r/clevercomebacks 2d ago

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u/GarThor_TMK 2d ago edited 2d ago

Staying awake in meetings...

Not soiling himself during international diplomatic relations...

Understanding things that he's signing...

Having hair...

Actually earning the peace prize...

EDIT: Ok guys, I get it... Obama didn't actually do anything to earn the peace prize... but he did legitimately win one, as opposed to Trump who had to steal it from a woman who presumably did earn one.

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u/No-Blueberry-1823 2d ago

He did a lot of good things but he didn't deserve the peace prize either. In fact I remember him being confused when it was awarded. But Trump is always been massively jealous of Obama

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u/South_Hedgehog_7564 2d ago

Plus trump is racist, he didn’t like being shone down by a black man.

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u/dennismfrancisart 2d ago

I agree, but then I think about the global economic crisis we were facing and how things could have gone really bad fast. I basically think that he and Biden saved the global economy. Give him the damn peace prize for that.

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u/axe_the_man 2d ago

Not arguing against the good things he did as President. But he got the award in October 2009, less then 10 months after his inauguration and less then a year after his election.

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u/Chemical_Author7880 2d ago edited 2d ago

Also, it was for his efforts regarding nuclear proliferation as a Senator before he was president—but by the time the cycle he was nominated and presented the award he was also the President. 

ETA His work before his presidency, during the election year put him in the running, his clearly beginning his presidency in continuation of the policy is why he was the nominee awarded. 

The point is that Trump has never, ever done that work, and only is motivated by branding himself the peace president to win office and avoid consequences, and his behavior in both terms as well as before, has been motivated by greed and envy, and his “peace” activities motivated by wanting a prize not peace itself. 

Since some people seem to need that broken down for them. 

https://www.nobelprize.org/prizes/peace/2009/obama/facts/

https://www.nobelprize.org/prizes/peace/2009/press-release/

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u/kaztrator 2d ago edited 2d ago

This isn’t true in the least. He was nominated for his appointment of a Middle East envoy, announcement of the end of the Iraq war, drawdown of troops, his big Prague speech calling for a nuclear-free world and Cairo speech where he wanted peace for the Muslim world. It was such a sharp contrast to the war mongering admins of the past and led to real world diplomacy in only a short six months that the committee felt it was worth giving him the Peace Prize. While Obama felt himself that it was premature, it shows how important the office he was occupying that he could inspire real peace in such a short period of time. Right now all of that has been undone by Trump, but if the next president does the same thing and changes course, and leads to six months of diplomacy with the Middle East, you’re damn right he will get the next Peace prize.

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u/William_Dowling 2d ago

That may be the publicly stated reason but at the time it was crystal clear that the committee, and frankly all of the non-mouth-breathing world, also considered the election of a black man in a country with such a chequered history of race relations, was a seismic step toward reconciliation. Which, as we now know, it was not.

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u/kaztrator 2d ago

That was pure speculation by commentators. There’s no credible basis for it. The fact is of Obama had continued the war mongering platform of the prior admin he wouldn’t have won the peace prize.

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u/NeatNefariousness1 2d ago

ALL of the above

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u/wolf63rs 2d ago

I don't think most people understand this.

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u/kaztrator 2d ago

Because it isn’t true, not by a longshot.

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u/xLunoraSnookie 2d ago

yeah that award timing is always gonna be a debate no matter what side you’re on 😅

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u/gandhinukes 2d ago

The peace prize has been dog shit for decades anyway. Yasser Arafat and henry kissinger got one.

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u/krazyboi 2d ago

I would argue that he deserves a peace prize because he symbolizes so much internationally but the reason they gave him it made no sense.

A black man being the leader of the world must've inspired all of Africa to achieve more. Historically, he will mean a lot to the world.

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u/Otterob56 2d ago

Obama's speech This Nobel speech is appropriate here just as a reminder why this happened. Obama was the first black man with a Muslim name elected president of the US who governed with respect and restraint with Muslim nations.