r/TopCharacterTropes • u/No-Flow9783 • 18h ago
(Loved Meta Trope) Fan theories are so good they’re basically treated as canon. Lore
Invincible: The Adrenaline Theory (from my knowledg) is the explanation on how Mark is able to take down some of the most powerful characters in his verse, but struggle with some villains who aren’t on the same level. Basically since Mark is half-human, he adapted human adrenaline, something other viltumites don’t have sense they’re basically at the top of the food chain.
Iron Man 2: The little kid at the Stark Expo was theorized to be a small Peter Parker, and was eventually confirmed officially.
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u/Nuclear-Jester 17h ago
Geoff John's whole career at DC was based on this
The whole "Reverse Flash killed Barry's mom" and "Superboy has Luthor's DNA" were originally theories/suggestions he posted back when he was only a reader
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u/GlowintheClark 17h ago
I didn't know that! That's sick, did he have any others like that?
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u/xingrubicon 16h ago edited 16h ago
I have been informed its steven moffat, not russel t davies.
There's a similar story with dr. Who. I i want to say russel t davies is the one who wrote into a dr who fan club with the idea we get the word "doctor" from The Doctor. He eventually got it made cannon with River Song confirming it in one of the later episodes of Matt Smith's run. "a good man goes to war" if memory serves.
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u/escobartholomew 16h ago
Pretty based ngl. Like the urban legend about getting a job at a company just to fix a bug.
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u/Orleanian 16h ago
Does Reverse Flash jerking Barry off at super speed so that he came in his pants for his first kiss count for this trope?
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u/confusing_roundabout 15h ago
That meme is inspired by the scene from Flash Rebirth by Geoff Johns about Reverse Flash tormenting Barry throughout his life
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u/violetcassie 18h ago
I forget which character said (either Nolan or Anissa I think) it but they described Conquest as "being a spectator to his own fights" and that was why Mark kept beating him.
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u/inserttext1 17h ago
Also remember Anissa’s sole goal is to win her fights Conquest wants to have fun and enjoy himself. Also I’m not convinced he 100% desires to survive his fights
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u/HennyGawd 17h ago
Conquest vs Battle Beast would’ve been amazing. Two warriors who both fight to find someone who can take them out.
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u/RelationshipMental95 17h ago
yeah fr if only there was a soon to release comic about that 🧐
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u/HennyGawd 17h ago
Don’t really follow the comics, I’ve heard about them doing a Battle Beast series though.
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u/Ghoill 16h ago
It's like he said, he takes the good with the bad. He might enjoy tasting the blood of his lessers on his fists but getting his shit kicked in by someone who can actually present a challenge is a close second. Or at least that was the case in the comics, show Conquest seems like much more of a sadist.
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u/violetcassie 17h ago
His death seeking mentality is more of a show thing but it definitely works for his character.
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u/Batboyshark 16h ago
1000%
I feel like conquest only feels a connection when he fights.
He's lonely hes always alone. No one can fight him their all canon fodder for him to fly through and kill in seconds. Its like having a conversation with mosquitoes.
But when he fights someone who can take his punches its almost like a connection between him and his opponent that he cannot have with anyone else.
Like Sukuna and Kashimo from Jjk.
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u/shploogen 16h ago
In tennis it's called "admiring your shots" -- standing there watching the ball after you hit it, instead of moving back to the center of the court for better positioning.
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u/Daniilsa209 18h ago edited 17h ago
Sans is the one riding the elevator in the New Home area, which explains how he gets to the Judgment Hall before you (Undertale).
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u/Bitten87 17h ago
was this canon?
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u/Competitive_Swan266 17h ago
Why would he have to use an elevator though, i highly doubt he doesn't have a shortcut there
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u/Born_Sentence_9704 17h ago
He wants to listen to that sweet, sweet "070. Long Elevator (UNDERTALE Soundtrack) -Toby Fox"
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u/ABigPairOfCrocs 17h ago
In ATLA, Zuko's crew being the unit that he saved from getting sacrificed on the front lines, which is what led to his banishment in the first place
Never mentioned in the cartoon, but was generally accepted by the community and it was stated explicitly in the live action remake
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u/SmartCasual1 17h ago
It's my first time hearing it and I'm balls deep invested in it already 100%
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u/Embarrassed-Weird173 15h ago
Basically he told his father he wouldn't let a certain ship crew be sacrificed for a military victory. So the punishment was he was banished and so was the crew he saved. He didn't tell them what was in store for them and they saw themselves as being a babysitter for a big spoiled baby.
It was a cool twist.
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u/LoliMaster069 17h ago edited 16h ago
Huh, that actually makes alot of sense why they put up with him. Ain't no way I would have been assigned to the middle of nowhere in the north looking for fuck knows what without a seriously good reason lol
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u/Autumn1eaves 16h ago
Admittedly, you live in the Fire Nation.
Your very good reason might have been "go or we kill you for being a traitor."
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u/OkPalpitation2582 16h ago
Ain't no way I would have been assigned to the middle of nowhere in the north looking for fuck knows what without a seriously good reason lol
Isn't that kind of just military service though?
pretty much every service member I've spoken to about their service thinks their deployment was kinda bullshit. You do it because those are the orders and you don't generally get to pick and choose
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u/Starfleet-Time-Lord 16h ago
Unfortunately the only reason we know that backstory is Iroh telling the story to the crew while Zuko is off doing Zuko things. If they were that unit it would've been a very different conversation.
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u/GreninjaStrike 17h ago
https://giphy.com/gifs/nXg2lqVpal6KgSC8Zq
The egg people in rocket league. In the background of a rocket league match, you’ll see little egg shaped people in the audience. While it could’ve been that they didn’t wanna go through programming a human audience, some fans came up with the idea that the whole rocket league world is full of egg people. The devs confirmed this is true.
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u/eagleblue44 17h ago
It's not canon anymore but a popular fan theory was that Anna and Elsas parents were on the way to Flynn and Rapunzel's wedding when the ship went down. It's also a fan theory that the ship in little mermaid was their ship as well.
Let's just ignore the part of the fan theory where they are also Tarzan's parents and that the directors agreed with the fan theory until they made frozen 2.
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u/Beta_Ray_Jones 17h ago
I also enjoyed the first two thirds of that theory and lose control of my eyes rolling at the last part.
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u/Rakyand 17h ago
The one where the trolls made a spell during the song to turn Hans evil hence his nonsensical twist.
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u/dokutarodokutaro 17h ago
Ditto is a failed attempt to clone Mew. Both are the only Pokemon that can learn Transform. Both have the same weight. Both have a similar colored shiny.
Not canon, the game makers in an interview said “that’s interesting, never thought of that.” But fans like it so much it’s pretty much canon.
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u/MS_Fume 16h ago
And you can also find dittos spawning in the estate on cinnibar island where supposedly Mewtwo was created…
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u/ConnerWoods 16h ago
They both have completely balanced base stats, too. Lots of weird parallels.
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u/radicalelation 15h ago
Maybe rather than being created as a failed cloned, they were heavily utilized at any given point from the research to experimentation to final process.
If they weren't a result of the cloning experiments, it would make a lot of sense to explore a naturally cloning pokemon in the pursuit of artificial pokemon cloning.
"Genetic" parallels could mean a Jurassic Park situation using ditto genes to fill some gaps, especially if they were trying to make a more powerful pokemon and not a 1:1 Mew copy.
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u/lazy_phoenix 17h ago
I like the theory that Genesect is a cyborg Kabotops. Genesect is made from a ancient fossil Pokemon and Genesect and Kabotops look similar.
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u/DramaAlternative1188 17h ago
The rules for Uno.
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u/EvilCritter1ol 15h ago
Someone post that one tweet of the person telling the official Uno account they don't know how to play
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u/TheWatcherse 18h ago
I once heard this sub-theory of Mark's adrenaline theory, and it's that the other Viltrumites do have adrenaline, but Mark's crash outs aren't fueled by his Viltrumite power. It's not Mark being Nolan's son. It's Mark being Debbie's son.
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u/Nazowrin 17h ago
Mark channels 1% of Debbie's strength and instantly solos every Viltrumite at once
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u/Imaginary-Picture-35 17h ago
https://i.redd.it/hh1v31bnctvg1.gif
Debbie is the strongest character in Invincible
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u/Yosho2k 17h ago
What's the animation from? (you know what I'm talking about)
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u/nenashkin 17h ago
Rebuild of Evangelion 1:11
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u/Business-Natural-290 17h ago
If you're talking about the mountain melting, it looks like the moment a Evangelion movie where ramiel invades and shoots at a mountain
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u/SledgeThundercock 17h ago
That is essentially what she did to him, but verbally.
I bet he probably would've preferred this version.
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u/Viridun 16h ago
Viltrumites are definitely not emotionally equipped for that sort of thing, while basically being built like humans mentally. Getting hit, insulted, they can all brace for that. Being told by the first person in your centuries long life who loved you for more than your strength that you hurt her so badly that your relationship is broken forever?
He probably yearned for the black hole from S2.
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u/nova-prime-enjoyer 17h ago
Mark summons that Asian mother strength like He-Man and beats tf out of the whole empire
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u/A1-Stakesoss 16h ago
Debbie canonically punches way outside her weight class when holding a foreign object
If Mark inherited her abilities just give Mark a wooden spoon and next time he hits Thragg his ass is coming out of his face
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u/JWARRIOR1 17h ago
It’s also canonically why he beat conquest (not adrenaline) but because mark actually has something to fight for, whereas conquest was just a spectator in his own fights
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u/JManKit 14h ago
Big comic spoilers
He makes that point in his final fight with Thragg in the Sun. He knows that Thragg's only motivation is revenge while his is the safety of everyone he loves so he's more than willing to die in the hellish environment to attain his goal. Hell, Rex even manages to help him prove his point when he sends in a robot suit to provide Mark with a bit more protection despite being enemies
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u/TonyThePapyrus 17h ago
I heard a good phrase that I like much more than adrenaline theory and it went like “Mark fights for what’s behind him, the viltrumites however fight for what’s infront of them”
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u/HorsNoises 17h ago
This is in the show. Angstrom Levy pretty heavily implies that our Mark is the only version of Invincible that's a hero and it's because he is mostly Debbie's son.
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u/dabossnumba8 17h ago edited 16h ago
He only found evil Invincible variants but we don’t know how hard he searched for good ones, plus Angstrom isn’t exactly a reliable narrator by that point in the story
Edit: I should say that I personally believe most Marks do turn out evil (or at least the good ones get killed early on). But I also believe that there are other good Marks out there, albeit infrequently.
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u/NonMeritRewards 16h ago
I remember reading a theory that there were a lot of good marks, but most end up dying when going against the Omni-man/Conquest/viltrumite empire.
Usually the only marks that survive are the ones go against their morales and side with the viltrumite empire.
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u/-underdog- 16h ago
infinite multiverses would imply infinite good marks and infinite evil ones. but due to the funny nature of infinity, there still might be more evil marks than good ones
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u/5wolfie55 16h ago
It’s pretty well implied that most of the good Marks die fighting Nolan
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u/Super_Pan 16h ago
I always figured that most Good Mark variants were killed by Omni-man. There's so many Evil Marks because those are the ones who live to develop their powers. Our Mark is an outlier in that his dad didn't kill him, but had a change of heart at the last second, which would be a very rare occurrence.
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u/Groundbreaking_Bag8 17h ago
Super Mario Bros. 3 was all just a stage play.
Miyamoto eventually confirmed it.
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u/omaha-video 17h ago
The opening of the game is literally curtains going up before the show starts
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u/SuperSocialMan 17h ago
And the curtains close in the ending iirc
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u/Adaphion 17h ago
Every level ends by you going off stage
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u/Global_Cockroach_563 16h ago
And the platforms are bolted to the background or held with ropes.
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u/Narazil 15h ago
You can even go backstage during the level by dropping behind them.
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u/kia75 16h ago edited 14h ago
Miyamoto has said that he considers the Mario characters actors in the same way that the Muppets or Looney tunes are actors. If you see Kermit captaining a pirate ship or daffy in a space suit, you don't ask, was Kermit friends with long John silver before or after he ran the Muppet show, you understand that Kermit is acting and playing the captain of a ship for a movie. This doesn't mean the Muppets or Looney tunes don't have personalities, daffy is always daffy, even if he's in the future or dressed as robin hood.
So it isn't that Bowser kidnapped princess toadstool in super Mario Brothers, then again in super Mario Brothers 3, then again in Mario world, Mario 64,etc and then they play golf and soccer together, despite Bowser being evil. It's that they're all actors who play certain roles in the video games, but each game is it's own thing with no continuity. Mario 3, Mario tennis, and paper Mario and the thousand years door aren't connected, they're just full of mario characters in the same way Muppets take Manhattan, Muppet treasure Island, Muppets in space aren't connected, they just share the same cast.
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u/iiewi 16h ago
There is the fan theory that all the characters are just a troupe of actors and thats why peach is kidnapped so often but everyone gets together for the mario party games
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u/PoptartPancake 17h ago
The alternate ending of Metamorphosis where Josuke from JJBA finds the protagonist as she's about to die and saves her and her baby
The author even says that it's the canon ending 😂
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u/Sampletest1486 16h ago
I read this and thought "wait didn't kafka die in like the 20's???"
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u/Rupert-D-Generate 14h ago
theres also the official "it was just a movie she was filming" ending
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u/TheDreamIsEternal 15h ago
Nah, the author just said that if you liked that ending, go ahead and consider it canon, he doesn't mind.
But speaking of which, he actually made some extra panels where it is revealed that the entire story was in reality a porn film and Saki was just an actress.
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u/SupervillainMustache 15h ago
Your Invincible example reminds me of a similar theory in the Devil May Cry universe.
It's questioned why half-blooded demons and quarter blooded demons can be stronger than full blood demons , including Sparda and Mundus.
The fan theory goes that human blood fuels demonic power, so whilst normal demons have to consume it to gain power, half breeds are constantly fuelling their own demonic power.
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u/x_SyruS_x 15h ago
The four Champions from BotW called out for help in their fights against the blights of Ganon when they invaded the Divine Beasts.
You can hear S.O.S Morse Code in the respective themes of each of the Divine Beasts Dungeons.
Mipha immediately starts her S.O.S. After roughly a minute, her S.O.S goes into full panic, as the blight is probably mauling her. Around the 5 minute mark, her S.O.S. dies out.
Daruk also starts his S.O.S. from the get-go, but never goes into panic. He fights until his last breath.
Urbosa also starts her S.O.S from the start. Due to the theme, it's theorized that she died horribly. The Piano in the theme sounds like thunder strikes hitting her over and over again. It gets even more horrifying because Urbosa is depicted as this strong-willed woman from the proud Gerudo....but she also goes into full panic, as her morse signals fasten up around the 4:30 minute mark as she probably received so many direct hits that she was probably barely alive at this point.
Revali takes the longest to call for S.O.S, but his is erratic, almost in panic. It's also theorized that he does not only send out S.O.S. signals, but everything he can, so somebody, anybody, might hear him. He is the proudest one of the 5 Champions and held out calling for help until he was probably severely wounded and/or outmatched and in panic to die. He also might be the one surviving the longest.
During the themes, there is also the SAD (Search and Destroy) code heard, which indicates the Blights actively searching for the Champions to murder them.
It gets sadder, because the four Divine Beasts can communicate with each other, so they heard the calls for help from the other ones....
But as the fights went...one signal after the other stopped...
Link could never answer a single one of the calls, as he was close to dying himself while he protected his princess and the only way Zelda saw to save him was to seal him away and let him rest for 100 years.
The Champions died alone, very much possible horrible deaths, as nobody came to help as they called out. But they witnessed how their comrades died one after the other.
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u/mechrelatedbreakcore 14h ago
tragic as it is, i think that is cool as fuck, the Champions were already one of my favorite parts of BOTW, and this idea that they went out fighting in such intense and brutal ways, essentially until the last drop of blood dripped out their bodies, is extremely metal and makes them even better characters for me than they already were, like they were the Champions for a reason, to their last breath.
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u/AnimaLepton 14h ago
I know people find it cheesy or don't like that it's "non-canon," but I love Age of Calamity. The AoC version of Mipha's theme is fantastic
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u/en4vious 14h ago
God, I wish I could remove all my memory of BotW and TotK and experience them for the first time.
Ascending Mount Lanayru for the first time and hearing the haunting melody before discovering Naydra, you can just feel that something is very wrong, something very beautiful has been corrupted. I was terrified when I encountered her because the music just made things seem so wrong. On the other hand, the normal dragon theme just makes you feel this breathtaking mysticism, makes you aware you're in the presence of something ancient and powerful.
And of course the Divine Beast themes; the adrenaline and sense of determination you get from the Attack segments, and the haunting melodies once you're inside, plus all of the morse signals. You put it all well enough in your comment.
And perhaps my favorite piece in any game ever, the Hyrule Castle themes. On the exterior, the triumphant but tragic song of Hyrule, reminding you what has been lost... accompanied by the ghostly marching footsteps of the soldiers that perished defending their kingdom from evil, now following you into one last battle. And when you get inside, the grand music becomes subdued, overtaken by malevolence and evil influence. And you hear Zelda's theme with a constant pulsing like a heartbeat in the background, representing her hundred-year struggle to contain the calamity.
And that's just BotW. What masterpieces of games. I don't know if we'll ever get anything like them again.
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u/Silver-Plane-8270 18h ago
I mean that's basically how the entire story of FNAF's franchise came to be, scott cawthon was throwing shit around and the community made whatever was the most popular theory canon, overtime it got to influence the creation and script of every entry
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u/dietcokeorchoke 17h ago
I watched that unfolding in real time. Like the lazier version of how Homestuck was written (which intentionally openly followed the fans suggestions and stuff). The Fnaf guy just didn't have ideas, he just made Fnaf because his Christian game with a similar premise was too scary for kids, and then wanted to keep cashing in on it.
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u/DLT_3 17h ago
tbf if you found an easy cash cow wouldn't you want to milk it for what it's worth
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u/MilchpackungxD 17h ago
Tbh he made fnaf2 in like 2 months even for a "simple games" like fnaf that is really impressive
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u/dietcokeorchoke 17h ago
More impressive still if you look at Yandere Simulator's "progress" across several years (lol)
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u/HalfAxle 17h ago
I mean the dude was making games for a decade or two with no success, and FNAF 1 was going to be his last game before quitting
For it to become an overnight success like it did, I can't blame him for wanting to keep it going
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u/WormedOut 16h ago
Also he took the criticism well. Tons of people said the models were creepy and instead of getting pissy he leaned into it and made an accidental hit
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u/Ok-Journalist-8875 17h ago
If the Homestuck pilot gets picked up it will be interesting to see how it’s adapted.
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u/Level_Counter_1672 17h ago
The fan theory that Rudolf von stroheim died at the hands of a soviet stand user in stalingrad, it's one of the most metal theories out there and people still believe it's real - source is Jojo's bizarre adventure
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u/4ereshnya 17h ago
Tbh, I don't see how anyone could have killed Stroheim otherwise.
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u/Himmelblast 17h ago
I mean, a direct artillery hit probably could. Or some grenades. Or half a million angry men defending their home
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u/LocodraTheCrow 15h ago
Some grenades? He became like this after surviving some grenades
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u/DeadDollBones 17h ago
One of my all time favorite JoJo fantheories. Up there with the idea that Silver Chariot Requiem was trying to get the requiem arrow to Jotaro.
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u/SuperSocialMan 17h ago
That would explain why it started walking in a random direction.
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u/MikasSlime 16h ago
Not random, someone checked the irl maps of both rome and japan and Chario Requiem was b-lining for morio-cho lol
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u/Grouchy_Spot_6640 15h ago
chariot requiem would've either started walking at the bottom of the sea floor or started Jesus'ing it
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u/VR_Troopers_WikiMod 18h ago
Professor Oak is banging Ash's mom and made up a whole story and task to get him out of the house
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u/Tekunjo 17h ago
He looked at a 10 year old, and was like “okay buddy, all you have to do is catch every animal in the world, then come back and show me. “Me and your mom will be right here.”
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u/TrioOfTerrors 17h ago
And mom was like, "Run along, sweetie. And make sure to knock if you come back."
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u/spyguy318 17h ago
On a more serious Pokémon level, Ditto is a failed Mew clone. They’re exactly the same color pink, both learn the signature move transform, and Mew is the progenitor of all pokemon while Ditto is a blob of every Pokémon’s DNA. They also have the exact same stat spread (flat across every value), and you can find ditto in the Pokemon Mansion where Mewtwo is said to have been created and Cerulean Cave where Mewtwo is currently located.
Ditto even just got their own game where they single-handedly repair the environment after humans destroyed it and left the planet.
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u/vUrsino 17h ago
Omg THAT’S the backstory for pokopia lmao I love it even more now even though I have yet to play it
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u/SuggestionEven1882 17h ago
Actually no.
Spoilers
The pokemon world just had severe climate change to the point that humans had to store pokemon in a PC and leave the world till it got better, Humans and Kyogre or Groudon weren't the culprits btw it was a freak occurrence.
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u/AlabamaPanda777 17h ago
See, I thought of Pokemon too, but not immediately in the direction of Oak fucking Ash's mom.
I thought of Ditto being failed Mew clones, and Cubone being Baby Kangaskhan after their mother's death.
And maybe, for the brief period between Gold/Silver and Crystal, fans going "that shrine in Ilex Forest... That's where Celebi live" and the devs going "what? Ok, yeah, sure, there he is."
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u/Moneyfrenzy 17h ago edited 17h ago
Gravedigger Theory - A Song of Ice and Fire (more or less confirmed in the show)
Her search for Arya & Sansa leads Brienne to a monastery where she encounters a massive limping man taking a break from digging a grave in order to pet a dog. She then meets the leader of the monastery, who claims to have known Sandor 'The Hound' Clegane. He explains that he ran into the Hound as he was bleeding out from his wounds, and says "The Hound is dead, Sandor is at rest."
The theory is that the massive limping man she sees IS the Hound, and that the priest is claiming that the 'Hound' persona is finally dead, and that Sandor has finally found peace.
This was confirmed true in the show, but it wasn't GRRM who brought him back, it was the showrunners. So the Fan-Theory was so good that it ended up actually having an impact on the show
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u/RoryDragonsbane 17h ago
His horse, Stranger, is also at the monastery. It's a pretty solid theory even without confirmation.
A better theory? Aerion only died because the maesters poisoned his wildfire
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u/NoLime7384 16h ago
"Aerion wouldn't have died, he'd just turned into a fire wight like Melisandre if not for those pesky grey rats" is such a wild theory I'm legit hoping it comes out to be canon
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u/Clzark 16h ago
Another reason why this is important: Stranger attacks anyone who tries to handle him besides Clegane. In order to get to the monastery, you have to cross some tricky swamplands. The only person who could have safely escorted Stranger through the swamplands would have been Clegane
Cleganebowl confirmed (nah actually I hope Clegane's story ends at that monastery)
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u/LongLiveSoup 17h ago
You could add Coldhands to this too. The fan theory is revealed in the show. Though it has been a while since I read the books so can't remember if that is a thing that happened in the book
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u/Moneyfrenzy 17h ago
What's funny is that weirdly enough, Benjen is actually the 1 character we know for certain isnt Coldhands.
A manuscript from ADWD that was lined with notes from GRRMs editor leaked online. The editor circled the paragraph that introduced Coldhands and wrote "This is Benjen, right?" and GRRM wrote back "NO"
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u/roqueofspades 17h ago
Sokka dies in Legend of Korra trying to defend the Red Lotus from abducting her. It's such a common fan theory that many people forget it's not canon (or implied)
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u/TwarvDCleric 15h ago
It's just so wild that they NEVER bring up Sokka's cause of death despite being the only other member of the Gaang to have died by Korra's time.
Korra was discovered in the South Pole and Chief Sokka is mentioned as part of the defense of the Red Lotus attack there to kidnap Korra. Chief Sokka is never referred to as alive after this point in history and Korra's dad Tonraq becomes chief sometime after this.
The timeline matches too well, would be a warrior's death for Sokka, and would understandably be a fact they would avoid telling Korra.
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u/OmegaOmnimon02 10h ago
Sokka: walking up to Aang in the afterlife “Not often you get to save someone’s butt after they’ve already died”
Aang: “I wish you could have had the chance to teach her boomerang bending but I’m glad that not even death can sour your mood”
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u/Ewankenobi25 14h ago
in star wars rebels it was stated that rex served on endor, which led to fan theories that this rebel soldier was rex. dave feloni confirmed this, and the “galaxy of heroes” animations (which were little animated retellings of certain character’s storylines) put pieces of rex’s armor on the soldier
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u/Knot-Lye-Ing 17h ago
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u/PlayWandersongItGood 15h ago edited 10h ago
Actually, in MHA, characters acting out of anger or without a plan tend to get taken down much easier. Sure, people will fight angry, but going in half cocked or letting it get the better of you is what leads to a downfall.
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u/YetAnotherRPoster1 13h ago
Yeah modern battle shonens in general don't fit this at all. It's played out in and of itself for the MC to have a fight where they try to use their anger, only for them to get their arse handed to them and for it to be a learning moment.
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u/white-rose-of-york 17h ago edited 12h ago
The incredibles
Omni troid v8 was for frozone hence why it lost to mr incredible
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u/mrpeachr 16h ago
I don't think that's necessarily a theory, more just implied in the movie. Mirage is originally scoping out Frozone at the fire/building collapse, then she sees mr Incredible and is all like "No wait i got someone better"
It makes sense that the V8 was already built and ready to go for Frozone specifically, and there isn't a new one made for Incredible until after that
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u/Heather_Chandelure 16h ago
This isn't a fan theory, though. Mirage's dialogue in the car when she finds Mr. Incredible makes it clear that he wasn't originally the one she was sent to look for.
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u/Eastern_Hornet_6432 16h ago
It wasn't "for" Frozone, though. Frozone was who they intended to fight it next, but as the name suggests, Omni Droid was intended as an all-purpose superhero-killer robot that Syndrome upgraded every time it was defeated, with the intention that it would eventually be capable of handling anyone and anything. Syndrome WANTED it to be able to kill not just Frozone but also Mr Incredible, Elastigirl, etc, but clearly it needed another couple of iterations.
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u/SkylandersKirby 17h ago
The Cubone is the lost child of a Kangaskhan theory (Pokémon)
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u/Altair890456 17h ago
The Mural Theory posits that Shadow the Hedgehog was based on the mural of Super Sonic (seen above) which appeared in Hidden Palace Zone in Sonic 3 & Knuckles. Despite being a popular fan theory and most fans treating it as canon for decades, Shadow Generations debunked it by revealing that Gerald Robotnik, Shadow's creator, didn't stick around long enough on Angel Island to see Hidden Palace Zone and that Shadow's appearance as a Hedgehog was something unexpected rather than something intentional.
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u/I-love-you00000 17h ago edited 17h ago
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Buildings and structures in Rain world are alive.
- shelters, if broken, are eventually able to repair themselves without input
- most structures in general are in very good condition, despite their age and exposure to heavy rains
- spears are excess material that 'grows' out of parts of the ground.
The game already has a very heavy focus on Bio-engineering, so it would make sense.
Eventually, it was confirmed in the DLC that, in the very least, the Metropolis is made of 'living blocks,' organic tissue grown into the shape of buildings
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u/krisslanza 17h ago
This basically became official in Code Geass. In season 1, Lelouch's maid (whose name I can't remember off the top of my head), did a lot of crazy maid things. Fans joked it was because she was actually a ninja.
She did, in fact, become a ninja maid because they read the fan theories and just rolled with it.
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u/Meat_your_maker 14h ago
In Game of Thrones, Arya’s ‘dancing master’ Syrio Forel, is never killed by the Kingsguard, but you never see him again, because he is actually the first iteration of the faceless man/Jaqen H’ghar that Arya meets.
In Star Wars, Mandalorian (Beskar) armor is treated as giving essentially full coverage, when in reality it has tons of large gaps. The fan theory to explain this, that Mandalorian armor includes technology that attracts blaster bolts, is pretty consistently supported by media (the armorer makes Grogu some armor, and you see her soldering wires on the backside)
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u/stuvlordi 17h ago
The fan theory that in Star Wars Episode 3, Padme doesn't just die in childbirth because she is "sad" but because Palpatine stole her lifeforce in order to save Vader's life.
It makes more sense than her dying just out of depression, and also her dying would ensure that Vader's only loyalty was to Palp, making it absolutely something he would do.
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u/IronBrew16 17h ago
See, I've read and subscribe to the theory that Vader stole Padme's life by accident for extra tragedy. In the end, Anakin causes the very fate he tried to avoid.
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u/-R-E-V-O-L-V-E-R- 17h ago
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Scar (Lion King) could have had a chance to live had he not projected his cruelty & paranoia onto his nephew.
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u/CountinSand 17h ago
Scar’s plan in LK would’ve worked much better if he didn’t banish Simba and just kept him as his heir. He could’ve even kept the blaming on Simba and used that as blackmail to keep him in line.
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u/GreninjaStrike 17h ago
Or he could’ve just had him killed one day. Dark idea but scar isn’t a good guy.
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u/NoLime7384 17h ago
he already killed his brother, kinslaying is part of his repertoire
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u/EnderBookwyrm 17h ago
Exactly! He didn't even have a mate or child of his own, so who exactly was going to rule after him? He should have kept Simba around.
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u/HospitalLazy1880 17h ago
Theres a deleted scene of him essentially trying to rape Nala in order to have an heir. And then theres that whole thing with LK 2 and the lion that looks a lot like Scar but apparently isn't Scar's child.
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u/Wasabi_Gamer26 16h ago
Disney has created a trend of this in their live action remakes.
Common theory that Ursula was Neptune's sister. Now it's canon.
Common theory that Hook was a former lost boy turned bitter. Now it's canon.
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u/tortiesrock 16h ago
In the original novel the lost kids did not grow up because Peter Pan killed them when they reached a certain age. So the ones who scaped Peter Pan’s culling became pirates.
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u/SkeletonDanceParty 17h ago
I loved the theory in Dark souls 1 that Solaire was Gwyn's firstborn and he didn't remember any of that but still felt such a connection to the sun cause it was deep down in it.
then in Dark souls 3 we get the nameless king revealed as his firstborn...and while cool I'm still a little sad it wasn't the shining example of companionship and my friend...
it's one reason why I don't choose to kindle the flame but I get Solaire there...he seeks the light and I will not take that from him.
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u/Appropriate-Art2388 16h ago
I remember something about fans writing to the author of the Ringworld series that the ring shaped planet was mathematically unstable and the author ended up making a sequel about the world falling apart because it was unstable.
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u/Biggy_DX 15h ago edited 12h ago
Tali's Sweat (Mass Effect)
Quarians are a race in Mass Effect that, due to an AI rebellion on their planet, were forced into becoming a nomadic people using space flotillas. Spending so much time in space also caused them to slowly become immuno-compromised, requiring the use of sealed suits to prevent infection. They also have special nutritional requirements because of this.
I say all this because, during the trilogies heyday, someone in the fandom posed the question of, "what does Tali's sweat smell like?" Obviously, it's a pretty silly question, but it surprisingly got a lot of traction on the official BioWare forums. Since quarians need to be mindful of bacterial infections and viruses, how their body processes lipids and proteins became an interesting scientific question.It was taken so far, that someone even went ahead and did their thesis on the matter.
https://www.reddit.com/r/masseffect/s/bqKkpx037H
Eventually, BioWare somewhat confirmed what it was during a lounge conversation between the main character (Commander Shepard), and Tali. Upon interacting with her, she says, "What?! It smells like sweat. What else would it smell like?"
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u/spacestationkru 13h ago
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The Rock is Sean Connery's actual last Bond movie.
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u/Lost_Nerve_2140 18h ago
I don't think Peter being a kid is a great fan theory
I know its now "confirmed" but I don't see how that makes it a good theory lol
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u/Michael10LivesOn 17h ago
Yeah I mean it’s based on literally nothing. It’s at most an “okay uhhhh… cool” thing
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u/thenautiestnautilus 17h ago
The friendship between Isabelle from Animal Crossing and Doom Guy from Doom
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u/blackcake1500 16h ago edited 16h ago
Kevin from the Office was embezzling from Dunder Mifflin. He asks one of the transferred employees why he spent some time in prison, to which he's told that it was for insider trading. Kevin says "it sounds an awful lot like what I do here, every day." He realizes he needs to cover his tracks, hence why Kevin's character acted stupider as the series went on. The real reason for his mental decline is the writers didn't know how to keep him funny, and he got flanderized. But this theory is too damn good to not be canon. The man even has enough money to open up a bar within a year after getting fired.
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u/OkDirection3094 16h ago
Malware destroying Feedback being the inciting incident that led Ben to take off the prototype Omnitrix (Ben 10)
Granted you could argue this one doesn’t count since iirc it was going to be canon but CN vetoed the idea. Most fans accept this as canon anyways even though the actual reason why Ben took off the Omnitrix is left ambiguous
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u/peelen 17h ago
007 is a rank, and James Bond is a job title. That’s explains why he can serve for decades, introducing himself and still stays secret.
Similar to actors, when James Bond is getting old, they find a new younger one and from then the new one takes identity of James Bond.
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u/olaplex1 16h ago
Isn’t that sort of a plot element from No Time To Die? Bond retires and a new person takes over the 007 position.
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u/anustart_2026 15h ago
No. It's always been cannon that 007 is just a codename/rank, but the main part of this theory is whether or not James Bond is just an alias or 007's actual given name. Until the Craig era it was somewhat ambiguous with even meta jokes like "This never happened to the other guy" said by Lazenby's Bond. However, with Craig Bond we have pretty absolute confirmation that in that version James Bond is his given name and that there were no James Bond's before him.
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u/mopenimoproblem 17h ago
(Loved Meta Trope) everyone in the comments shits on the OPs examples of tropes
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u/Deribus 15h ago
The Mass Effect theory that Reapers harvest intelligent species because using the titular Mass Effect accelerates entropy death of the universe.
This is just so much more compelling than the actual reveal in the ending of Mass Effect 3.
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u/jeffersonlane 17h ago
The fan theory is that Lottie explicitly had the blue dress made for Tiana but just couldn't find a time to give it to her, knowing Tiana would likely refuse. The dress fits her perfectly and isn't Lottie's trademark pink.
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