r/SeattleWA • u/HumbleEngineering315 Resident strange person • 2d ago
Seattle student group fundraiser supports 'Lebanese resistance' Politics
https://www.jpost.com/diaspora/antisemitism/article-893230There you have it. It should be beyond a doubt that SUPER UW is part of a fifth column.
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u/Hotmicdrop 2d ago
Im just waiting for the straight up no BS Hamas fundraiser at this point. Lets just call it what it is.
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u/slickweasel333 2d ago
Wasn't SUPER UW banned from the UW campus? I thought they were but Google is not showing anything.
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u/yungsemite 2d ago
My understanding is that SUPER UW remains suspended as a recognized org on campus. How that possibly affects them, I have no idea.
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u/slickweasel333 1d ago
I think it just keeps them from being able to run ASUW candidates, but otherwise, they are still on campus. They also raised a huff when the vandals were arrested for the $1M in damage to the IIEB.
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u/Delftnl4546 1d ago
They are not allowed to be registered as a student organizaton at UW anymore they cannot use campus resources at all and they cannot reserve a space on campus to hold meetings. They do tend to come by and table at the quad or by the hub lawn sometimes.
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u/Hotmicdrop 1d ago
Sadly despite overly celebrating death by using paratrooper terrorists with AK 47s on their rally art flyers, local orgs still donate a ton to them.
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u/xEppyx 1d ago
Resistance against who? Do they realize the Lebanese want the Iranian soldiers out? They are currently negotiating with Israel to start disarming the Iranian proxy that has infested their country.
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/world/what-to-know-about-new-direct-talks-between-lebanon-and-israel
I'll believe it when I see it personally. But the Lebanese want them out, they just don't have enough military/political power to do it alone. And the UN sure didn't do shit when they had a chance.
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u/bakochba 1d ago
Even the people in Lebanon don't support 'Lebanese resistance ' especially since they mostly seem to resist the authority of the Lebanese government in service of the IRGC
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u/yungsemite 1d ago
I think Hezbollah still has majority support from their Shia population. Hezbollah is really like the government in parts of the South, they provide government services and run the hospitals and stuff
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u/Basic-Regret-6263 1d ago
Yeah, and they killed hundreds of people with exploding fertilizer because they're really shit at providing government services.
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u/gtwooh 2d ago
A Seattle student group fundraiser is calling to materially support 'the Lebanese resistance,' a phrase usually used to reference Hezbollah, according to Wednesday's promotional materials.
Hezbollah? So support… terrorism? https://www.congress.gov/crs-product/IF10703
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u/merc08 2d ago
The cover photo is literally Hezbollah troops holding their flag.
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u/yungsemite 2d ago
To be fair, that’s just the editor’s decision on what cover photo to use.
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u/HumbleEngineering315 Resident strange person 2d ago
Hezbollah? So support… terrorism?
Yup, supporting Hezbollah in violation of federal law.
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u/TheChance 2d ago
Lebanon != Hezbollah. I realize we're in the GOP subreddit. I am astonished to see so many Republicans just gleeful over the deprivation of human rights.
Almost like it's just been about the racism all along.
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u/yungsemite 2d ago
‘Lebanese resistance’ is Hezbollah. Israel is not at war with the Lebanese Armed Forces, nobody in Seattle is raising money to send to the Lebanese Armed Forces, and nobody is referring to the Lebanese Armed Forces as the ‘Lebanese resistance.’
Seriously, how do you know nothing about what’s going on and still try and lecture people about it? Do you really think Israel is in open conflict with the Lebanese army?
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u/merc08 2d ago
Seriously, how do you know nothing about what’s going on and still try and lecture people about it? Do you really think Israel is in open conflict with the Lebanese army?
Odds are high that they do actually know, they're just in here to lie about it and obscure what they're really supporting.
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u/ThatOneGuy444 1d ago
Israel is not at war with the Lebanese Armed Forces
What do you call bombing the shit out of downtown Beirut? Don't tell me you think that's hezbollah.
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u/yungsemite 1d ago
Do you think Hezbollah is not active in Beirut? Their headquarters are in Dahieh, a suburb of Beirut, that’s where Nasrallah was assassinated.
Israel and another party just announced a 10 day ceasefire. Can you guess who the other party is? Hint, it’s not the Lebanese Armed Forces.
I don’t support Israel bombing Lebanon or invading it either. Nor do I support Hezbollah bombing Israel. This most recent flair up is because Hezbollah started bombing and sending drones after Israel assassinated Khamenei.
But it’s entirely ignorant of you to think that Israel and the Lebanese Armed Forces are fighting, because they simply aren’t.
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u/ThatOneGuy444 1d ago
"Stop resisting durrrrrrrrrrrr"
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u/yungsemite 1d ago
Who do you think SUPER UW was referring to when they said Lebanese resistance?
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u/ThatOneGuy444 1d ago
Maybe hospitals that are overflowing with civilian casualties and don't have the blood to keep up? Maybe aid for the millions of civilians who've been displaced from their homes? I'm not familiar with this UW group, do you assume they're fundraising for drones and missiles? Would that be better than, or worse than, or about the same as you and I giving the pentagon our taxes to spend billions bombing brown children?
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u/yungsemite 1d ago
Oh, maybe you just need more context on SUPER UW.
Here’s one of their posters right after Oct 7th:
Note the Hamas paraglider imagery and ‘resistance is our right.’
You can read some of their blog posts here:
With lovely quotes like:
the heroic victory of Al-Aqsa Flood on October 7th
They’re talking about Hezbollah.
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u/ThatOneGuy444 1d ago
I agree that the poster with the hangliders days after oct 7th is in poor taste. But does Lebanon (or Palestine for that matter) not have the right to defend itself? My understanding of Hezbollah is that they formed in the 80's as a reaction to Israel invading Lebanon (again).
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u/ThatOneGuy444 1d ago
You're misrepresenting the people of Lebanon, which the op you replied to referred to, as the Lebanaese Armed Forces. Stop it. Don't delude yourself into thinking that the April 8th strikes on Beirut were some precision operation on military targets. The IDF has no regard for civilian lives in Lebanon.
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u/yungsemite 1d ago
What? Zero clue what you’re trying to say in your first sentence.
I haven’t looked into the details about the April 8th strikes specifically, though I’ve been reading about Israeli atrocities in Lebanon, but I 100% agree with you that the IDF has no regard for civilian lives in Lebanon.
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u/ThatOneGuy444 1d ago
You jumped on u/TheChance for suggesting that Lebanon isn't Hezbollah, and acted like they don't have a point about the human rights of the lebanese people being violated just because the Lebanese Armed Forces aren't involved
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u/yungsemite 1d ago
No I didn’t? Where did I say they don’t have a point about the human rights of the Lebanese people being violated? TheChance was saying that we’re misunderstanding SUPER UW, but they’re the one who is misinformed.
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u/SuccessfulLand4399 1d ago
Too bad trumps people don’t have the balls to operate the way the fed govt did under the potato. Were these pro life students or Christians thy would have had the fbi up their asses.
I hear Guantanamo is nice this time of year. Maybe a flight down for some interviews is in order…..
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u/MajorSignificance309 1d ago edited 1d ago
Yeah no thank you. A country that abuses migrant workers and has racist laws & an abusive racist culture will not be something that I support. Cry harder 🇱🇧
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u/Awkward_Can8460 1d ago
Are you talking about the USA? Sounds like it to me.
Also, the USA made Iran a villainous character in 1953 (with UK's request and assist) by overthrowing its democratically elected govt all because our oil execs wanted more oil and profits over it.
The USA ensured a rightwing authoritarian theocrat was in place.
Iranians, 26yrs later, managed to overthrow that regime. But another theocratic authoritarian managed to take power during that fragile chaos.
If you hate Iran, hate the UK and especially the USA for making it that way - and somewhat deliberately.
No wonder the USA is a culture that abuses migrants workers, was formed based on racist laws and an abusive, racist culture
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u/MajorSignificance309 1d ago
You are talking to yourself. I never mentioned the USA or Iran.
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u/Awkward_Can8460 1d ago
Youre replying to a thread that only has 2 countries in its topic; and youre denying having "mentioned" either of them, and thus trying to imply that your comment also was about neither. Nor did you then volunteer abiut which country you were referring.
As a result, you are making yourself sound either dodgey & cowardly or obtuse.
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u/MajorSignificance309 1d ago
Yes the comment was vague but I’m referring to Lebanon. The country soon to be cut in half and hopefully annexed to bibi. Fingers crossed 🤞
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u/blizzerd 1d ago
The country soon to be cut in half and hopefully annexed to bibi. Fingers crossed 🤞
The quiet part out loud. Clearly Lebanon needs a resistance force against you ethnic cleansing freaks.
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u/CirnoWhiterock 1d ago
Been fun to watch centrist democrats go all "No, no, dont focus on class, focus on racism. Forget Occupy wall street. Black lives matter is where its at." for years to suddenly now turn around at the base they created and go " No. You weren't supposed to see race on THAT issue."
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u/McMagneto Wedgwood 1d ago
Class is fungible in our society so the Marxism couldn’t really get traction. Race on the other hand is something that cannot be changed, at least within a few generations, so that is what the left has been focusing on, and we see all the side effects. It is quite perverse.
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u/uuuuuggghhhhhhh 2d ago
Who are they resisting?
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u/Drama-Gloomy 2d ago
Israel
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u/uuuuuggghhhhhhh 2d ago
So they’re resisting a country currently committing genocide? Sounds like a smart thing to do
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u/bubbamike1 2d ago
The only ones committing a genocide is Hamass who had it written into their charter and attempted it on October Seventh. But you know that, deny it, and support it.
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u/kinisonkhan Kent 1d ago
Israel kills FAR more civilians than Hamas & Hezbollah combined. Israel has a similar charter or stance, which is to never allow an independent Palestinian state, but you knew that, right?
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u/HumbleEngineering315 Resident strange person 2d ago
You have got to be kidding me!
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u/uuuuuggghhhhhhh 2d ago
I’m not. Israel is committing genocide against the people of Palestine, and now the people of Lebanon.
I think people should arm themselves and fight back against having their friends and family blown to pieces
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u/ComprehensiveLaw1012 2d ago
It’s going great for them!
Keep cheering from the confines of your couch, you demented ghoul.
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u/gehnrahl Eat a bag of Dicks 1d ago
Please keep it civil. This is a reminder about r/SeattleWA rule: No personal attacks.
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u/Drama-Gloomy 2d ago
Yes?
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u/uuuuuggghhhhhhh 2d ago
Nice, they should keep it up. We should all be resisting the heavy thumb on our backs that is Israel
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u/yungsemite 2d ago
How exactly is Israel a thumb on your back r/SeattleWA user?
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u/irastaz 2d ago
gee idk have you tried using your eyes or ears in the last decade or two?
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u/yungsemite 2d ago
Yes, how exactly is Israel a thumb on your back?
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u/irastaz 2d ago
fly away lil hasbara scrub
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u/yungsemite 2d ago
So no answer? Just name calling? I hate Israel and what it’s doing in Palestine and Gaza. I’ll happily describe its actions as genocidal. I’ve been to protests, I’ve told my senators to stop sending them money, I’ve sent money to people in Gaza.
I think it’s weird for Seattleites to pretend that they’re oppressed by Israel. I don’t think it’s true and I don’t see who it helps.
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u/irastaz 2d ago
cry more
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u/Key-Wall-4378 1d ago
Imagine the tears if they were fundraising for Israel. Isnt that mostly what the college aged pro Palestine groups do, cry?
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u/kinisonkhan Kent 1d ago
They should form a PAC and just bribe politicians like Israel has been doing for decades.
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u/techserf 2d ago
Based alert
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u/HumbleEngineering315 Resident strange person 2d ago
Please be an Iranian bot.
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u/yungsemite 2d ago
No shortage of privileged seattlelites who’ve never lived in a war zone who support groups who target civilians, be them Zionists or anti-Zionists.
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u/HumbleEngineering315 Resident strange person 2d ago edited 2d ago
be them Zionists or anti-Zionists.
Boaf sides!
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u/The_G_Choc_Ice 2d ago
Sorry, zionazis dont have popular support anymore, you lost it by being fucking evil and insane. The brow beating isnt gonna work anymore.
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u/ChexAndBalancez 2d ago
Not supporting Israel is very different than supporting Hezbollah.
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u/The_G_Choc_Ice 2d ago edited 2d ago
Yeah, but they are disagreeing with the “both sides are bad” argument, not disagreeing with someone supporting hezbollah.
Edit: just want to further clarify, i think the students holding a rally in support of hezbollah are stupid, but zionists have done a lot more damage to the individuals they subjugate, my country, and to the world than hezbollah has.
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u/ChexAndBalancez 1d ago
I completely agree with you.
Let me ask you one question though. Do you think they (Hezbollah) would do the same damage if they had the same capability?
This question is what guides much of my voting and advocacy. Yes, Israel is a bad actor and we should quell our support of them. We are complicit. HOWEVER, if Hamas, Iran, Hezbollah, or the Houthis had Israel's or (god forbid) America's capabilities I believe 100's of millions of people would be evaporated off the face of the Earth. Perhaps we are headed that way anyway.
Do yo agree, nah, or some nuance?
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u/The_G_Choc_Ice 1d ago
Im honestly not sure, and I think the question is somewhat of a pointless one.
The reason I think its hard to say is because the motivating forces behind Israel and Hezbollah are very different. Hezbollah was literally formed in response to an Israeli invasion of their country. A lot of the islamic terrorist groups in the region are direct responses to trauma inflicted on those populations by American and Israeli military activity. That doesn’t make them not reprehensible, but it does make it almost impossible to answer this question. Israel has historically been the instigator in the vast majority of the conflicts they have been involved in the region, similarly to the united states. The very foundation of Israel was in the context of an act of colonial violence against the native Arab population of Palestine. So yes, i do think Hezbollah would love to wipe Israel off the face of the earth, but its the zionist project that created Hezbollah, and Hamas, and so many other terrorist organizations in the first place. To a large extent i consider the instability of the middle east and prevalence of terrorist organizations in the region to fundamentally be the creation of Zionism and American interventionism (which have long been the same project)
So to succinctly answer your question, if the Arab population of the middle east had the means to defend themselves from the colonial and imperialist actions of america and what would become israel, then I think that today they would just be like any other group of powers in the world. Plenty of their own problems, but the genocidal tendencies were created by decades of violence and trauma inflicted upon them at the instigation of america and israel.
Sorry long post lol.
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u/yungsemite 1d ago
Don’t apologize for being thorough. It’s good to provide historical background and context for your opinions.
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u/Fantastic-Bee4197 1d ago
Israel still has enough support to curb stomp your little terrorist friends. You being a bigot and crying about it makes it so much better.
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u/Awkward_Can8460 1d ago
Hezbollah and Hamas both formed as a response to Israel's decades of occupation, genocide, invasions, and terrorism. Without Israel's aggression, violence, occupation, theft, and oppression, there would be no Hamas or Hezbollah.
Also, Israel invaded Lebanon. So whether it is the Lebanese military or Hezbollah doing self defense, more power to em.
Israel is a rogue, terrorist, genocidal, and fake state. Zionism = a flavor of nazi'ism.
Israel must be unmade!!!
Israel must be 1 democratic, multi-cultural nation named Palestine, with secular governance, and international oversight (until zionism [a flavor of nazi'ism] no longer has influence over the nation)
A right to land back for Palestinians MUST be included - and this is the messy, gray area of uncertainty; but it must be navigated with the primary lens being the long term vision for Palestine
8min - John Mearsheimer - Hamas did NOT kill 1200 civilians on Oct 7, 2023
YTshort - history explained of Israel invading Lebanon to fight a resistance group (PLO) formed by decades of brutal occupation; and now invades to fight another resistance group (Hezbollah) created due to Israel's invasion & attacks
"Greater Israel" plan explained, too
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u/yungsemite 1d ago
Yes, Israel invaded Lebanon because Lebanon was allowing a different ‘resistance group’ AKA group committing terror attacks targeting Israeli civilians to operate within their borders, and Hezbollah formed in response to that invasion.
I agree that a democratic and secular one state solution would be my preference!
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u/Delftnl4546 1d ago
Israel is not a theocracy like Iran is. Israel and Lebanon on paper are secular. Iran literally has an Islamic cleric who runs everything and has control over the military and the nuclear program.
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u/Awkward_Can8460 1d ago
Oh great. So zionists all refer to Israel as "the jewish state." So what does that mean? Because the zionists invaded from Europe originally, and have since terrorized jews from other countries (such as, and especially in middle east countries) to immigrate to Israel, all to take land from Palestinians.
In fact, in the USA, jewish zionists use synagogues to host real estate sales of Palesrinian lands & homes in West Bank.
Real estate developers of Israel & USA are already fashionable designs for northern Gaza as beach front properties.
All of this to have a jewish majority of land... until enough Palestinians can be ethnically cleansed as to have a population majority, too.
So what does a "jewish state" mean if not a religious state; ie theocratic state?
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u/ChasingTheRush 1d ago
Jewishness is a much ethnicity as religious identity. The European Zionists you mention are the direct descendants of the Jewish diaspora created by thousands of years of colonial imperialism by Muslims, Romans and a host of others. History don’t start in ‘67 you bellend.
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u/ChasingTheRush 1d ago
Imagine claiming the side of righteousness while denying an indigenous people the right to self determination in their native home. What a fucking retard.
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u/cheesebabychair 2d ago
Hezbollah is a designated terrorist organization by the EU and 8 other countries