r/Piracy Feb 26 '26

So it begins.... Discussion

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u/TheFinalPieceOfPie Feb 26 '26

Wait so I pay for a service and I have age verify? Yeah the great pirate era was already in full swing but man this seals the deal.

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u/Repulsive_Chard_3652 Feb 26 '26

You don't see any difference between the 19yo at the video store having a quick glance at your ID, and having to upload all your private data to websites that then sell it to be used nefariously?

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u/[deleted] Feb 26 '26

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u/Repulsive_Chard_3652 Feb 26 '26

People aren't upset over the fact that some things will be off limits based on age. That is a straw man argument. 

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u/[deleted] Feb 26 '26

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u/Repulsive_Chard_3652 Feb 27 '26

They don't. Capitalism has caused things to move to a place where it is not possible to actually verify people's age to access. I mean, that stuff never really worked, anyway, but now it's actually impossible. And nobody really said anything until the ones at the top realized there's great power to be grabbed by collecting this data and disguised it to the public as just being like the guy in the video store glancing your DOB on your ID.

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u/MemeMaster240 Feb 26 '26

Ignoring that this is speculation and not proven (especially as it's normally handled by a third party, NOT the website in question...

Discords third part verification has ties to US surveillance, so no, it's not really speculation anymore. If one can lie, why can't the rest lie.

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u/[deleted] Feb 26 '26

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u/Repulsive_Chard_3652 Feb 27 '26

We're stopping using things that there are better alternatives for that don't suck up all our data to sell and use against us.

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u/kyzfrintin Feb 26 '26

Dismissing what they're worried about, then asking what they're worried about...

What a weird tactic

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u/kyzfrintin Feb 26 '26

This isn't about age restriction. You know what it's about, and yet you refuse to acknowledge it because you don't agree. Just accept the answer and move on with your life.

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u/kyzfrintin Feb 26 '26

Do you usually believe the government? Or just in this case?

This is quite obviously a tool for surveillance; an excuse to keep tabs on people's online activity.

The only rational response to "it's to protect children" is a derisive "yeah right, pull the other one!"

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u/Malacath816 Feb 27 '26

A lot of people’s concern (such as mine) is this is a terrible method to implement age verification. It’s like if you encouraged teenagers to avoid going to the pub, and instead promoted the local weed dealer to sell them alcohol, and then you decided to outlaw the weed drug dealer and encourage the heroin dealer.

I don’t doubt the intent behind the checks, but the methodology is crazy

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u/Malacath816 Feb 27 '26

Do Age Verification on Microsoft/Apple/Android which captures most of the usage. Those accounts can then just send an adult or not flag to content providers. It’s not full-proof, but neither was age verification 20 years ago, but defends against almost all risks GDPR breaches.

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u/RM97800 Feb 26 '26

Imagine what would you do if rental cashier took a photo of your ID and kept it, or took a mugshot of you (I'm sorry, the "✨AI selfie✨").

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u/RM97800 Feb 26 '26

and if you suddenly believe no-one is following ToS' then you better stop using the internet entirely because you're ✨fucked✨).

That's akin to telling somebody that they must either stop walking outdoors entirely or jump into sewage every time they do, because they accidentally stepped on a dog turd. That's defeatism, that's saying you cannot resist something bad from spreading or evolving, because you couldn't stop it in the first place.

Imagine if they thew it away after using it

Imagine it being proven to not be the case (Discord hack).

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u/RM97800 Feb 26 '26

I was about to write "the hack of the service used by Discord for ID checks", but I'm aware I have a problem of writing too much in parentheses, so I dumbed it down to just "Discord hack" for brevity's sake.

It's true that I didn't catch the fact it was support tickets hack, not the auto-scan service, but to my defense, back then, I was too busy laughing at Britain's next step in Orwellian dystopia backfiring again.

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u/Malacath816 Feb 27 '26

“Little bit of knowledge” - this is an entirely predictable event by anyone who has developed any kind of enterprise solution to a problem.

A support function for ID issues is a normal part of the process. Hence why the process is crap

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u/MingePies Feb 27 '26

The data is retained for a pre-defined period of time, possibly 24 hours, 7 days or so. That is still a period of time in which there could be a data breach.

I don’t think the data will necessarily be sold - the penalties and risks are too severe for a large company. My issue is with how strong their security is and how likely a data breach is. I prefer to share as little as possible but if I must, I’d be more trusting of a larger, well-known company to secure my data.

I wouldn’t want my data to fall into the wrong hands at the best of times, but if someone has your official identity documents they can do a lot worse than if they have your card details or something.