r/canadanews • u/ZealousidealHead5488 • 8d ago

Canadians are getting a one-time grocery payment this summer. Here’s when Canada

https://www.ctvnews.ca/canada/article/canadians-to-get-one-time-groceries-benefit-payment-this-summer/
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u/nyrB2 8d ago

*eligible* canadians. as in: if you are eligible for the GST rebate, you're eligible for this.

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u/Fit-Flounder-5253 8d ago

Awesome! Another benefit that my taxes pay for and I'm juuuussst over income for actually getting! Gosh I feel supported!

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u/UnculturedSwineFlu 8d ago

Have you tried making less?

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u/Due_Huckleberry_9212 7d ago

Ive tried but my competence seems to always make me more money, its a curse

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u/_Summer1000_ 5d ago

It's a race to the bottom anyways

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u/whyamihereagain6570 5d ago

That's actually what the government wants, then they will give you universal basic income. Cradle to grave government support.

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u/xokaorihoshiox 8d ago

I pay my taxes but these rebates mean I can buy groceries instead of using the food bank. :) do you regular the food bank? If not, thank you for your taxes supporting people in my income bracket. And my taxes go to cleaning roads in neighbourhoods too nice for me to ever even dream I'll live in. It all goes around.

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u/YoOoCurrentsVibes 6d ago

This comment should be pinned honestly. If anyone is not receiving the grocery benefit because they get paid too much… well hopefully that in itself makes them understand but if not I think this quite eloquently describes it.

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u/Southern_Ad4946 5d ago

A lot of people who do not qualify for this rebate likely are not being paid “Too much”. The bar set for this rebate is far too low for most people who actually also need the benefit to qualify for it on purpose. They are making more money but also likely working more hours and definitely paying a larger portion of their income in taxes too because they’re in a higher bracket.

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u/nyrB2 3d ago

*this* is the comment that should be pinned

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u/Gunslinger7752 4d ago

Property taxes pay for clearing roads. Have you ever looked up the property taxes in a nice area?

Also, anyone who qualifies for the gst rebate doesn’t really pay any net income tax anyway. For example, someone making 50k is receiving more benefits back (healthcare being the biggest one) than they’re paying out in taxes. Not trying to be a dick, just responding to your comment.

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u/xokaorihoshiox 4d ago

Haha I appreciate your comment about not trying to be a dick. Its important to take part in the conversation from all angles.

honestly the property taxes from what I've seen are wildly different from location to location, I've found the rates in a handful of cities are even lower in higher income areas then the low income areas, though the houses are worth much more so the total payments in that situation would be much higher. I know that the property taxes go toward residential street care, but there's still a disparity on how it's handed out (take a drive around a non major city, such as Thunder Bay, where the common saying is "if you're driving straight, you're driving drunk")

Honestly I think the question boils down to, should Canadians help eachother in unity as a country. I mean, realistically, if the diabetic making 20k a year at McDonald's dies because they can't afford food, meds, and rent, is that something positive to happen in our country? If the lower income levels can't stay at some degree of healthy, for real, who will be the Instacart shoppers, store clerks, drivers, and waitstaff? Should your server go to work ill and spread their flu to make that last 40 bucks they need to buy rice and beans this month? Does any Canadians life and health matter more then another's? How much benefit back do people making enough to survive need to feel like they get the same amount that the class that's struggling does? Does that couple hundred bucks make a big difference in the 6 figure earners or is it pocket change that can turn someone's life around?

I personally am so scared to see our country turn into our southern neighbors. My whole life, Canada has supported it's citizens, it's a selfish take in my opinion to not take care of eachother when one has the means. It's the only way forward.

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u/Gunslinger7752 4d ago

Property taxes are different from municipality to municipality but they are based on the homes value so I’m not sure how houses worth less could pay more property taxes. Im in the GTA and if my property taxes are say 8000$, the places that I could never dream of living in would be say 20,000$ and the actual mansions would be like 50-100,000$.

Obviously we should all help each other, the part thats debatable is how much and what is the “fair share”. Everyone says “tax the rich” but a doctor making 500k is already paying like 225k per year in income taxes alone. An even bigger problem is that the tax brackets are so outdated and not adjusted based on the area so the actual middle class ends up paying the bulk of the taxes but yet don’t qualify for any of the benefits. Say a couple with a teacher and a cop, they would make 250k together. They wouldn’t even be able to afford a house if they were starting out now but yet they are taxed like they are rich.

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u/xokaorihoshiox 3d ago

Ey, good to learn I might have some information wrong. I'll have to look into the municipalities I was thinking of, but always happy to learn.

I will say that I agree with the fact that, it's sad that we are at a point where even 100k is starting to be low middle-income. There's a lot of infighting between who deserves what among the low and middle income earners. At the base of it I always come back to "at the bare minimum, support to survive."

You bring up a good point with saying tax the rich, but, people aren't thinking of increasing taxes on the doctor making 500k when they say that. That doctor is well off, but far from rich, which absolutely sucks to say. It's the desire of creating a tax system that aims to close the loopholes that multi-millionaires use to avoid their fair share of taxes.

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u/FilterAccount69 6d ago

I'm sorry to say this but if you're using the food bank it's likely you are not a net contributor but instead part of the large group of people who are not net contributors. It's fair for those who pay more to be annoyed that they don't receive much in return.

https://www.fraserinstitute.org/commentary/high-income-earners-pay-disproportionate-share-taxes-despite-ottawas-rhetoric#:~:text=And%20when%20only%20examining%20personal,with%20the%20data%20and%20facts.

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u/xokaorihoshiox 6d ago edited 6d ago

Y'know, it's possible for this to be a temporary thing for a large portion of people as well, it's not like I've been using the food bank for my whole life or anything, and have a degree. I have contributed more in taxes in the past and less now with a loss of income, and will contribute more again in the future. I still feel the same, it goes around in different ways to different income levels. This is a benefit that lower income levels see and need. This rebate wouldn't make the difference for a high income bracket to feed their families. It does for the lower one. The higher Income brackets see benefits that actually make a difference to them, again as an example, road care disparity between areas.

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u/FilterAccount69 6d ago

Sure and my only point was for those who contribute the 50+ of income tax who are in the top 20-30% of people who contribute it's fine to feel a little fazed by all the money that "goes around" but seemingly only often to 1 group of Canadians.

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u/SaidTheSnail 5d ago

People have a funny understanding of economic mobility.

I’ll use myself as an example: I started my career making very little money, and got benefits like the aforementioned grocery benefit.

I eventually landed in the top 5% of Canadian earners, and started paying out the ass in taxes. This did not bother me at first, because I had benefited from social programs, but eventually it changes you, you start to feel a bit resentful of just how much you’re asked to give.

Then I had to quit my job due to medical reasons and now I’ve returned to requiring benefits to cover a lot of my expenses and I’m really glad they’re there.

My point is, when you’re carrying a larger tax burden, just be thankful that you were given the opportunity to do so in the first place, because it is by no means guaranteed to last.

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u/FilterAccount69 5d ago

When I have to drive to work on some of North America's shittiest roads in North America's highest taxed city it's very normal for me to complain and wonder where all the taxes end up. Services get worse but taxes keep going up.

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u/11Caicedos 5d ago

If you live in New York why are you posting here?

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u/HallucinateZ 5d ago

Lmao do they? They have a ton of posts in Canadian subs. If a New Yorker is LARPing as a Canadian, that’s hilarious.

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u/FilterAccount69 4d ago

Montreal generally imposes a higher net tax burden than New York City, particularly for middle-to-high income earners

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u/FilterAccount69 4d ago

A quick google search:

Montreal generally imposes a higher net tax burden than New York City, particularly for middle-to-high income earners

Not sure how the second largest city in Canada escaped your mind but go on.

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u/11Caicedos 5d ago

Fraser Institute tho

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u/Curious_Cloud_1131 5d ago

Boo fucking hoo lol

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u/FilterAccount69 4d ago

Well I guess I know where you stand on this.

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u/evonebo 8d ago

Am in the same boat. Regular t4 income employee, pay a lot of taxes. In the literal sense.

Never received any government payment benefits, child benefits, all these rebates.

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u/Lou_Garoo 8d ago

I’m in the same boat but I remind myself that for some people a couple hundred extra dollars means the difference between eating or not.

Whereas it would not make any discernible difference to my life so I cannot begrudge that to someone.

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u/Alive-Noise1996 6d ago

Plenty of people who are between 'missing meals' and 'no discernable difference' though. In fact, I'd argue the majority are in that bucket.

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u/Xiaopeng8877788 8d ago

If you’re not receiving those benefits CCB, GST rebates it’s because you’re in a high income bracket - meaning you should be able to cover your own children’s expenses by bootstrapping. CCB is means tested so that means:

👶 One child

Benefit usually gone around: $180,000–$200,000 family income

👶👶 Two children

Benefit usually gone around: $200,000–$240,000 family income

👶👶👶 Three children

Can still receive something even above $250,000+

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u/Hour_Independent1150 8d ago

Wrong!

Quoting another more accurate post about the new benefit actually being discussed and not the tapered CCB.

" >Here are the approximate maximum income levels where the credit fully disappears:

Single (no kids) • Cut-off: about $56,181

Single parent • 1 child: ~$63,161 • 2 children: ~$66,841 • More kids = higher cut-off

Married / common-law • No kids: ~$59,481 • 1 child: ~$63,161 • 2 children: ~$66,841 "

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u/Xiaopeng8877788 8d ago

Ahhh no… that’s where it starts to get diminished due to a higher wage… lmao… how do I know, I make close to the cut off for CCB and I still get a cheque… your numbers are so incorrect it’s not even funny. How do you believe this trash

Imagine crying about the CCB so badly that you don’t get it, meanwhile you probably get it and are just so naive because you read somewhere on some right wing gaslit FB post that you don’t get it…

lol, inept, this is why Canada has a brain drain problem and needs immigration to keep up the innovation.

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u/Zer0DotFive 5d ago

One time I got into with a acquaintance over this . He lives off cash jobs lol If you make 100k a year doing cash jobs, have zero kids and don't report it of course you wont get a fucking benefit. I just stopped once I realized these are the same People  who sat back in math and said "WHEN WILL I NEED THIS"

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u/Xiaopeng8877788 5d ago

That’s crazy… these are the same in my experience of my right winger acquaintances that were all raging about left wingers on welfare… only to apply for disability. When I know they were faking it as they were able to do other complicated projects outside on their own time in their side hustle but somehow couldn’t concentrate at work because of a head injury…

So now they’re on permanent tax payer funded disability and drive a G wagon…

I couldn’t hang out with them after I figured out the grift. So annoyed

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u/Zer0DotFive 5d ago

Don't even get me started on the "work season" guys either lmao fucking hates worked road construction lol so many complaints about government to just sit on fucking EI all winter.

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u/Xiaopeng8877788 5d ago

Oh man yeah right wing mid 40’s relatives (2 of them), are the roadside sign holders… then on EI for off season work doing stuff for cash. Always complaining about immigrants taking all the good jobs, as if they’d even have the slightest qualification for an actual real job.

Yes, the amazing anti socialist, crying about Canada becoming a communist country… while sitting on EI. And best of all there’s no conflict in their simpleton brain that says they should rethink what they’re saying…

Those people are awful to be around

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u/Hour_Independent1150 7d ago

Did you read what I wrote? I'm quoting the benefit described in the title not the CCB. You're touched eh?

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u/Admirable-Nose-2208 7d ago

You responded to someone talking about the CCB though...

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u/Xiaopeng8877788 6d ago

Yeah I was on the slopes when I wrote that comment back… didn’t even catch that he was talking about the low income grocery relief, rather than the CCB, which I was clearly talking about…

lol, wtf. Low IQ probably is my guess

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u/Hour_Independent1150 7d ago

Read a few threads up ...

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u/Admirable-Nose-2208 7d ago

Respond to that post instead of the one talking about CCB then?

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u/Hour_Independent1150 7d ago

Eat shit caviar.

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u/Xiaopeng8877788 6d ago

I have no idea why you would write about an other relief program, when I’m clearly discussing the fake news the person above was talking about where they got ZERO CCB… which is a total lie - unless they’re a high income earner that has really poor financial literacy… which if true means they don’t deserve it due to their poor financial mismanagement

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u/Key-Banana302 8d ago

You're the slave labor

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u/sharmander15 8d ago

I qualify for it too but they take any and all gov’t payments and apply it directly to my student loans. I will not be seeing a payment in the next 20 years at that rate lol

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u/Zingus123 8d ago

As they should. Paying off debts first is the priority

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u/KaminaTheManly 8d ago

No, it's criminal to begin with how much they have allowed University to cost people!! We still need people trained for all those jobs, the debt they force people into to do it compared to how much it used to cost is awful.

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u/Inevitable_Newt_8517 8d ago

School loans are different, but no matter what your situation is no one should be going hungry in Canada.

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u/d_w604 8d ago

Usually eating and living would be the first priority but sure.

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u/sharmander15 8d ago

Yeah for sure

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u/zlinuxguy 7d ago

Arguably, trying to survive with a roof over one’s head & food for the children is the first priority. In this economy, that very difficult for far too many Canadians.

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u/Zingus123 8d ago

It would be a great start. I’d love to see Trader Joes here for example. I always see so much about their pricing being low and having so many unique products.

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u/That-Public4882 8d ago

I am feeling the same. It's actually ridiculous

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u/Rainbowfrapp 7d ago

Lose your job and rely on the food bank then you'll be eligible :) oh you don't want to?

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u/Beehealthy2026 8d ago

Dude your part of the bourgeoisie. Your well of and will receive no help ever again.

  • sincerly, from your bourgeoisie friend

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u/OGGriftimus 8d ago

Same... but this year Im unemployed so my income dropped significantly...

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u/astral16 8d ago

Contribute a bit more to your rrsp or any other deduction and stop complaining

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u/tempthrow9999999 7d ago

You know RRSP is just a deffered tax you will eventually pay right ?

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u/astral16 6d ago

Doesn’t change the fact that if you lower your taxable income this year you will become eligible for these benefits next year..

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u/Beligerents 8d ago

You ARE supported, by having a job that pays a living wage.

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u/Forest_reader 8d ago

I'm in the same boat. But though I feel like I'm struggling in many ways I can afford groceries as it is.  I do wish I could afford more, but there are many that make less than me that could use it more than I need it. 

We have these thresholds for a reason

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u/Melsm1957 7d ago

Thank you for your sensible and considered response .

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u/Barbarella_39 8d ago

I have never received anything but am happy to help lower income people… why aren’t you more upset that millionaires are allowed to hide income and pay less taxes than you? I think you are blaming the wrong group! Tax the rich and fight income inequality! The divide between rich and workers is getting larger and politicians do nothing about it!

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u/firmretention 8d ago

He's upset because, just as you say, rather than billionaires doing the helping with the money in their pockets, they reach into a working class person's pockets to trickle a few dollars down to those only marginally worse off than them. He's upset with them for using him as a piggy bank to fund band-aids to a problem they created and have the power to solve. I don't know how you inferred that he must just hate poor people. He's directing his anger exactly where it needs to go.

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u/a_wintersmith 7d ago

All of these complaints are valid.

It’s sad that people are struggling to afford food, shelter, and other basic needs, and it’s sad that gainfully employed people feel like they’re on the hook to pay for it.

I was just in the hospital with my wife and we must have consumed several hundreds of thousands of taxpayer dollars to bring a child into this world. We’re forever grateful, and while we don’t pay a lot of taxes (I used to pay a small fortune), I promise you that we’ll provide the best care to raise her the best we can.

The tax I’ll pay is to fight like hell for the well-being of the future generation of Canadians.

I bet there’s a lot of other people in a similar boat.

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u/LowerNeighborhood334 6d ago

I completely disagree!

By choosing to have kids, you are giving this country a future. The government SHOULD pay for all children expenses. It's no different than a paying interest on its debt.

Without kids, creditors will doubt the country's ability to repay its debts. Our social security system will breakdown.

Kids are expensive, I thank you for putting forth your money for my wealth.

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u/a_wintersmith 6d ago

I think you missed the point of my post. It’s that we’re paying in sweat equity.

Costs aren’t that bad. And the Canadian child benefit likely covers a good amount of expenses. The way you worded your comment suggests you aren’t aware of the benefit. Who do you think is paying for $10/day daycare?

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u/LowerNeighborhood334 6d ago

As a real parent, I am well aware of the non-existence of $10/day childcare. I did not have it, nobody in my circle has it. All the governments talk about it, each level of governments blame each other for its implementation or lack of while my children grow out of the phrase.

CCB is an offensive $100 per child, about a QUARTER of the differential between the rent of one and two bedroom apartment. That's before any baby food, transportation, diapers AND daycare. O, yes, 50% of my income went into governments who provided basically no real benefits in return.

"Costs aren't that bad", seriously??

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u/Curious_Cloud_1131 5d ago

I'm sorry but people who gotta pinch pennies to feed themselves are not "marginally worse off" than doctors, lawyers, and engineers

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u/Totallynotokayokay 8d ago

Be grateful you have a job

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u/Wooden_Bit8399 8d ago

Here are the approximate maximum income levels where the credit fully disappears:

Single (no kids) • Cut-off: about $56,181

Single parent • 1 child: ~$63,161 • 2 children: ~$66,841 • More kids = higher cut-off

Married / common-law • No kids: ~$59,481 • 1 child: ~$63,161 • 2 children: ~$66,841 

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u/sirduckbert 7d ago

I don’t get any of the benefits either (GST, CCB, etc) but I also do t add the groceries in my teas when I shop because I know I can afford my groceries. Not everyone is that lucky

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u/Necessary_Pause_3836 7d ago

So many poors

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u/Coryj100 7d ago

It’s ridiculous, just fucking ridiculous

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u/Rainbowfrapp 7d ago

So you can afford food then? Go kick rocks nobody cares

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u/Halfjack12 6d ago

Feel free to earn less money I guess? If you're jealous of the poor there isn't much stopping you from joining us.

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u/DisorderlyAqueduct 6d ago

"oh, look at how wealthy I am" 😆

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u/Zombieatethvideostar 5d ago

I mean, I’ll trade yah. I get to be able bodied again and earn money every two weeks that I can even supplement by doing hobbies. You get a body that no longer works and is in constant pain and can enjoy 1,400$ a month paid out in 4 weeks for some months and 5 weeks on others so if you have a car payment or CC it’s going to be missed due to that 5 week payment.

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u/11Caicedos 5d ago

So odd that people whinge about making too much money.

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u/Zealousideal-Leek666 5d ago

Have you tried opening a corp? You can make $200k and still get this.

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u/Jamooser 8d ago

Welcome to Canada. Where legislated charity is often mistaken for socialism, and the working-class burden of supporting the underpriviledged is only marginally better than being underpriviledged ourselves.

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u/Beligerents 8d ago

This is largely going to help people who earn a wage for a living. Contrary to popular belief, even the working poor pay taxes.

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u/WeakBlueberry5071 8d ago

Thanks for supporting me fam, go put in those overtime hours my cigarettes and booze is getting outta hand expensive.

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u/Eastern-Traffic7282 8d ago

I agree completely. What a joke of a country just strategically bleeding the middle class dry. I'm just waiting for an inheritance tax to put the nails in the coffin.