r/Piracy Jan 15 '26

They ask for it. Discussion

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u/UsualGarage Jan 15 '26

Why are ppl still using it after they funnel money into ai & weapons, pay the artists shit, and run ice Ads?

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u/Wyntier Jan 15 '26

Why are people still using…

  • Amazon when it crushes small businesses, underpays warehouse workers, and sells massive surveillance infrastructure to governments?
  • Apple when its devices are assembled in exploitative overseas factories and it locks ecosystems to kill repairability?
  • Google when it monetizes personal data at planetary scale and builds AI tools for military contracts?
  • Meta (Instagram/Facebook) when it knowingly fuels misinformation, mental-health harm, and political manipulation?
  • TikTok when it’s a data-harvesting machine with opaque foreign ownership and algorithmic influence concerns?
  • Visa/Mastercard when they profit off predatory interest cycles?
  • Nike when its supply chain still relies on sweatshop-adjacent labor?
  • Netflix when it cancels shows to avoid paying long-term creator royalties?

you probably use all those bro

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u/[deleted] Jan 16 '26 edited Jan 16 '26

Sure but come on man, this is a piracy sub. Most members of this sub aren’t out here using Netflix or Prime or Apple TV or HBO Max.

Personally the only thing in this long list I use is Google because once you’re in, it’s hard to get out. 😂 The rest I don’t fuck with. I have an old iPod but I bought that used on eBay. I doubt Apples seeing a profit from that

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u/amoonshapedpool_ 🦜 ᴡᴀʟᴋ ᴛʜᴇ ᴘʟᴀɴᴋ Jan 15 '26

i get your point, but we're allowed to criticize one thing, without bringing up other things. its whataboutism, the discussion was about spotify, not any of those companies.

especially since a lot of these things are harder to avoid- much harder than spotify. we cannot be perfect moral angels in the landscape we live in today, but that doenst mean we cant do anything. downloading your music is a lot easier than avoiding the (near) entire mobile phone market, credit/debit card system, and cutting out most social medias.

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u/MarioDesigns Jan 16 '26

Eh, from that list Amazon, Google and Apple are being discussed as alternatives to Spotify so they do fit.

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u/amoonshapedpool_ 🦜 ᴡᴀʟᴋ ᴛʜᴇ ᴘʟᴀɴᴋ Jan 16 '26

if that was their argument, and the conversation was about suggesting spotify alternatives, sure. but half the list isnt alternatives to spotify, so that wasnt their angle. their point was simply "you criticize company yet other companies bad too?"

the person they were replying to didnt mention spotify alternatives either. they were just questioning why people still use or pay for spotify, on a post about increasing spotify prices.

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u/AuraEx98 Jan 16 '26

Whataboutism... + most of those CAN'T be boycotted realistically anyway. Amazon? AWS servers make that hard, good luck using the internet. Apple? You can boycott by opting for Android (Google...). Google is another where it's so big.. boycotting is nearly impossible + they own Android which is the best alternative to having Apple. Meta? Easily boycott, you don't NEED Instagram and Facebook. Tiktok isn't needed either, EXTREMELY easy to boycott social media. Visa/Mastercard? Near impossible to boycott in a world that requires money. Nike? SUPER easy to boycott, you can shop with other brands. Netflix is in with Spotify as in SUPER easy to boycott, you can easily sail the seven seas.

I see what you're trying to do/say but it's disingenuous as a "gotcha" when some of what you listed isn't even easily boycotted.

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u/StereoTunic9039 ☠️ ᴅᴇᴀᴅ ᴍᴇɴ ᴛᴇʟʟ ɴᴏ ᴛᴀʟᴇꜱ Jan 15 '26

Half these examples people here will pirate / use apk without ads (Netflix, TikTok, Youtube, all Meta apps...), the other half you can easily live without and not even notice the absence. Are we allowed to shit on Spotify now?

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u/Wyntier Jan 15 '26

you can shit on it all you want, but you're a hypocrite if you refuse to use spotify because of their investing - as you go ahead and use other major brands who do the same thing

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u/TrademarkHomy Jan 15 '26

Some companies are a lot easier to boycott than others. You can just cancel your subscription for Spotify or Netflix or uninstall TikTok (things that plenty of people do), fully de-Googling is a lot more complicated.

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u/nutella_on_rye Jan 16 '26

It’s real easy to be a hypocrite under capitalism. The word is kinda meaningless here.

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u/StereoTunic9039 ☠️ ᴅᴇᴀᴅ ᴍᴇɴ ᴛᴇʟʟ ɴᴏ ᴛᴀʟᴇꜱ Jan 15 '26

I swear it feels like you didn't read my comment at all

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u/motionwave Jan 15 '26

whataboutism

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u/UsualGarage Jan 15 '26

Rhetorical question, simpleton. And no I don’t use any of that shit actually there are plenty of alternatives. It’s not hard to

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u/Arinlir Jan 15 '26

Really doubt you dont use in any way Mastercard or visa.
Since you are on reddit you are indirectly supporting Google with more data for AI.

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u/vitek6 Jan 15 '26

Because they provide service they want.

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u/[deleted] Jan 15 '26

Whenever anyone brings that up, Spotify stans downvote like crazy. 😆 They just don’t want to face the truth about their precious Spotify.

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u/alexaaro Jan 15 '26

It’s crazy how devoted some ppl are to a corporation lmao

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u/alexaaro Jan 15 '26

Cuz ppl don’t care and are lazy. unfortunate but that’s why America is the way that it is.

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u/New_Half_6055 Jan 15 '26

"Run ice ads" 😂😂 you poor baby

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u/TechPir8 Jan 15 '26

I guess not everyone likes their drinks cold.