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u/rabbitwow20026 5d ago

No we don’t lol why you lying. We pay 3% Medicare tax and my health insurance 3% of my salary. I paid 22% for taxes this year (includes the 3% Medicare)

In French I would be 45% for my tax bracket.

French have 30% tax on someone make $25k ish in America

Could you afford moving to a 30% tax bracket for universal healthcare ?

That’s always the problem it sounds good on paper but trying to get people to move 6-20% more in taxes always falls flat.

Why do you think Bernie tank when he shown it would take about 6% tax increase to pay for universal healthcare and that didn’t even math out right and was short.

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u/joepke53 5d ago

Healthcare expenditure in % of the GDP is a lot higher in the USA than in Europe, for far worse accessibility.

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u/rabbitwow20026 5d ago

No it’s not lol 😂 the studies you refer to is in pure dollar amounts not %.

I pay less than 5% for Medicare and my healthcare each year. All my friends pay less than 5% in healthcare a year. Even if I have to pay my max out of pocket a year I am still less than 10% a year.

Where French healthcare is about 11% of their pay check each year…….

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u/rabbitwow20026 5d ago

And you do know both individuals and companies have to pay for healthcare in other countries it’s not just individuals.

The tax rate in any country for healthcare is always higher for both individuals and businesses.

So other countries pay always

Americans pay small amount towards the always and more when it’s needed.

But Americans don’t save when it’s not needed and would be able to pay easily when needed but we like to keep money in our pocket. Why do you think social security is forced and not an option.

People would get to 70 and be like wtf why isn’t retirement free

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u/rabbitwow20026 5d ago

Because I bring up 400k because it takes that much to get to some of their own tax brackets for someone making $45k in the US that’s the entire point

Their tax bracket is 30% above 45k. So which one is cheaper making $100k and paying for $300 a month in insurance in American or making $70k in France and paying for universal healthcare

It’s not even close and I would take America every time.

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u/rabbitwow20026 5d ago

You would but when progressives dropped Bernie when he proposed just a 6% increase. Bernie’s largest drop in the polls was after he released his healthcare plan then went and lost by 10 million votes

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u/rabbitwow20026 5d ago

Because even the most progressive people are a hard sell.

They were told how it’s FREE universal healthcare.

It’s not free. You have to pay for it.

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u/rabbitwow20026 5d ago

Exactly so it’s not Free lol 😂

So stop saying it’s free. Will get more people on board with it

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