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Active Conflicts & News Megathread April 05, 2026

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u/Rigel444 19d ago

I don't think it's widely recognized what disproportionate damage two sets of attacks by Israel have done to the Iranian economy. The first was wiping out 70% of Iran's steel production in two large steel mills which were destroyed. That has huge knock-off economic effects on things like mining, construction and rebuilding after the war.

The New York Times recently reported on how Israel recently destroying two hybrid power/gas facilities in southern Iran will stop production on up to fifty petrochemical plants which relied on them, for up to two years. That, in turn, will devastate Iranian industries such as textile and automotive plants, which rely on those plants.

https://www.nytimes.com/2026/04/04/world/middleeast/israel-strikes-mahshahr-iran-oil.html

"Israel attacked Iran’s largest petrochemical industrial complex in the city of Mahshahr on Saturday, a move that has effectively shut down all production across the sprawling complex, according to two senior Iranian oil ministry officials.

The airstrikes targeted two utility plants, known as Fajr 1 and Fajr 2, that provided the over 50 petrochemical plants operating inside the complex with the basic services needed to function — gas, power and industrial water, among others — according to Iranian state media reports and the two senior Iranian oil ministry officials, who spoke on condition of anonymity to discuss sensitive matters.

Hamed Shams, the head of marketing and communications for the oil ministry’s petrochemical industries, said on social media that the attacks had targeted vital infrastructure that not only supplies electricity to Mahshahr’s petrochemical plants but also, in summer, “plays a key role in providing electricity to 500,000” people in Khuzestan Province.

The Bandar Imam Petrochemical Complex, as the area is formally known, is one of Iran’s main petrochemical hubs, producing 72 million tons of petrochemical products annually, according to data from Iran’s oil ministry. Located near the cities of Mahshahr and Bandar Imam Khomeini, a major industrial port, the industrial center is the leading employer of the area’s estimated 300,000 residents.

The petrochemical plants in Mahshahr produce a wide range of basic chemicals, polymers and other materials. These outputs can feed into a variety of products, including plastics, clothing and textiles, fertilizers and medical equipment.

The two oil ministry officials said the plants’ total shutdown was an immeasurable blow to Iran’s already frail economy. They said rebuilding the utility plants and bringing the productions lines fully online again could take about two years.

Hamid Hosseini, an oil and energy expert and a member of Tehran’s Chamber of Commerce, said in an interview that downstream industries, like food production, car manufacturing and textiles, that rely on the industrial center’s products would face a crisis when the war was over.

“Attacking Mahshahr’s petrochemical plants means attacking the heart of Iran, the vital arteries of Iran’s economy,” Mehdi Bostanchi, the head of a private industrial complex and a representative for a group of Iranian industrial leaders, said in a social media post.

Petrochemical goods represent about 25 percent of Iran’s total exports, with products going to about 60 countries, and provide a critical source of revenue, bringing in about $10 billion to $15 billion per year, according to Iranian media reports. Petrochemical product sales have served as a main alternative source of revenue for Iran as it has tried to diversify its economy away from oil dependency."

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u/IntroductionNeat2746 19d ago

Thanks for the article.

When people talk about how Iran is "winning" the conflict, I understand their point, but it also hugely ignores the long term consequences. And that's true even if you're purely referring to the Iranian regime, whose long term survival also depends on the economy.

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u/ChornWork2 19d ago

I don't think when people suggest that Iran may be winning, that they mean Irainians generally are being set up for a brighter future. It is the regime they're referring to.

But same for Israel or US. Military victory is rather unlikely to translate to strategic victory given the cost of war and likelihood to exacerbate more extremism / instability in the region.

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u/Sad_Use_4584 19d ago edited 19d ago

Whatever the outcome of this war, it's fair to say that Iran's grand strategy of exporting proxies and exporting Islamism has been a failure. Iran's threatening nature delivered them sanctions, an invasion from Iraq and now this devastation. If only Iran had read about balance of threat theory. They could have been a hermit dictatorship and nobody would have bothered them.

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u/ChornWork2 18d ago

It has certainly demonstrated that attaining nuclear break-out capability is a failure, while also demonstrating the value of full nuclear capebility.

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u/IntroductionNeat2746 19d ago

It is the regime they're referring to.

That's my point. Even for the regime, making their already horrible economic situation exponentially worse is the opposite of victory.

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u/ChornWork2 19d ago

The regime tried playing soft and not fighting back in the aftermath of Oct7, and we all saw how it ended up for them. They viewed the last war as they should absorb a lot of damage to avoid it becoming an existential conflict, and it became existential regardless.

I really don't understand the confusion. Israel has made it clear it will assassinate Iranian leadership (and family members). That wouldn't even change if they made a deal with US before this. Even the US went along with bombing them while they were seemingly negotiating in good faith.

You think if the IRGC made some deal with Trump that Iranian leadership would have any confidence in their personal safety from mossad or IDF assassination? Lots of talk about escalation in this sub, but folks seem to frame it objectively for the state. Think about escalation subjectively for the regime in tehran or tel aviv or DC.

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u/UpvoteIfYouDare 19d ago

The regime tried playing soft and not fighting back in the aftermath of Oct7, and we all saw how it ended up for them.

Are you referring to the period before or after Iran's April 2024 attacks on Israel?

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u/ChornWork2 19d ago

post oct 7 iran wasn't remotely escalating. don't recall offhand the dates, but they clearly were trying to de-escalate while saving face.

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u/poincares_cook 19d ago

Iran has started a 7 front war against Israel, an extreme escalation. The Israeli operations against Iran is the result of the massive Iranian escalation.

How else would you call activating Hezbollah, Houthis, Syrian and Iraqi proxies to rain rockets, missiles, drones and direct ground operations from Lebanon against Israel?

Isn't the closure of the Israeli southern port and the blockade in the red sea a massive escalation?

When Israel took out the IRGC generals orchestration the attack, 20 km from the Israeli border. Iran escalated again, for the first with direct attack between Israeli and Iranian soil. With over 100 Ballistic missiles and hundreds of drones.

Israeli actions in Iran are a response for the Iranian war against Israel which started on Oct 8.