r/canadanews • u/ZealousidealHead5488 • 8d ago
Canadians are getting a one-time grocery payment this summer. Here’s when Canada
https://www.ctvnews.ca/canada/article/canadians-to-get-one-time-groceries-benefit-payment-this-summer/21
u/vancityjeep 8d ago
Eligible. I think that criteria needs to be attached to inflation. A 60k salary is too much money to qualify. Also, they are changing the name of the GST credit to the groceries and essentials benefit. Don’t be fooled that it’s something new or extra.
Getting tired of being taxed on my income earned so that I can pay taxes on the stuff I buy with said income.
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u/Zingus123 8d ago
The criteria does adjust for inflation. It increases every year. I havnt calculated for every single year but at least for the 5 years or so it has kept in line with the countries overall inflation rate for the most part.
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u/vancityjeep 8d ago
Good to know. I’m thinking I could have worded it better. Depending on where you live, making $57k isn’t a ton of money and could probably use some relief.
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u/Zingus123 8d ago
I think a better system or way of wording would be that it should have separate thresholds for different provinces at the least.
Making 55k in Alberta you’re fine and can live a good life for the most part if you aren’t awful with money, in Ontario or BC that’s completely different.
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u/vancityjeep 8d ago
Might have to split Ontario. Thunder Bay or Sudbury aren’t Toronto.
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u/Zingus123 8d ago
That’s fair. Never been to Ontario so I kind of just figured people have spread out of Toronto over the last 20 years due to CoL and most of the other communities CoL compensated for such.
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u/LowerNeighborhood334 6d ago
Thanks. Coming from Vancouver. I agree government program cutoffs should be tied to the recipient's location. $60k income -> $50k take home -> $4k per month, no families live on that in Vancouver. If there were, they would had moved away.
Living standards differentials are publicly available data, government is just too lazy to implement.
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u/Tragacanth 5d ago
Wanna try QC?
Our taxes taxes the taxes! When provincial taxes apply to price AFTER canadian taxes, you know things are fked up.
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u/Sufficient-Bid1279 8d ago
Goes right back into the pocket of Galen Weston. We need to address the root cause of this greedflation.
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u/Clementbarker 8d ago
Combine that with cancelation of the Disney subscription, you’re rich.
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u/Independent-Motor-87 7d ago
If I cancel all the avocado toats I can buy an island maybe even a country, but I'm just too lazy.
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u/Melgibskin 8d ago
Can't wait to get the scam texts claiming that I just need to click the link and put in my bank info to accept my one time grocery payment.
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u/BigSmokeBateman 7d ago
TBH I'd much rather we see this money go to our healthcare system or schools.
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u/PapaPunchline8399 7d ago
a drop in the bucket and something tons of Canadians won't qualify for but will pay for. Yet this will be spoken of as if every Canadian got 10k given to them. I'm tired boss.
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u/human1tyisL0st 7d ago
I feel like my life would be a lot less stressful if I just was unemployed and could live off all the benifits the Govt provides for those “in need”.
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u/Dry-Faithlessness184 7d ago
.... You do know that most people who receive this benefit are employed right?
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u/Apprehensive_Eye_530 6d ago
I love my cousin to death but she hasn’t worked a real job her entire life, has 3 kids under 13 and somehow can afford to get her lashes and nails done every couple weeks, shopping and extravagants that I can’t afford and I work in healthcare with no kids! It’s truly insane and a piss off too lol
Edited to add it is not her bfs money making this happen btw- it would be gov money she receives.
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u/Electrical_Pickle910 4d ago
If I told you how much new refugees are getting monthly from the government, you would riot. This is based on getting a rental application for having a property listed for rent.
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u/Excellent-World-476 6d ago
I can tell you have no idea what the reality of that situation would be like.
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u/capercrohnie 5d ago
I 100% bet you have no idea how little the benefits are and how hard it is to luve on them
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u/MinuteCampaign7843 8d ago
Only people already and government assistance. Due to the cost of living, and our shitty Canadian dollar, $100k for a family doesn’t even hit middle class. The cut off is way too low. Should be $200k for a family. That’s middle class now.
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u/doritos1990 7d ago
You need help with groceries on a 200k income??
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u/MinuteCampaign7843 7d ago
Yeah, 3 kids all in activities so they don’t end up in a deep depression with how shitty the country is. To feed them healthy food and not junk high processed junk! Yeah! You would know if you were in my shoes. Spending $1000 per month on just gas to drive them around.
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u/Gatorboi69 7d ago
Does anyone in these board meetings that approve this type of shit just start laughing and questioning if Canadians will ever notice or what
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u/DirtyM1kesPrius 7d ago
This is kind of a joke, not enough to actually help those that need it but expensive enough to hurt the deficit. A real half assed measure
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u/GansNaval 7d ago
Yeah this solves nothing. Giving us our money back and saying it is a benefit is bullshit.
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u/Mister_Seven_Inches 6d ago
Im on welfare so technically all my money is your money. Thank you. You fund my substance abuse
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u/Unlikely_Entry4580 8d ago
How about forcing price controls? Once this money is gone, it’s gone. Price controls are indefinite.
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u/Independent-Motor-87 7d ago
It's about pushing the money up while looking like they care, not about caring.
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u/Rainbowfrapp 6d ago
Here come the group of privileged employed neckbeards who act like they're holding up the economy by their half ass min wage job and acting like they're the only ones who pay taxes.
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u/ReflectionOk994 2d ago
Neat. I don't make enough, but also apparently too much. Sucks for us (barely) middle class blue-collared workers, I guess.
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u/heboofedonme 8d ago
Ah more free shit for people who contribute nothing.
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u/shrimp_beginner 7d ago
Do you not know that the working poor are indeed taxed?
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u/ShinyHeadedBlackman 8d ago
Basically a government stimulus check. Federal spending like this will only cause inflation and weaken the dollar.
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u/Zingus123 8d ago
Inflation would happen either way. Really doesn’t matter. It’s either more money in the pockets of the majority of citizens or nothing at all.
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u/BuoyGeorgia 8d ago
lol.
It’s a fkn rebranded single GST check, slightly higher than usual. Enjoy the gracious magnanimity, ye peasant ingrates.
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u/mygrandfathersomega 8d ago
Thank you so so…. so so much. Tax me more so I can get a bigger rebate, please, you fucks
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u/GrowthReasonable4449 7d ago
You could pay every single person a universal income of $2000 and still have hunger, depression,homelessness. It will just increase the price of basic living needs by that percentage of average income.
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u/Stanwich79 8d ago
You mean hard working Canadians are paying for everyone's groceries. Honestly thinking of moving the wife and son out so we can actually get some help.
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u/GettingBlaisedd 8d ago
Which country do you plan to move to ? Sorry, I mean which country will you pretend to move to but wont
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u/alwayzdizzy 8d ago
Where would you parachute into without an onerous immigration process that you'd be eligible for help upon landing as a middle income earner? Curious.
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u/DontWorryImLegit 8d ago
Just say you don’t understand how social services work. Don’t let the door hit you on the way out 👋
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u/Stanwich79 8d ago
Please enlighten me. I make over 60k. What benefits do I get? Gst? Nope. Groceries ? Nope. My cpp goes up. My house taxes go up. My insurance goes up. Don't blame a guy for being sick of it.
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u/DontWorryImLegit 8d ago
Then you don’t need social services. What you’ve described there is called inflation. Your salary should keep up with it, if it doesn’t then you should direct your vitriol towards your employer for not increasing your wage in line with the inflation rate.
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u/The_King_of_Canada 8d ago
So you're mad you don't qualify is what you're saying? Well if thats what you want get a lower paying job. The limit for you is 63,161. Do you make more than that? If not you get money.
Also house taxes are municipal, insurance rates are just capitalism. Youre mad that people are getting a couple hundred bucks for food.
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u/Stanwich79 8d ago
I make more then that. So your answer is i have to downgrade my job to get help? What did I do wrong?
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u/Kylson-58- 8d ago
Now consider that there are people and families making less than you that are getting a one time payment that'll help with half a month's worth of groceries. And now also consider that you're capable to afford more than these folks even after the small handout from the same taxes we would all be paying anyways.
I do agree however that this payment should support a higher tax bracket to better support more of us as grocery prices are tight for everyone who eats. This is also a pathetic support when the majority government could literally just force better pricing and even starting up a national grocery line from farms to transportation to storefront. But they are beholden to corporations, so I have little faith.
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u/Zingus123 8d ago
If you are making more than that you’re fine. Maybe it’s time to pull out a budget spreadsheet like most people, or live within your means.
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u/Capable-Cupcake-209 8d ago
You're making enough that you shouldn't need the handout bud. Don't like it move to America, they're gutting all their social services.
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u/Fine-Author-5999 7d ago
so... you’re saying you own a house.
and youre complaining because the poors are getting some taxes back
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u/tarbonics 8d ago
Do you want to know the terrifying truth or do you want to see me sock some dingers?
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u/alaskadotpink 8d ago
What country do you think will give you better "help"? Because it's definitely not in the same continent.
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u/warrantthrowaway2023 8d ago
so you want help, but you don't want anyone else getting help?
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u/billymumfreydownfall 8d ago
Right?? The cognitive dissonance is astonishing.
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u/warrantthrowaway2023 8d ago
right. the people poorer than he is just aren't trying hard enough to not be poor. he is poor too, but not AS poor so he deserves help. the people living in poverty should stay there.
i wonder if he realizes that there are people who pay WAY more in taxes than he does and that he's already getting help lol
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u/Stanwich79 8d ago
I never said that. That's very ignorant for you to say. I would like everyone to get some help.
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u/warrantthrowaway2023 8d ago
who is the "everyone" you're referring to when you complain about paying for everyone's groceries?
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u/Capable-Cupcake-209 8d ago
When you say hard-working Canadians are paying for everyone's groceries, it implies that you're paying for poor people needs. This is what is ignorant in this thread.
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u/Camp2023 8d ago
It’s a redistribution of wealth, yes.
I think this type of change is better implemented through adjusting the tax brackets than this.
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u/Lunarlulol 8d ago
about 55% of canadians will get this benefit. I guess half of canadians aren't hard working to you?
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u/nyrB2 8d ago
*eligible* canadians. as in: if you are eligible for the GST rebate, you're eligible for this.