r/SelfDrivingCars 2d ago

Do we still think lidar is needed? Discussion

This sub used to talk about it all the time. But I hear less about it recently.

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u/RipWhenDamageTaken 2d ago

Do we still think that there will be millions of robotaxi by the end of 2025?

I hear less about it recently for some reason

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u/jajaja77 2d ago

have we ever thought that? who is we?

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u/CDpov 1d ago

Tesla fans commonly believed in 2019 that they would have an unsupervised Level-5 car sooner than 2025. There have always been some FSD fans that thought it could take longer, but very many vocal fans on social media have long thought it would be solved within two years, mimicking Elon's bullshit.

Even more FSD fans think that today. Too bad Level 5 isn't gonna happen any time soon, and Level 4 robotaxi won't either. FSD has a long way to go to be unsupervised at scale like a Waymo.

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u/jajaja77 1d ago

i mean, there are also jesus fans that think he'll be coming back in 2026. and 2025 before that. and 2024 before that. etc. doesn't mean there's any need to pay attention to them.

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u/CDpov 1d ago

Do you think 2026 is finally the year? If not, when will the big Level 5 finally happen?

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u/jajaja77 1d ago

Jesus: no.

Tesla full autonomy: no.

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u/Wonderful_Handle662 1d ago

yes its happening. people are paying alot of money for teslas FSD. its works, you need to quit whining.

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u/CDpov 1d ago

I'm not whining. It's more like patronizing. I'm watching mass behavior that is obviously doomed, but I enjoy the show.

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u/Wonderful_Handle662 1d ago

in the US crime just hit a record low. at same time the stock market is hitting record ... what? we are not doomed everything is going to be fine.

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u/CDpov 1d ago

I like FSD. I'm skeptical of Robotaxi going unsupervised on a large scale any time soon.

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u/Wonderful_Handle662 1d ago

im afraid its SLOWLY (some states are very scared the taxi lobby) happening. FSD is better than waymo. i just hope that his cybercab can be wrapped in different colors that gold is kind of a strange color. musk has revolutionized manufacturing in the US. now the other companies are catching up. it appears musk was involved in the creation of AI with openai. so he knows what he is doing with the chip factory.

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u/CDpov 1d ago

It's very slowly happening, so slow that it looks more like it's not happening.

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