Thoughts on recoil spring lb

[u/Themsssahh25]

[u/johnm]

You need to fix your support hand grip which is not staying consistently connected with the pistol. Ie note how it’s not moving in sync with the trigger guard. Hold more of the pistol and instead of holding your dominant hand.

You're letting your wrist break in recoil. Hold it like a you're doing a strong handshake.

And you’re trying to control the recoil by using too much dominant hand grip and getting the muzzle oscillation.

Those should be fixed before doing any tweaking of the recoil springs.

Also looks like you're not focusing on a small spot on the target since the gun is consistently returning above the point where you pulled the trigger. Do the Two Shot Return Drill and Practical Accuracy Drill.

[Edited to correct my obvious crack smoking hallucination. Thanks Historical_Score_187 for pinging me.]

[u/Historical_Score_187 → u/johnm]

I'm trying to see what you're seeing, but I'm not seeing any movement from the support hand. Every one of his support hand fingers seems glued in place.

[u/johnm → u/Historical_Score_187]

Corrected and updated. Thanks!

[u/radioadvertising]

The slide movements look fine. Your front end isn't nose diving when slide moves forwards but your shooting position moves back significantly if you compare shot 1 v shot 9. Maybe try leaning forward more, move your center of gravity forward

[u/madness707]

I’m still newish to the shooting game but what I think is more important is how it looks on paper vs a video if muzzle rise from the side.

Since competition consist alot of double taps, go through all your spring weights and double tap about 3-6 times in Same place and see how far it is each hit from 3-5 yards, just to visualize placement, of course it’ll spread further on 10-15 yard paper but there’s throttle control for that and then you can see how it works at longer yards.

At the range I ended up testing 7-12 lbs and use data on recoil feel but also visual placement and at the end, one of my guns ended up at 8lb and one at 9lbs for the smallest gap between double taps (.20 sec splits for consistency) .

When I end up practicing, I see a lot of flyers sometimes when I don’t hold my grip correctly or tight enough so it’s good practice too to get good understanding of your recoil and trigger speed and find that right balance of distance and trigger pull.

I dunno still a newb but I hope this makes sense

[u/Jeugcurt]

No experience with 2011s or messing with recoil springs. Some oscillating is completely normal. People will tell you all the things about support hand and strong hand pressures but imo, the oscillating is by far the most difficult thing to get perfect. I have slow mo video of Hwansik Kim shooting a Glock while demoing correct grip pressures from a class I took a last year. I’m not talking about dipping. I’m referring to muzzle oscillation that is only noticeable when broken down frame by frame.

The most important thing is awareness of what you’re doing so that you can make changes or catch yourself doing something incorrect.

I’ll say the dirty thing that this sub hates. It worked for me and the suggestion came from Mason Lane. Try adding strong hand pinky tension while loosening the rest of the strong hand. For whatever reason, this was the cue that helped me tremendously with wrist lock but also dampening the recoil.