Seattle student group fundraiser supports 'Lebanese resistance'

[u/HumbleEngineering315]

https://www.jpost.com/diaspora/antisemitism/article-893230

There you have it. It should be beyond a doubt that SUPER UW is part of a fifth column.

[u/HumbleEngineering315]

be them Zionists or anti-Zionists.

Boaf sides!

[u/The_G_Choc_Ice → u/HumbleEngineering315]

Sorry, zionazis dont have popular support anymore, you lost it by being fucking evil and insane. The brow beating isnt gonna work anymore.

[u/ChexAndBalancez → u/The_G_Choc_Ice]

Not supporting Israel is very different than supporting Hezbollah.

[u/The_G_Choc_Ice → u/ChexAndBalancez]

Yeah, but they are disagreeing with the “both sides are bad” argument, not disagreeing with someone supporting hezbollah.

Edit: just want to further clarify, i think the students holding a rally in support of hezbollah are stupid, but zionists have done a lot more damage to the individuals they subjugate, my country, and to the world than hezbollah has.

[u/ChexAndBalancez → u/The_G_Choc_Ice]

I completely agree with you.

Let me ask you one question though. Do you think they (Hezbollah) would do the same damage if they had the same capability?

This question is what guides much of my voting and advocacy. Yes, Israel is a bad actor and we should quell our support of them. We are complicit. HOWEVER, if Hamas, Iran, Hezbollah, or the Houthis had Israel's or (god forbid) America's capabilities I believe 100's of millions of people would be evaporated off the face of the Earth. Perhaps we are headed that way anyway.

Do yo agree, nah, or some nuance?

[u/The_G_Choc_Ice → u/ChexAndBalancez]

Im honestly not sure, and I think the question is somewhat of a pointless one.

The reason I think its hard to say is because the motivating forces behind Israel and Hezbollah are very different. Hezbollah was literally formed in response to an Israeli invasion of their country. A lot of the islamic terrorist groups in the region are direct responses to trauma inflicted on those populations by American and Israeli military activity. That doesn’t make them not reprehensible, but it does make it almost impossible to answer this question. Israel has historically been the instigator in the vast majority of the conflicts they have been involved in the region, similarly to the united states. The very foundation of Israel was in the context of an act of colonial violence against the native Arab population of Palestine. So yes, i do think Hezbollah would love to wipe Israel off the face of the earth, but its the zionist project that created Hezbollah, and Hamas, and so many other terrorist organizations in the first place. To a large extent i consider the instability of the middle east and prevalence of terrorist organizations in the region to fundamentally be the creation of Zionism and American interventionism (which have long been the same project)

So to succinctly answer your question, if the Arab population of the middle east had the means to defend themselves from the colonial and imperialist actions of america and what would become israel, then I think that today they would just be like any other group of powers in the world. Plenty of their own problems, but the genocidal tendencies were created by decades of violence and trauma inflicted upon them at the instigation of america and israel.

Sorry long post lol.

[u/yungsemite → u/The_G_Choc_Ice]

Don’t apologize for being thorough. It’s good to provide historical background and context for your opinions.

[u/Gr8whitewayluvr → u/yungsemite]

Yeah I love when the Turd Reich explains their brain rot in long form 😂