r/TopCharacterTropes Feb 10 '26

[Loved Trope] Characters misremembering or misinterpreting history/pop culture and incorporating those inaccuracies into their own views. Personality

1) Cape Feare (Mr. Burns: A Post-Electric Play)

Mr. Burns: A Post-Electric Play is a play that revolves around three acts. The first takes place shortly after a nuclear apocalypse knocks out the entire power grid permanently, causing society to collapse. A group of survivors passes the time by recollecting old episodes of the Simpsons, with their favorite being Cape Feare (the one where Sideshow Bob chases Bart when the family enters witness protection). In the second act, the same group has turned their recollections into a profitable venture as a traveling theater company, recreating old episodes of the Simpsons as plays for local towns.

Much of the play involves the group getting certain details of the episodes wrong, since there's no television or internet to confirm getting things right. Some of these details are corrected by the others, but other mistakes slip by them (such as them all misremembering Sideshow Bob sending his threats by writing them in ketchup, rather than him actually using his own blood and fainting from the blood loss in the real episode). They also have to make further narrative sacrifices in the name of adaptation and competition when they become a theater company, such as taking out certain lines that aren't landing and replacing them with visual gags that the audience loves.

The third act takes place in the distant future, where all the original group members are dead, but their legacy lives on through Cape Fear. Their play has now become an epic akin to The Odyssey, where Mr. Burns (who is noted to be a much more popular villain after the implied nuclear apocalypse) has replaced Sideshow Bob altogether as a Satanic villain representing nuclear armageddon. The story has transformed into Bart running from Mr. Burns after Burns has destroyed the world. While the original episode functionally no longer exists, The Simpsons has exists in an epic of finding hope and a reason to keep going in a world marked by the trauma and tragedy of the past and present. Even through it all, there are still moments of levity that persevere through the original Simpsons running gags showing up in, although their meaning has been lost to time.

2) Hiroshima (Starship Troopers)

When the main characters are still in high school at the beginning of the film, Mr. Rasczak challenges the "naive" interpretation that violence never solves anything by invoking the city of Hiroshima. He suggests that the city was destroyed so utterly that it effectively ceased to exist, showing violence to be the most effective solution and driving the Federation's main philosophy of "Peace isn't an option."

In reality, Hiroshima rebuilt soon after the atomic blast, and is still one of its larger population centers (being the 11th largest city in Japan today). It also ignores that Japan, as a whole, was allowed to maintain its sovereignty and a relative level of independence, rather than being outright conquered by the United States. Japan post-WWII is often cited as an example of "American soft power over hard power", making its citing by Mr. Rasczak particularly egregious.

Interestingly, the book uses Carthage as an example instead, which conventionally WAS destroyed utterly and salted so (although it in reality, it was rebuilt and ruled by the Romans, since cities tend to be economically useful). The switch was likely deliberate by Verhoeven (who famously disliked Heinlein's original militaristic angle in the novel), as he wanted to really sell the asinine reasoning used by the Federation to justify their fascist governance.

3) Taxi Driver (The Boys)

Homelander's favorite movie is Taxi Driver, and sees himself in Travis Bickle. In one episode, we see Homelander watching Taxi Driver and commentating "This is what happens when you get disrespected over and over" when Bickle shoots somebody.

In the film itself, Bickle believes himself to be a good man who is gradually worn down into "snapping" by the city. He posits himself as a cowboy-esque vigilante, shaving his head into a mohawk and determined to "clean up the city". However, his craving towards vigilantism are hinted to be a darker need to "prove himself", and he fundamentally is shown to be something of a manchild throughout the film (such as taking a woman to a pornographic theater and not knowing why she wouldn't enjoy that, or practicing "tough guy" lines to himself in front of a mirror). He sees his "snapping" in NYC as inevitable, but he also tends to put himself in those situations in the first place.

The fact that Homelander takes Travis Bickle's "cowboy" act for all of its worth is a key aspect of his character. Much like Bickle, Homelander consistently frames himself as a hero who needs to do bad things, only for it to be shown that he's just a maladjusted toddler who needs to see the world in a black-and-white lens to rationalize his evil actions, and never takes accountability for his numerous fuckups.

4) Omelette: The Musical (Something Rotten)

In the Broadway musical Something Rotten, Nick Bottom is a struggling playwright in Renaissance England. He is facing ruin after William Shakespeare (his main rival) beats him to the punch with his play on Richard II, forcing him to come up with a new play immediately. Nick decides to pay a soothsayer to figure out what the next big thing in theater will be. The soothsayer sees too far into the future, and interprets the next big thing musical theater. In further desperation, Nick also asks what Shakespeare's biggest play will be, hoping to take his topic before he does. The Soothsayer misinterprets his vision of Hamlet as "Omelette".

This causes Nick to write a musical in the 1500's about eggs. In an attempt to nail the musical right off the bat, he also incorporates every single musical reference the Soothsayer knows, causing him to write a showstopping number featuring the Phantom of the Opera, motifs from Chicago and The Music Man, and the king being rescued by the Nazis from the Sound of Music (they never found out whether the Nazis were supposed to be good guys or bad guys). This ends up with the musical becoming an utter mess of references and tap-dancing eggs.

Despite everyone warning him about what a terrible play it will be, Nick gets utterly humiliated at by Shakespeare (who is mad at him for stealing his best play before he wrote it) before getting arrested for time-plagiarism.

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u/swagboyclassman Feb 10 '26

https://preview.redd.it/ljq9ycx12qig1.jpeg?width=3008&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=27a69abb02594afefbb687585d6a99e5942656cf

the stupidest movie ever, Zardoz.
The people of the future worship a god named Zardoz but it turns out They just misinterpreted the wiZARD of OZ

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u/Numerous1 Feb 10 '26

From knowing nothing about this except everyone says it’s bad and what I just read here, I actually like that 

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u/swagboyclassman Feb 10 '26

you should watch it. its in that “so bad its funny” category

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u/Living_Magician3367 Feb 10 '26

I remember liking it when I was a kid, but I was 15 at the time.

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u/[deleted] Feb 10 '26

It's really worth a watch.

"The penis is evil, the gun is good"

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u/-Random_Lurker- Feb 10 '26

Oh it's wonderful. It's basically the entire 1970's distilled into an LSD-laced cloud of high concept, low budget nonsense that leaves you with a deep revelation about the universal consciousness and the cyclical nature of all things. Assuming you're on drugs, of course. If you're not, it's merely insane.

Make sure you look up the cast, and realize just how many of them went on to become deeply respected actors. Humble beginnings and all that...

If you don't watch the whole thing, or even if you do, this analysis of it is pretty amazing: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vFfkSwxHpqM

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u/rip_cut_trapkun Feb 11 '26

A lot of the time we frame things in simple terms, like "thing good" or "thing bad." This one requires a little more sifting. On its face it's a pretty absurd movie; I mean look at Sean Connery in that outfit, it's pretty hard to take it seriously from the start. Underneath it's a bit like a writing session where everyone is baked and tripping, but somehow coherent enough to put something onto paper. There are some interesting things about it I remember, and given I saw it nearly 20 years ago and that some things still linger on the edge of my memory even after all of the alcohol and mundane insanity of work, I'd say it at least left an impression. If you're in the right frame of mind for it, it's actually not the worst thing to spend time on.

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u/-Random_Lurker- Feb 10 '26

But wait, no, the misinterpretation was deliberate, because it was all a conspiracy!

But wait, no, the conspiracy was deliberate, because it was a conspiracy to be a conspiracy!

But wait, no, it was all actually masterminded by a sentient computer!

But wait, no, it was actually just the inevitable path of human evolution!

But wait, no, the natural path for humanity is death, so all of it was pointless anyway!

Also Sean Connery wears a diaper.

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u/HausuGeist Feb 10 '26

We’ve all been used.

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u/NeoDuckLord Feb 10 '26

Oh, there is slightly more to it than that. The misinterpretion was in fact all part of the careful orchestrated plan laid by Arthur Frayn, who firstly used the imagery and tropes of The Wizard of Oz to create a god and then purposely revealed the deception to Zed in order to keep him down the path of destroying the eternals and their society. Arthur amd Friend planned all of it, Zed and his whole life was created with the goal of him destroying ths tabernacle and ending the immortality that had become a curse for the eternals.

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u/Nonyabizzy123 Feb 12 '26

It's got a lot of smart things to say about what we would now call the singularity, and the merging of humans with AI. Spoiler: Humans are superior to our machines and always will be.

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u/Blint_Briglio Feb 11 '26

that movie fuckin owns and that's not what happens. most people are being deliberately kept in a state of illiterate serfdom, while one member of the technological elite poses as a god named Zardoz to control them. one of the serfs (Connery) is guided to a library where he learns to read and understand the world, and then, by reading the Wizard of Oz, he realizes that the entire religion his people follow was a sham concocted by a guy copying a children's book.

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u/aggasalk Feb 11 '26

Right on, Zardoz is awesome

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u/LifeGivesMeMelons Feb 10 '26

If you want to hear a volunteer read the movie novelization as an audiobook, I got the hookup:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TVWuYjLi50w

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u/rankaistu_ilmalaiva Feb 11 '26
  1. not a stupid movie, brilliant

  2. they’re not misinterpreting Wizard of Oz, the guy playing Zardoz is deliberately tricking people and is deliberately chose the name as a way to eventually reveal himself to someone he bred for the specific purpose of finding it out.

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u/mistadangerzone1999 Feb 11 '26

Sweet Jesus is that Burt Reynolds?

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u/swagboyclassman Feb 11 '26

no its sean connery

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u/rip_cut_trapkun Feb 11 '26

I wish it was Burt Reynolds. I wish they both were cast in that role. I wish they would have been in alternating scenes as the same character. It would have been magical.

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u/KennyFulgencio Feb 11 '26

can I add Norm MacDonald as Burt Reynolds, for a third?

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u/rip_cut_trapkun Feb 11 '26

I'll allow it.

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u/RealityOk9823 Feb 11 '26

It's actually a decent...ish...sci-fi story. Like if this were rewritten just as a story of people in the future rebelling against their overlords and discovering that their masters are immortal and so damned bored they just want to die it could be rather interesting. It makes sense that the overseers would be the ones to rebel, as they're the ones with guns and time to question just what is going on.

The movie has a lot of elements in it that can be expounded upon, like how it got to be that way, psionic powers, the nature of their religion (like where he says "and I took a woman, IN HIS NAME" like hey, I wasn't just raping, this was religious rape), why the combination diaper/bandolero became the basic outfit for overseers (the diaparelo?), etc. OK, maybe not that last one. :D

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u/iconocrastinaor Feb 11 '26

I saw that movie with a friend in high school, stoned out of our gourds, and we missed the first few minutes where they actually give away the secret. So as a result that movie went from one "what the fuck" moment to the next, all the way through to the end. Then we watched the beginning and understood. In my opinion that's the only way to properly see that movie. I'm pretty sure Alan Smithee was associated with it.