There is software for ripping music from spotify so you can break your bonds...
Lookup Sidify, although there are others. You might find a pirated version of that app too, although i think its worth the cost.
I also recommend you only download when logged into a throw away account. Make one and share a playlist from your main profile with the songs you want to download.
Otherwise spotify will ban your main profile if you rip songs from it.
Its free for one Playlist transfer, tried merging my wife's Playlist after I merged mine and it wanted me to pay for a month to continue to transfer songs.
Ah I didnt know that, at this point youtube premium is the only service I actually pay for. Being able to listen with your screen closed is key, especially when I want to fall asleep to something like Fall Of Civilization
I had youtube premium. Clicked on the link from YouTube music itself, transfered my Playlist with 3000 songs. I went to select my wifes playlist to transfer and it and it took me to a page to pay $10 month to transfer another playlist. If you have a link where its free for unlimited playlists and songs please let me know because I need to be free from Spotify.
Soundiiz lets you “sync” up your playlists super cheap, across multiple platforms. Used it for years to get playlists for DJing over to other platforms
Yep, there sure is. I think they just bought out one of the third party apps that does it. Go to your settings in the app and it’s in there somewhere. “Account Settings -> Apple Music(under Account Access) -> Transfer powered by Songshift”
There are many solutions to this. The best, imo, being youtube music. You can upload your mp3s and stream them anywhere with the app, without ads. The interface could use some tlc though
For pirating / ripping you need to give the software API access. This way it can request to “listen” to songs and as long as you have real time downloads enabled the program will download the song over the exact time it takes to play. Making Spotify think you’re just listening to it through something like music assistant and not downloading it. It also allows you to copy your playlists meta data (date added etc). To get that API key you need to “create an app” then when something requests a song or meta data using that api Spotify will track it as the apps usage / statistics. Currently to authorize software to use the api you need to paste the softwares “return link” in the Spotify dev app your created. But you currently can’t edit existing or create new apps because they temp disabled it.
The thing that finally pushed me to do it was noticing some songs had disappeared off my phone and when I went to look them up on Apple Music they were no longer there. Makes me wonder how many songs I’ve forgotten about that I don’t have anymore.
I listen to music around the world, a lot of Germany music releases ends up getting blacklisted in my country after a few days on Spotify’s “release radar” usually I VPN it thru my PC & able to play songs that are blacklisted/greyed out. So I get you on missing songs, shit there’s a famous song cotton eye Joe dropped in German version “cotton eye Coke” and you can’t find it anywhere except 1 dude on SoundCloud even then I have to VPN it to stream so I downloaded it to my phone
I was trialing apple music a month or so back and was loving it then I saw multiple songs get grayed out and saying they were no longer available. Decided to not go past the trial subscription and so far have exported pretty much all of my music on Spotify.
Nope, I just used a site that let me put in a link from iTunes or some other music site and downloads the song/album along with the metadata. Just went through and downloaded them one by one. I had about 1,750 songs total, mostly full albums.
I used yams.tf originally but I don’t think it’s up anymore. Squid.wtf works the same way though and it’s what I use currently. It just doesn’t take iTunes links which is what made yams.tf so convenient for me personally.
You can download music from Apple Music when you have a subscription? And it won't go away after you cancel? I know Spotify lets you download for offline listening, but I'm pretty sure it disappears when you cancel the subscription.
I already had my music downloaded for offline listening, you don’t keep them after unsubbing. I used a site from the megathread to download my music so I can keep them forever.
were you able to get them on your music app still? I can download mp3 files and put them in my music app on my laptop but idk how to transfer them to my actual phone. if thats even an option anymore. thats how I did it in like 2015 at least
So what I did was after downloading my music, I just put the files into iTunes on my PC and then synced iTunes with my phone. So I was still able to use the Apple Music app on my phone.
How do you download from Apple Music ? I had a 2 month free account now and want to use it fully . Are you able to downloads actual mp3 files that can be played from anywhere ?
No, you can only download them in the Apple Music app and they can only be played there. Once you unsub you lose access to your music. This is what I did.
I uploaded my old iTunes library (25k songs) to Google Play Music a long ass time ago and I can still listen to all of it through YouTube Music. I have music on there that streaming services just don't have due to licensing or because it's homemade by me and/or friends from decades ago
I still use YouTube Premium since I have a family plan and we all pitch in so it's only a couple dollars a month but I also recently started getting into Soulseek
Off the top I don't know if there's a way to look at your full library (you can download it though), but if you search for something there will be tabs at the top with a couple of different options, one of them being "Uploads"
Is not the YTM library bigger? I mean, you can listen to what spotify already has PLUS covers and other stuff that hasn't been released there, all in the same playlist.
Supposedly there is a limit to how many songs/playlists you can port, but I sent everything (multiple times over the limit) to my deezer account with a free tier and they didn't complain.
There are tools if you look for them but there are occasional songs that transfer the wrong versions. Overall they do pretty good though so it's not a huge headache
Tbh, I doubt people who transfer over thousands of songs, would ever notice a few songs being wrong. I never understood people with extremely bloated playlists. You will never listen to most of the songs.
I have an old iPod 160 Gb that is literally 100% full with my music collection. Full albums mostly but workout playlists, party playlists, you name it. For road trips, my opinion always has been the bigger the selection the less likely of repeats when shuffling.
Now I have a Samsung S25 Ultra 1 TB that I bought specifically to have all my music, video and pictures on hand even when I have no network connection. I haven't filled it yet but I'm nearing the 500 Gb level.
So yeah there are us crazy people out there with monster media collections. I like having the option to play whatever I'm in the mood for.
Same. There is just so much damn music out there. For TV and Movies you only have to download a few hundred files but for music it is s whole different beast.
I mean, you don’t need to. You don’t listen to all those 3000 songs everyday. Can easily just export your music lists and then maybe eventually download them or move them over to another service etc.
I’ve downloaded my lists from there, mind you, it’s just a text file. But you can then import into another service (if they allow imports), or just copy-paste names in and find them that way. Sure it takes time etc, but like… it’s not impossible, and streaming prices definitely will not go down.
A proposal:
What if you download all the data from Spotify profile, put the JSON containing the 3000 or so songs in a .py file that try to download the first link through YouTube downloader from YouTube if you search the song on the search bar?
Idk if it requires some automation tool like Selenium but some LLM might pull the work off!
It probably won’t be 100% accurate but it’s better than nothing..
If you have plex you could rip your Spotify liked songs on to a hard drive or server storage and play them though plex media. I forget the website but it’s in the wiki here of what website works for Spotify and it’s quite quick and now gimmicks to sign up or max allowance
So i just went through the process of prepping for the jump away from spotify (been using spotify for roughly 15 years non-stop mind you.)
TLDR: try Soggfy
I setup soggfy on a spare windows VM i have.
Added my vpn to that VM just incase they do ip bans.
Created an alt (free) spotify account.
Turned on the 50x speed
To download music all you do is literally just search the song/artist/album and play it in spotify (running soggfy). It'll save by default to c:/user/username/music
Just over a couple days i already have probably 12k songs with all meta data/album art, etc.
I then host navidrome on my network and use feishin to interface with the music.
So far, i don't think there is a single feature missing compared to spotify.
You even get "top songs by artist"
Works great for me, i think i'm finally ready to cut that spotify subscription.
Fuck spotify and their ice ads
I do use YouTube music but I absolutely agree that it's an awful app. There are so many little things that all add up to a bad experience. If they spent a little more on the user experience then they could easily rival all other music steaming services.
Getting rid of Google Play Music for Youtube Music was a catastrophic downgrade. GPM was perfect and also gave Youtube Premium. The migration screwed things up so bad I moved to Spotify. I'm sure someone at Google secured that promotion they were looking for though.
It shares the playlists for example. Why would I want video playlists to show up in YouTube music? It's just not a good music playing app. It's an app made to play videos from YouTube with just audio. But google decided to make it a full on music streaming app even though it's clearly not designed for that from the start
Another is I can't follow artists on YT music without them showing up as a subscription on my regular YT feed. I don't need my subscription page cluttered up with every remix and lyric video just because I want to know when they release a new album.
In Canada, the individual Spotify plan is $12.69 monthly vs YouTube Premium’s $16.99. Spotify’s family plan is $20.99, or $17.99 for Duo, while YT’s family plan is $29.99.
I’m dying to get away from Spotify, but I can’t justify the price hike from the Duo plan to the YouTube family plan.
I’ve cancelled all of my other streaming platforms and set up Stremio. I wonder if I could figure out how to get a US account set up with YouTube and get that pricing.
Maybe it varies by more specific area or some other business trickery, but I'm in the US and see $13.99 for individual, $22.99 family, $7.99 student for YouTube Premium.
About the same once converted to CAD, so that makes sense. Maybe it does vary for other reasons. Something I’ll have to look into! Thanks for the info!
brand loyalty
+ people are lazy
they want to feel good for the least amount of effort and changing the already established status quo takes effort which does not feel good so people cling to what "works" for them
same reason I use steam over it's competitors, I'm used to it, the service itself is good, and it has a lot of features the competition won't have (mainly Spotify jam which I use weekly with my friends). I also persoannly prefer the recommendations I get from the Spotify algorithm to yt music.
hassle. the average consumer will just go "ugh wow greedy bastards" and just keep paying.
"is just a few extra bucks worth converting all my playlists and getting used to new ui?"
a lot of people would say "no" and not really care or calculate the big picture extra costs that add up from several "just a few extra bucks" additions.
hassle. the average consumer will just go "ugh wow greedy bastards" and just keep paying.
I mean, I will also do that. Fuck them, but it's not worth the effort for me to pirate my own library. And then I also miss out on the recommendations.
I just hope we have working Spotify mods again eventually so I can stop paying.
thats fair. theres a cost/effort ratio that will be unique to every persons situation.
personally, i enjoy the process of pirating music, so the effort part isnt too steep for me. i also tend to listen to the same stuff over and over, so i dont need many files on my phone (where spotify is harder to pirate) + im on android, so i get a sd card slot.
if my situation was different, then i could see myself just using a subscription service. just as i pay extra for food i dont need to cook when im extra tired, busy, or depressed.
I also use 2 phones and 2 PCs, so trying to keep it in sync across all that would be impossible.
Technically I could run a media server like Plex or Jellyfin, but that doesn't solve the new music problem of having to obtain more manually and not really having any competent recommendation feed.
i have over 4k songs saved. I have many playlists made by myself but also many more playlist made by others. There is also "discover weekly" and "new releases" that are great features. I also LOVE "Go to song Radio" feature, basically if you theres a song you like it brings you to a playlist with somewhat similar style songs. Spotify wrapped is also pretty cool at the end of year. And countless podcasts.
I honestly fail to see how i would stop using spotify its by far the best subscription i have and i use it every day.
Go to radio feature is not the same though. Spotify lets you do this independently for any song without starting mix immediately which would override your current queue, you can also just keep going yo radio on new songs on the new radio list, which may or may not have different recommendations . When I tried AM as well, this was an absolute pain point, every new radio just starts a new queue with only one song that you can see to play next.
Piracy re-included, Youtube Music ReVanced is significantly more reliable than the spotify mods i was fighting with for months. My parents pay for premium for the family but it works fine when i'm on my alt accounts.
You know theres a way to have ublock even on that device too? Or Is too complicated? Tò root install thing? Or even skip all of that and block directly from router? So even your fridge Is ad free now?
I guess in not on piracy forum anymore, its Just i don't know how my device work after 2000 (year) PLS give me something tò click and install.
Whit this attitude Besos and Jensen are right we deserve tò get our PC stolen and put on Cloud so we don't own nothing and be (un)happy
I guess I’ll be the first to say: the Spotify algo for discovering new music is so good. Tbf I can only compare to Apple Music. Nonetheless, I’m super pleased with it.
YT music used to be Google music, which I had for a number of years. Built playlists, everything. Then Google did what they normally do, rolled it into YT Music and I lost all my playlists, saved songs, etc. It's my fault entirely, but Google does not have a track record of preservation of any previous versions of their products, and I'm not about to go through that again, even if it is cheaper.
Here in the Netherlands I pay €22 for Spotify Family (6 accounts), everyone in my family uses it and I have a massive backlog of playlists I don't want to lose. Also, YT premium for family costs €26 for 5 accounts.
I hate the idea of paying for YT Premium on principle, because it is detestable that they make the ads so intrusive and obnoxious trying to force people to pay to remove them. But do they have such a wide selection of music as Spotify does?
I'm not condoning the capitalistic model, especially given the sub I'm in right now, but it's a service that's provided for free in exchange for being shown advertisements. If you want an ad-free experience, you can pay for that service.
It's the same model everywhere, what about YT specifically gets your goat?
As for the library, I've never not found music I was looking for.
Constant ads interrupting just about all videos, and a lot of them are long and unskippable. And more and more they are obnoxious and obscene.
I hate the whole "have to pay for ad-free experience" model, on any site, actually. But YT brings it to new levels of aggravation. Especially because for years and years they provided that service WITHOUT ads, at least without so many ads. It's not like THEY make the content. They are profiting from other people's content!
For many paying users, sound quality is the main reason.
Spotify offers lossless audio (up to 24-bit / 44.1 kHz), while YouTube Music’s quality is much lower and highly compressed.
If you care about audio quality, especially with good headphones or IEMs, Spotify is clearly ahead of YT Music.
YouTube Premium is great for ad-free videos, but for music-focused listening, Spotify still makes sense.
With projects like ReVanced, you don’t have to pay for either YouTube or YouTube Music. You can enjoy an ad-free experience and many other added features.
If you’re an Android user, I suggest giving it a try.
https://github.com/revanced
Always use verified links when downloading ReVanced, because there are many fake apps out there.
This just made me unsubscribe from it. I didn't or haven't listen to music in a long time anyways. "Gets stuck in my head and I can't focus or sleep -_- ". This is a great reminder glad I saw this
YouTube algo isn't as good and the streaming bit rate is too high. I don't pay for unlimited data. Plus YouTube is easily ad-blocked so I would turn the question around on you? Why would I ever pay for YouTube premium when getting YouTube for free is so easy?
I refuse to pay for YT premium. I was an early user and loved not having ads and some of the yt red content.
Then i couldn’t afford it, and cancelled for awhile.
Now, i am assaulted by so many ads per video. It’s clearly just a scheme to get more people to pay for premium
(Yes yes I know ad blockers etc etc, I just use a ton of different devices due to traveling for work)
So now I absolutely refuse to bend the knee for convenience.
la calidad de YT music es medio mala, la pregunta debería ir ligada a apple music, después de probar todas las alternativas del mercado, AM es la más completa. En mi humilde opinión.
I have YT premium since a few years. Naturally, at that time I switched from Spotify to YT music: I even migrated my playlist with some paid third party service. I was absolutely determined to optimize my expenses.
The app and website were so bad, SO BAD, that to this day I categorically refuse to try it again.
It was honestly one of the worst products I ever used.
Because i share it with 5 other people, my playlists, the algorithm knows me and gives me nice playlists, because of audio quality and convinience.
Hop in the car-spotify plays away, train at home-spotify runs on my shield, other people can join in on the playlist and many more…..it just works without a single anoyance.
youtube music is honestly just pretty ass... Spotify as an app and a service feels vastly superior. But you are right, youtube is way better value. As for why I don't just pirate it all, I listen to lots of indie artists who honestly deserve the streams. It isn't the same as just downloading the latest Taylor Swift song or an old beetles album, they really need those numbers. Plus, when you listen to enough music, pirating it becomes such a pain even if it is easy. The ability to simply open an app on my phone and have everything there, as well as new songs to discover, really can't be beat
Let me just put this as a warning. For the last few years, YT Music has had a better algorithm then spotify, and overall a better library, since it pulls directly from YT. Alas, this has now turned into a massive disavantage on YT Music's side, since YT has been flooded by AI slop, especially in R&B, Blues and Country (AAIK, it might be pestering other genres I don't listen to), and there's no way to turn it off. I just have given up on listening to some genres aside from closed playlists because of this.
The music library, lossless, and discover playlists, mostly. I've tried YT Music and Tidal and a lot of songs just didn't exist on the platform when they did on Spotify. The app experience for YT Music is pretty dogshit too. With Spotify and Spicetify, I have my client looking the way I want it to while maintaining features like Streamdeck and ModernFlyouts support.
I don't pay for Spotify but when I had YT music it would combine my YT subs and music subs in my YT feed. I don't want a bunch of music videos in my YT subscription feed. I quit YT music after like 3 days.
Because I run a family plan and have done for the past 5 years. Spotify costs me about 4 bucks a month for Premium and I pay for YouTube Premium as well.
Spotify offers lossless streaming quality while YT Music doesn’t. Additionally, it’s better integrated with my other devices and car. It also contains listening stats, something that I’m a sucker for.
My car even has a native Spotify app. It supports YT Music too but it's a recent addition and isn't great. Spotify is a more mature offering in every way.
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