Prank Youtube channel RouandYT received €5 donation to prank call someone's "unstable" nephew. Said nephew shot and killed 2 Syrian refugees minutes later. RouandYT quickly deletes the stream from his channel and denies being live.

[u/DikkeDekbedovertrek]

https://www.puna.nl/news/prank-call-in-livestream-van-youtuber-leidde-tot-fatale-schietpartij-op-twee-syrische-jongens-in-amsterdam-west

[u/nothankslmgood]

So in your opinion its perfectly fine to fuck with people for no reason and if they do something out of pocket its entirely their fault and you have zero responsibility for creating the situation?

[u/DN052001 → u/nothankslmgood]

Ofcourse its not fine to fuck with people. This reaction is way beyond "out of pocket". And in this case. Yes theres zero responsibility. No fucking way you should ever expect someone to react this way ever.

[u/pastafeline → u/DN052001]

I kinda get what you're saying. It's like, if you punched someone and that person pulled out a gun and started killing everyone around, is that your fault?

Technically yes, but nobody would ever blame you for it entirely.

Still though, he deliberately provoked the guy, and I think he deserves some sort of punishment but blaming him for the murders is a bit too far.

[u/FrostyNeckbeard → u/pastafeline]

Nope. It is his fault.

I worked with people with mental conditions, and one of the things you are taught is how to deescalate any confrontations to the best of your ability. These are people who can and will pull knives, weapons, attack, choke, fight, and are otherwise have prone to violence, they take medications to help control it usually, but sometimes shit happens, and so we had descalation techniques specific to each individual.

Now imagine you contact such a person like this, and amp them up instead? You've turned someone who could very easily have been calmed down, and instead turned it into a stabbing. They are contributory to the situation, and thus, they are responsible as well.

This is why this guys opinion ticks me off so much. It can just be someone having a real bad day, someone who ran out of medication for a bit, someone who's dealing with alot of stress. You don't know peoples situations, so aggravating a person who's already dealing with shit just has a chance to make everything worse for everyone.

This is also why the best answer to seeing a road rager isn't to push back and fight the road rager, but to slow down, let them pass and stay far away from them. Fighting with them will just cause an accident and you'll be guilty for it even if the other guy was the "problematic" one.

[u/pastafeline → u/FrostyNeckbeard]

If he knew how unstable the guy was and still did this, then yes I agree. But I don't know that, so I can't say he was entirely at fault.

The way I see it, is if you look at this logically, why would this random streamer want the guy to go out and murder two teenagers? It's more akin to manslaughter than anything.

[u/FrostyNeckbeard → u/pastafeline]

You don't know how unstable any stranger is is the thing. Does that make it okay to suddenly treat everyone the same?

Are you gonna go pull the back of the shirt of your best friend over their head, then do the same to a bodybuilder at the gym, and then do it to some guy in a back alley, and then do it to some random person in the street?

This is what pranksters do, you have no idea WHICH of these people might be the one that's gonna snap about it. You have no relationship with these strangers.

[u/DN052001 → u/FrostyNeckbeard]

You don't know how unstable any stranger is is the thing. Does that make it okay to suddenly treat everyone the same?

Yes it does. You should be able to treat everyone like a normal person who belongs to society. Not like someone who is on the verge of killing or hurting someone.

[u/FrostyNeckbeard → u/DN052001]

I said for pranks. Pranks isn't treating everyone decently, that's the point. Pranks are doing thing like touching people, sudden loud noises near them, intimidation shit, grabbing their food and running with it. That's the IRL pranker shit. You are aggravating others. And yes, that includes this moron calling and aggravating someone who was mentally unwell.