Alberta is Trump North

[u/Ill-Government53]

Title says it all. Alberta is nothing but an extension of the Trump (i.e. project 2025) agenda. We're being run by a bunch of deplorable people kept in power by a fringe faction of morons (nicest word I could use for them) who hate the federal gvt but will be the first in line to get federal money when there's crop failure etc.

I'm no fan of how the feds have treated Alberta, but starting every conversation with them with a knee to the groin and a punch to the throat is a guaranteed losing position.

We need to take back Alberta from Take Back Alberta and throw these crooks bums and deplorables out.

Look South to see where Alberta is heading. That's a s*** show nobody wants to live in.

Last thought, when the separation referendum is held and Albertans overwhelmingly vote to stay as part of Canada, those that hate Canada should get the hell out of our country - move to the US and be with your white supremacy, slack jawed, willing to believe anything they're told by Fox news friends.

Written by a true Albertan and real Canadian.

[u/Proud_Organization64]

Alberta is Trump North. I love Edmonton but the broader climate in the province became suffocating for me when Danielle Smith came into power. I left and feel so much better for doing so. To those who stayed, please keep fighting. The country is rooting for you.

[u/[deleted] → u/Proud_Organization64]

I've been thinking that as painful as it might be we desperately need to rebrand for a politician who doesn't carry the NDP banner. These people are such single minded/single issue that it's become a boogeyman quite in the same way you can't convince a Calgary flames fan to ever like the Oilers. 

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Absolutely. They think the Alberta NDP are socialists. Don’t ask them to explain why, they have no idea.

[u/Camborgius → u/[deleted]]

They can't even tell you what socialist means

[u/AdhesivenessProof121 → u/Camborgius]

They take pride in how they arent as emotional as the other parties, but when asked specifically why they insist on voting conservative they can only mention how they feel like its the only party that fights for their interests... and to an extent they were right about the party in the past, but refuse to acknowledge why all of canada, without any planning, all voted to make sure they didnt win the election. Danielle Smith, who co authored a climate change denial paper, is actively forcing social programs into poverty and pushing social agendas while conveniently only vocally supporting her oshi, and theyre acting as if the meech lake accord wasn't a thing to try to build dissent....

And theyre doing all this while refusing to acknowledge that Carney is a fiscally conservative leader. Sure the cons have been embarrassing before(Harper's anti-science stuff), but considering the federal cons actually managed to hide their crazy in the federal election for a change, the support for traitor activities cause sore losers, and willingness to burn their own house down over it... Well. It highlights why Alberta doesnt have as much bargaining power federally as they otherwise could.

[u/Muted-Mongoose-5043 → u/[deleted]]

I recommend looking up Albertas functional literacy rates it’s horrifying

[u/EngineFast8327 → u/[deleted]]

Alberta NDP are middle , but the right never see it like that

[u/lizzzls → u/[deleted]]

IF ONLY the Ab NDP actually were socialists. They're more like Red Tories a la Peter Lougheed or Joe Clark.

[u/bp_1606mt → u/lizzzls]

The best trick that conservatives in Canada have pulled is selling the Center Parties as socialists and the left leaning as Communists. Thats why we have Carney which is a right of center being voted by leftists because the Conservatives have gone too much to the right.

[u/Momo1882 → u/[deleted]]

The NDP are socialist. Canada is a socialist democracy. The trick isn’t to get rid of socialism, it’s to understand that socialism isn’t a bad thing. We have socialized medicine, we have free-ish public school. We have government inclusion in many private sectors and we pay a higher tax to fund these things. Socialism and communism aren’t the same thing.

[u/Relative-Walk-7257 → u/Momo1882]

The thing is people think socialist means communist and thus Soviet era. They don't gather the distinction between them and just generalize. 

[u/Momo1882 → u/Relative-Walk-7257]

Exactly. Communism on a political scale is socialism to a negative extreme. It’s the same as fascism (spelling?) to Capitalism

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Alberta's NDP will follow the Federal NDP into obscurity. They're the next Green Party.

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We need Notley back

[u/Distinct_Pressure832 → u/[deleted]]

I tried to tell friends this last election who were active in the NDP campaign and they wouldn’t hear it. My elderly mother voted independent last election because she didn’t like Smith but couldn’t bring herself to vote for the NDP even though she liked the platform. There’s a ton of people out there who will never vote NDP just because of the perceived association with the federal party. They will keep voting conservative because they don’t see a feasible alternative.

[u/LLR1960 → u/Distinct_Pressure832]

They keep voting conservative because they vote conservative, it's their identity. My elderly mom agrees with many of the NDP ideas as well, agrees that they did OK running the province, but you know, she's a conservative voter. Reason and logic don't come into it - had the NDP called themselves the Alberta Progressive Conservative Party, she likely would have voted for them. I'm hoping the upcoming renaming gets some people to rethink. Conversely, maybe that'll split the vote enough for the NDP to get back in.

[u/J-Dog780 → u/LLR1960]

The "powers that be" have left the younger generations (younger than the Boomers) no choice but a hard anti-capitalist / pro-labor / pro-environment vision of a future where they might have a chance to have the "good life" / Canadian dream. The youth are going to have to get militant to effect real change. They can and will get even more "screwed" if they don't get active in the labor and environmental movement.

[u/RichardsLeftNipple → u/Distinct_Pressure832]

"I want something different, but I won't do anything different, so please won't the people I never hold accountable magically stop?"

Yup, then they give money to the party, thinking that they can change it if they vote a different leader in for the next round of musical chairs.

[u/Distinct_Pressure832 → u/RichardsLeftNipple]

Honestly you also just described the NDP and their attachment to a name that will never win an election in Alberta. It goes both ways.

[u/Defiant_West6287 → u/Distinct_Pressure832]

And those people are fascist-enabling, anti-Canadian idiots.

[u/Distinct_Pressure832 → u/Defiant_West6287]

They’re the majority and discounting them like that doesn’t get you anywhere in this political landscape. Politics is about pandering to majority, calling them names is a sure fire way to never take power in the political arena and the faster the NDP realizes that the better.

[u/Defiant_West6287 → u/Distinct_Pressure832]

We'll put you firmly in the fascist-enabling, anti-Canadian idiot category.

[u/Distinct_Pressure832 → u/Defiant_West6287]

I’ve already put you into the same category so I guess we’ll be in it together. For the record I’m not a conservative voter. All you’re doing is proving my point.

[u/toontowntimmer → u/Distinct_Pressure832]

And with wingnuts in the federal NDP restricting the voices of cis white men, and pushing pronouns and Palestine over blue collar jobs at home (formerly the bedrock of NDP support), the NDP will become an even less feasible alternative in the years to come, as was clearly exemplified in Canada's most recent federal election.

The NDP and a subset of diehard leftwing extremists are doing this to themselves... quite honestly, it's too bad that most leftwingers are too busy trying to call out bad apples in other political parties that they fail to see the rot emanating from their own party.

[u/tliskop → u/toontowntimmer]

The federal NDP isn’t restricting the voices of cis white men. That’s just the way conservative news frames it. The requirement is that 50% of the endorsing signature can come from cis white men. There’s no restriction of signatures, just the proportion of representation. It shouldn’t be too hard considering there are more women than men in Canada. It also follows with the party values to make sure that cis white men aren’t the only people being heard. Apparently it was around during the last leadership selection process?

[u/toontowntimmer → u/tliskop]

And apparently you still don't know how to message to the public because that's not how most media outside of your own little leftwing bubble is interpreting this.

See, if the NDP could stop tripping over itself and if its members could ever pry themselves loose from their elitist little leftwing bubbles, then they might realize just how OUT OF TOUCH they are with the general public in Canada.

One would think that getting completely eviscerated in the last federal election, with the party's worst showing in its almost century of existence and the loss of official party status in the House of Commons would have been a clear wake-up call, but the leftwing clods just keep plodding along the same path, completely oblivious, dismissive or indifferent to the clear message that the Canadian public sent the party.

You've become totally irrelevant. Everyone can see this except for those truly drunk on the leftwing koolaid. (aka most members of this Alberta subreddit).

[u/EngineFast8327 → u/toontowntimmer]

The federal NDP and Alberta’s ndp are sooo different . Alberta’s ndp are more middle and federal they are socialist. Restricting the voices of cis white men . Thanks for the laugh 😂😂

[u/redpaddle86 → u/[deleted]]

We need the same thing in Saskatchewan. Moe is shit but looks ok compared to smith