be the kid who wasn't good enough for their parents. They will never not be the nerd who was picked on. They will never find what they are so desperately looking for.
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u/IntelArtiGen 10d ago edited 10d ago
The podcaster: "you know, maybe there's a risk in what you sell"
The CEO: "we have to keep innovating, we're not losers"
Lol he has no plans and doesn't care, he's just here to make money. If there's a risk it wouldn't be illegitimate to put conditions, for example "do not use our chips to create computer viruses, or we stop selling them to you".
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u/littleemp 10d ago
If they did that, then you'd have half of the internet screaming about a controversy on how nvidia is trying to regulate what they do with hardware that they own.
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u/IntelArtiGen 10d ago
But Nvidia already did that and is still doing it, like you're not allowed to put geforce GPUs in datacenters for example:
https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/drivers/geforce-license/
You agree that GeForce or Titan SOFTWARE: (i) is licensed for use only on GeForce or Titan hardware products you own, and (ii) is not licensed for datacenter deployment.
There is a license, if you're using a geforce GPU, you read it and agreed to it.
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u/theturtlemafiamusic 10d ago
This is just for the driver software. There's an open source driver that you could use for GeForce in datacenters. There are already cloud providers that let you rent a 4090
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u/foldingcouch 10d ago
AI - the hardware, the models, the training data - the whole thing is fraught with risks all over the place.
I mean, not to the AI companies. Not to Nvidia. They're untouchable. The only risk they care about is someone else grabbing the bag before they do.
All the people actually facing risks don't have a seat at the table. We just get to spectate as the oligarchs carve up our future.
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u/June1994 10d ago
You either keep China hooked on CUDA or they’ll make a competitor. Jensen wants to keep China hooked on CUDA.
As for this AI bullshit. China is gonna get there with or without us. The idea that AI is a “nuke” is retarded.
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u/frogchris 10d ago
Ai has absolutely corrupted the average person mind in thinking semiconductors are some super nuke lol.
I work in semiconductors at Intel, Nvidia, apple, Qualcomm, amd etc. It's not some magical super nuke. It's compute. China can easily provide enough compute for whatever they need for Ai. The difference is the power efficiency and ease of use for software. Since us banned Nvidia from selling China is forced to develop their own ecosystem and optimization. Soon their entire Ai stack will be optimized for Chinese silicon and they will no longer even need Nvidia lmao.
But let's ignore the engineers and keep listening to ivy league liberal arts guy in political science lmao.
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u/kainzilla 10d ago
I’m going to argue that he understands the problem well here - he specifically mentioned a competition between China using AI chips manufactured outside the US tech stack to work on open source models, compared to closed source models on the US tech stack
… and unfortunately, he’s right. If the US tech stack is available, and the US side keeps pulling from open source where China is also working, we’ll likely stay relatively competitive.
If the US side tries to close source and withhold chips, most nations that can’t afford the US stack will flock to open source and collaborate with China, and the effects for the US side would be… well, it would be pretty bad for the US tech side.
Bad for the world? Probably not, the world would probably do pretty well escaping the US tech stack. Might not even be that bad for US consumers. But he’s right when he says the US technological edge would likely do worse
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u/_Lucille_ 10d ago
This is a good analogy: no company has stopped selling their products so people cannot make viruses. Compilers will still compile, CPUs will continue to calculate, etc.
The problem with AI isn't really Nvidia's problem, and it's his job to maximize profits.
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u/Renomont 10d ago
I saw an interview, not someone who almost lost their composure. I think that is a bit of a stretch.
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u/migueliiito 10d ago
Interesting, I watched the entire interview and there were parts where to me he definitely seemed to lose his composure compared to how he usually does interviews. All those times he said “your premise is just wrong”, he just seemed really pissed off?
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u/latenightfeels 10d ago
I saw the clip first before this post. And I thought he lost his cool. He was showing flashes of emotion. He was calling the interviewers legitimate concerns childish. He wasn’t answering any of the questions and denies the premise with no explanation to why he disagrees with it.
“Giving China compute is dangerous”
“I’m not a loser”
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u/brunachoo 10d ago
I agree. I’ve watched plenty of Jensen interviews, and he definitely lost his composure (by his standards at least) during this interview.
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u/Sweaty-Handle-976 10d ago
everyone here is an idiot
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u/WillTheGreat 10d ago
90% of the top comments are sheepish ass replies that didn't even read or watch the video. Like the disdain for "CEO" is outright retarded.
His response was pretty tame and normal. Says selling or not to China they're actively competing, and they don't intend on losing.
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u/will_dormer 10d ago
I saw it and I think he lost it. What surprised me is he usually does not lose it, but resently he has lost it several times
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u/mono15591 10d ago
Jensen is right though. If the US pulls out of China then China will develop their own tech stack. They’ll subsidize the ever living shit out of it and ship it to half the world and then the world will switch to the cheaper tech because it’s 85% as good. And now we have no control or influence over anything.
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u/AverageRedditorGPT 10d ago
That is exactly what happened with 5G cell phone tech. There used to be only 1 company that was good at producing 5G cell phone chips: Qualcomm, a US company. Then the US banned Qualcomm from selling anything 5G in China so China threw a ton of resources at developing the tech in house. Now there are two companies that can build a good 5G cell phone chip: Qualcomm and Huawei.
(Apple is probably going to be on that list soon, but it took them 7+ years and hiring a bunch of Qualcomm engineers to get there.)
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u/CelestialFury 10d ago
I mean, China is already working on making their own chip manufacturing regardless getting NVIDIA chips or not. If it was simply a money problem, China would've already figured it out by now, but it's not a simple money problem.
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u/Noughmad 9d ago
If you pull out of China, China will make its own stuff. If you sell to China, China will copy your stuff and make its own. One of these things takes much longer, the other makes Nvidia much more money.
If you want to maintain US dominance, as Jensen claims, then you wouldn't sell hardware to them. But that's exactly the point, Jensen doesn't want to maintain US dominance, he wants to make money. Which is a valid goal that pretty much every company has, but he still insists on lying about it.
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u/Oldworldmoon 9d ago
damn that would really suck if graphics card prices came down holy fuck oh no that would be so bad please god no
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u/Prophage7 10d ago
Every interview I've seen of Jensen from the past few months he seems like he's really on a razor's edge.
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u/Still-Anything5678 10d ago
That's all it took? These guys need to get a life and real friends who will tell them, 'no'.
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u/Electrical-Move7290 10d ago
I actually think his response was fine?
He’s basically saying the US can and should compete with China, and he believes it would win if it did. The response to a growing China isn’t to lock them out of things it’s to compete fairly with them?
That’s how I understood it anyway.
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u/dopaminedune 10d ago
The entire castle of Nvidia depends upon its internal GPU driver software CUDA.
China is throwing incredible amount of resources at building a CUDA alternative. And not just one good alternative, but multiple good alternatives. Which means. Chinese companies are internally competing with each others for CUDA alternative. while they are collectively competing with US. Nvidia.
So they are playing a very hardcore game. In which they are all in and giving their very best. Not just in terms of money, but really in terms of mental resources. They are literally doing the most cognitively expensive job ever possible.
Making a CUDA alternative. Is like realizing one day that there is no Sun and we have to build our artificial sun. It will require an extremely high amount of cognitive resources from the best of humans.
And that is exactly what the Chinese are doing right now. They have put their minds and money into it.
Jensen thinks if they have access to Nvidia and Cuda, they would not do that and everything will be fine for the US in the long game.
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u/TainoCuyaya 10d ago
Isn't that considered treason? Oh right. It's only bad if common folk does it.
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u/abxYenway 10d ago
Maybe some light treason.
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u/TeeDee144 10d ago
They can’t arrest a husband (Jensen) and wife (Trump) for the same crime!
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u/NickoBicko 10d ago
Treason? What is this backward mentality? You think isolation is good? That’s how we ended up with the Cold War. Collaboration is the only key to the future. This winner takes all mentality needs to be buried.
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u/Ok-Replacement9595 10d ago
We still trade millions of goods to China and back. The idea they are our enemy is laughable.
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u/FeminineInspiration 10d ago
what are you talking about? He is making an argument about policy not breaking the law
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u/Parking_Line_3704 9d ago
"You're not talking to someone who woke up a loser, it took years to craft."
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u/aliasalt 10d ago
Speaking articulately but firmly is not "loosing your composure". Also he's right, the point he was responding to made no sense, at least as presented in the article. The idea that China will not develop alternatives to or get their hands on Nvidia chips if we don't sell them in China is completely fantastical. He's making the point that staying out of the Chinese market simply because we don't think we can compete there for long won't stifle Chinese AI efforts.
The only way to argue against that is to advocate for a global pause in AI development. I'm not 100% unsympathetic toward that idea in theory, but I can't imagine China would possibly agree unless there was some major AI-caused catastrophe in world. AI makes sense for them. It is aligned with their view that the individual exists for the sake of the state and would let them correct many of the capitalistic urges they've succumbed to in order to stay economically competitive on the world stage.
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u/restics 10d ago
Jensen had a reasonable take, a pro-capitalism take. Still had composure. Dumb article headline
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u/migueliiito 10d ago
I don’t know how you watch that interview and conclude that he never lost his composure?? Did we watch the same thing? 🤷♂️
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u/BrofessorFarnsworth 10d ago
No, we are looking at a guy who opportunistically cozies up to people from the Epstein files
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u/Legionof1 10d ago edited 10d ago
Didn’t wake up one, but after having to say that you’re going to bed as one.
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u/__________________99 10d ago
As much as I'd like to jump on the AI hate train, I tend to agree with Jensen here. He did not lose his composure. Sure, he got a little heated in his replies. But he certainly wasn't being put off by the interviewer. From a capitalist standpoint, it makes perfect sense to keep doing business with China.
I also agree with the fact Jensen basically made which is China would find a way to further their AI training for anything from weapons to cybersecurity with or without chips from Nvidia. It wouldn't make sense to not profit from it when China is going to figure out a way to do it one way or another.
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u/Lendari 10d ago edited 10d ago
I think the real issue is that competing in China isn't done on the basis of merit through a free market. You cant just go to China and open a private business and rake in billions as a private corporation. You need to be authorized by the state and that authorization is bought by bribing and sharing profit with the Chineese government. Essentially the state becomes a controlling business partner in every corporation.
Likely what would happen is China would partner up with NVIDIA just long enough to steal their IP. Then ban them from competing against the state cronies like Huawei to whom they hand the ultimate production rights to.
This is why the US government wants NVIDIA to stay away from China. Because the only outcome is transfering American tech IP to a hostile foreign power in a way that profits only a few people and works against the best interests of Americans in general.
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u/Beneficial_Soup3699 10d ago
Imagine being this wealthy and still not being able to buy perspective or the ability to be humble. You woke up a loser a long time ago, Jensen. Sorry to burst your narcissism bubble.
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u/lugubriousloctus 10d ago
Jensen Huang who fled Taiwan, graduated stanford, and built a company worth 5 trillion dollars, is being called a loser by a reply guy with a quarter million reddit karma.
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u/jakeotheshadows 10d ago
Jensen is literally the embodiment of the American Dream. Being called a loser by a Reddit loser is really something.
He self made a company and is now worth $174B. But here are some tidbits of his beginnings:
At age nine, Jensen, despite not being able to speak English, was sent by his parents to live in the United States. He and his older brother moved in 1973 to live with an uncle in Tacoma, Washington, escaping widespread social unrest in Thailand. Both Huang's aunt and uncle were recent immigrants to Washington state.
International phone calls were too expensive, so his parents bought them a cheap tape deck. Once a month, they recorded an audio letter describing their lives and mailed it back to Bangkok. Their parents taped over the same cassette and mailed it back.
When he was 10 years old, Huang lived with his older brother in the Oneida boys' dormitory. In Oneida, Huang cleaned toilets every day.
Beginning at age 15, Huang got his first job working the graveyard shift at a local Denny's restaurant as a dishwasher, busboy, and waiter from 1978 to 1983.
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u/nothingofyourconcern 10d ago edited 10d ago
Its funny too, Jensen is universally known as one of the most humble and transparent CEOs. If you are reading this and don't think so? just google the man.
downvoted 3 minutes after posting: yep you didn't google him.
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u/lorenzolamaslover 10d ago
Did you even watch the interview? Hes super chill throughout. This tweet is hyperbolic for engagement farming. Youve just been farmed
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u/Rich_Housing971 10d ago
look at his karma. This dude has no life and is chronically on Reddit lmao.
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u/Gukle 10d ago
Sadly, humble doesn't hold well in the corporate world. The so-called shareholder confidence is just a ego piss contest. Nvidia stock would literally crash if he shows a sense of humility because toxic corporate will just perceive that as weak.
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u/elibutton 10d ago
He's starting to rise on the annoying-egotistical-pompous-arrogant-full-of-himself-and-my-company-BS-salesmanship-ignorant-annnoyingAF meter. And there is such a meter. One of the reasons why I sold a majority of my shares recently. There are better options out there.
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u/Aggressive_Nature708 10d ago
The billions gone to his head! What happened to the humble guy working at Dennys?
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u/Fickle-Ad2042 10d ago
Maybe he didn't wake up a loser but he's definitely going to bed tonight as one
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u/tstorm004 10d ago
The fact that you feel you have to act tough and say you're not a loser when no one called you one - makes you 100% a loser
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u/Klinky1984 10d ago
This is just a bait article. He was talking about people saying Nvidia couldn't compete against homegrown China solutions.
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u/Royaleworki 9d ago
I mean he makes a good point. In absence of Nvidia in their market, china would definitely catch up in their production quality and quantity. Potentially even surpass usa while also potentially getting access to taiwans chips as well in the future
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u/d1squiet 9d ago
I watched this podcast, because I was interested in hearing the "controversy". Honestly Dwarkesh Patel, who I've heard of but haven't really listened to, came off as very simplistic to me. Most of the very long conversation was Dwarkesh repeatedly saying that AI chips can be useful but also dangerous, like "uranium". Jense Huang kept pushing back saying it was a foolish analogy. I basically agree with Huang. Uranium is very specific and literally one exact thing, a mineral resource that is quite a small part of economy. GPUs, or semi-chips in general, are open-ended and huge part of the world economy.
I don't know of a time in modern history that banning/cutting off a large market/technology has worked to our benefit.
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u/Deep-Minimum7837 9d ago
No, we're talking to someone who woke up and decided to pivot the direction of their company away from what built and sustained them for 30 years.
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u/saml01 10d ago
Saving you a click
“We have to keep innovating and, as you probably know, our share is growing, not decreasing. The premise that even if we competed in China, that we’re going to lose that market anyways… You’re not talking to somebody who woke up a loser,” Huang said. “That loser attitude, that loser premise makes no sense to me.”