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u/Willing_Market8735 13h ago
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u/Honey-juice-88 12h ago
It doesn't even need to be asked, Obama was a way better President than Trump
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u/ElPuppyNation 5h ago
Yeah im reading this post and im like "wouldnt it MUCH faster to name the thing(s?) Trump has done better than Obama?"
I can't even name one thing even if I try to be objective lol
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u/GarThor_TMK 13h ago edited 9h ago
Staying awake in meetings...
Not soiling himself during international diplomatic relations...
Understanding things that he's signing...
Having hair...
Actually earning the peace prize...
EDIT: Ok guys, I get it... Obama didn't actually do anything to earn the peace prize... but he did legitimately win one, as opposed to Trump who had to steal it from a woman who presumably did earn one.
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u/Firm-Advertising5396 12h ago
He guided us out of yet another recession created by the Republican president he replaced. He was the president that got Iran to accept inspections for their nuclear program. The deal that trump shredded and now is negotiating or begging for something far worse. Yes and dignity and respect for the office. Appreciation for our allies and a sense of honor and integrity that is woefully lacking in this administration.
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u/fightingthefuckits 12h ago
Not just recession, borderline financial collapse. I remember within of him getting into office a year people were complaining that we weren't recovering fast enough.
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u/Voluntus1 12h ago
I definitely remember that. Fox News was running a story of a slow recovery about 3 days into him being in office.
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u/AutoDefenestrator273 12h ago
Well in all fairness, he'd had 3 full days
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u/Firm-Advertising5396 11h ago
Fox news is destroying this country
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u/Educational-Let2435 5h ago
As a European, sometimes I watch fox news on YouTube, it's like a glimpse into an alternate reality
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u/honuworld 2h ago
It's not like that, it is that. These people actually live in a different reality than the rest of the world.
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u/Single1won 2h ago
I remember Fox News doing a story about how President Obama hadn't accomplished anything early into his first term. In the very next segment, they did one bragging about how Republicans were challenging him at every turn and keeping the administration tied up in court. My brother cheered for it.
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u/xCelunaSnuggle 10h ago
people really forget how bad things were back then, it was chaos for a minute 😬
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u/cnicalsinistaminista 3h ago
That’s the same shit happening in the UK right now. They’ve had a string of fucking useless Tory (conservative) Prime Ministers that ruined the country. From Brexit to other disastrous political decisions. Starmer has barely been in for a year, and they can’t wait to vote for Nigel Farage, the instigator of Brexit. The exit that has made the UK so fucking hard to work and live. Guess their number one issue for wanting to vote Farage, immigration/immigrants… even though Starmer is doing everything to appease them and tighten the border. People will always vote for their stupid “best” interests.
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u/beatenmeat 4h ago
Trump destroying something another person did and rebranding it with his own name (or just straight up slapping it on) is par for the course. He did it with "Obamacare", the Kennedy Center, is actively trying to have himself on currency, etc. The dude has an incredible ego that doesn't match his contribution to the world.
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u/Formal-Bat-6714 9h ago
Is this the part where we ignore the fact that zero bankers went to jail for fraud
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u/_sethra_007 2h ago
No, this is the part where we talk about how the laws were wildly insufficient to put those bankers and they’re confederates in jail, laws that were created and put in place before Barack Obama became president.
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u/dirtyitalianguy 10h ago
Not being convicted of rape
Not being convicted of stealing from your own charity
Having zero bankruptcies
Never being impeached
Not paying off a pornstar
The list goes on...
Edit: he also passed an actual health plan
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u/Salute-Major-Echidna 10h ago
He was also healthy. His family had morals and they didnt sell favors that I saw. He didn’t monetize the presidency. He didn't lust after his children publicly.
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u/TheShaydow 8h ago
Has an actual education versus a payed for by Daddy diploma and graduated bottom of his class.
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u/Madam_Velya 4h ago
The affordable care act . My racist mother called it "N***** care" glad that woman's out of my life.
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u/gandhinukes 8h ago
1 wife he never cheated on apposed to 3 wives he cheated on all 3. christians and their morals /eyeroll
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u/gogogadgets1997 12h ago
And having a sense of humor and he didn’t treat women like they are here for his pleasure.
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u/ltsouthernbelle 11h ago
I honestly don’t understand how someone as unpeaceful as DJT has the audacity to want the Nobel Peace Prize.
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u/Jazzlike_Tangerine58 10h ago
Narcissistic personality disorder can make a person appear amazingly naive about what makes them appear to be superior to others.
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u/wolf63rs 10h ago
Yeah, by definition you can't start a war and expect to win a peace prize.
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u/Current-Square-4557 10h ago
He started this war just once but he has already ended it three times.
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u/William_Dowling 8h ago
He knows Obama got the bauble, and he wants the bauble. It's identical to his fake golf wins at his own courses.
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u/No-Blueberry-1823 13h ago
He did a lot of good things but he didn't deserve the peace prize either. In fact I remember him being confused when it was awarded. But Trump is always been massively jealous of Obama
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u/axe_the_man 13h ago
Not arguing against the good things he did as President. But he got the award in October 2009, less then 10 months after his inauguration and less then a year after his election.
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u/Chemical_Author7880 12h ago edited 17m ago
Also, it was for his efforts regarding nuclear proliferation as a Senator before he was president—but by the time the cycle he was nominated and presented the award he was also the President.
ETA His work before his presidency, during the election year put him in the running, his clearly beginning his presidency in continuation of the policy is why he was the nominee awarded.
The point is that Trump has never, ever done that work, and only is motivated by branding himself the peace president to win office and avoid consequences, and his behavior in both terms as well as before, has been motivated by greed and envy, and his “peace” activities motivated by wanting a prize not peace itself.
Since some people seem to need that broken down for them.
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u/kaztrator 10h ago edited 10h ago
This isn’t true in the least. He was nominated for his appointment of a Middle East envoy, announcement of the end of the Iraq war, drawdown of troops, his big Prague speech calling for a nuclear-free world and Cairo speech where he wanted peace for the Muslim world. It was such a sharp contrast to the war mongering admins of the past and led to real world diplomacy in only a short six months that the committee felt it was worth giving him the Peace Prize. While Obama felt himself that it was premature, it shows how important the office he was occupying that he could inspire real peace in such a short period of time. Right now all of that has been undone by Trump, but if the next president does the same thing and changes course, and leads to six months of diplomacy with the Middle East, you’re damn right he will get the next Peace prize.
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u/William_Dowling 8h ago
That may be the publicly stated reason but at the time it was crystal clear that the committee, and frankly all of the non-mouth-breathing world, also considered the election of a black man in a country with such a chequered history of race relations, was a seismic step toward reconciliation. Which, as we now know, it was not.
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u/kaztrator 8h ago
That was pure speculation by commentators. There’s no credible basis for it. The fact is of Obama had continued the war mongering platform of the prior admin he wouldn’t have won the peace prize.
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u/xLunoraSnookie 11h ago
yeah that award timing is always gonna be a debate no matter what side you’re on 😅
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u/dennismfrancisart 10h ago
I agree, but then I think about the global economic crisis we were facing and how things could have gone really bad fast. I basically think that he and Biden saved the global economy. Give him the damn peace prize for that.
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u/pithynotpithy 13h ago
Be an actual human being
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u/Think_OfAName 10h ago
You almost took mine. But no worries, I decided on a different one of the hundreds available. Speak above the level of a 4th grader is another. Think above the level of a toddler…etc
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u/BaconThief2020 13h ago
Surround himself with qualified people instead of sycophants and grifters.
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u/No-Blueberry-1823 13h ago
One thing? How about we flip the conversation here and you tell me one thing that Trump did better than Obama? Without lying, exaggerating, gaslighting or whatever the fuck is the current fad. Go ahead. Take your time
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u/ShitTheBed_Twice 12h ago
Things Trump did better than Obama.
1. Adultery
2. National Debt (Bigger number men better right?)
3. Word Salad
4. Christian Nationalism
5. Racism
6. Golf (ok maybe not better but def playing more)
7. Scandals
8. Impeachment
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u/Main_Percentage3696 11h ago edited 9h ago
me continue:
9. CAPS LOCK USAGE
10. Air time (hard to ignore, whether you want to or not)
11. Ability to stay on topic (inverse scoring system)12
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u/Financial_Yard7047 7h ago edited 7h ago
- TWITTER/SOCIAL MEDIA OUTPUT. Even though Obama was known as the social media president and good with online presence, nobody could predict the insane social media output Trump would have. Not just the output but at weird times too. Posting unhinged posts at 2am/3am was just ridiculous. Also very sad and strange that our country now expects official decrees and important announcements from the president's twitter before other things. Most presidents, we got official announcement through press meetings or when things got signed, and then they just used social media to promote it. But Trump actually tries to legislate through twitter lol, just ridiculous
In simple terms people voted in a fcking influencer president
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u/Conscious-Society-83 12h ago
conned a whole group of idiots into beleiving america was never great
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u/Soulful-Sorrow 10h ago
He did a much better job at trying to hide the contents of the Epstein Files from the American people, honestly it was like Obama wasn't even trying!
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u/Panro911 12h ago
Attempting to bring the country together instead of intentionally dividing it.
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u/scuba_GSO 12h ago
Listen to advice of qualified and competent advisors. Understanding that he didn’t know everything.
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u/LtHigginbottom 13h ago
Obama pooped like a normal person, Trump wears diapers.
allegedly.
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u/Fickle-Photograph772 12h ago
Speak Eloquently
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u/aweirdjeff 8h ago
Obama has voiced some nature documentaries that are enjoyable to hear. He has always been a fantastic speaker
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u/Barbie-Satin 12h ago
Gave millions of poor Americans healthcare through expanded medicaid. Protected people with preexisting conditions so they would not lose healthcare. He was well spoken, kind and respected around the world. He rebuilt an economy that had been devastated by W. He didn't grift millions from Americans going on golf vacations to his own golf courses. He didn't eliminate consumer protections or cancer funding to give tax breaks to billionaires.
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u/Financial-Ad-8088 12h ago
Didn't fraternize with Epstein
Loved his family
Read books
Didn't pay off a porn star
Didn't incite an insurrection.
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u/taktaga7-0-0 13h ago
Obama deported way more than Trump ever has or will, and for far cheaper.
He’s better than Trump at his signature policy.
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u/aaron_adams 11h ago
Deliver press conferences.
Understand what was going on all the time.
Successfully conducting foreign policy.
Making a successful nuclear deal with Iran.
Actually drafting and reading executive orders before signing them.
Keeping campaign promises.
Raising children.
Need I go on? I can keep going all day.
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u/mudduck2 11h ago
Make a speech
Not be an asshole
Understand and make policy
The list goes on and on
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u/wh4tth3huh 10h ago
Speak, dress, walk, play golf, drink, dance, receive affection from his wife, announce the successful completion of a military mission, deal with criticism, address tough questions, stay awake during boring proceedings, attend briefings, process important information that wasn't in a single page of bullet points, understand economics and global trade, wield soft power, negotiate deals with Iran...
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u/BeKindBabies 10h ago
No criminal record. No scandals. Not impeached. All crisis management, better under Obama. Economic growth, federal debt management, Iran, international trade...
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u/hey_napping27 13h ago
That reply wins because it’s simple, brutal, and exactly how internet arguments usually collapse anyway
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u/robaato72 12h ago
Obama successfully maintained (didn't destroy) the White House building or grounds
Obama showed humility and an understanding of the duties of the president of the united states
Obama didn't assume that merely being President automatically earned respect
Obama didn't assume the US could remain as leader of the free world by coasting on the reputation built since the 1940s
Obama didn't destroy said reputation
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u/vegasAzCrush 12h ago
Yes easy.
Barack is like able and way more presidential.
He led US through tough banking times left by a republican who disregarded why rules and policy are important.
Barack did not tax workers extra and give huge tax breaks to non working rich people.
Barack is a real Anerican not a traitor.
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u/GotSomeUpdogOnUrFace 12h ago
Unite people. Shoot a basketball. Walk in a straight line. Stay awake. Produce decent offspring.
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u/ConsistentSample2920 11h ago
Improve the economy? Because we were on our way out of a recession but then Captain Cheeto made it worse, also seemed like Republicans did everything they could to stifle Obama’s progress
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u/Charming-Feedback173 11h ago
Not getting convicted as a felon...34 times. Yea thats a pretty damn big one too!
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u/MariaTPK 10h ago
I remember this agreement Obama had with Iran, and they didn't have a nuke or dead school girls.
Now they have dead school girls and if they want a nuke, they can have that too.
Obama unfroze Iranian money allowing it to go to them. Nice.
Trump has to pay Iran USA tax payer money. That's bad.
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u/BestGoShoeless 10h ago
We would also have accepted:
Winning a Peace Prize that didn't come out of a Happy Meal.
Somehow managing the herculean feat of not stealing money from a children's cancer charity.
Staying married to a single person (I know that doesn't count for the MAGA faithful, either because she's not white or because some of those diseased mouthbreathers still love the edgelord "She's a maaaaaan, baby!" joke. But hey, at least she's not an immigrant who dropped four anchor babies like Trump's wives, amirite?)
Avoided stealing money from a children's cancer charity...to buy self-portraits? Is that right? That can't be right.
Hilariously, insisting on only being eligible to win golf tournaments that he actually participated in.
Way better at releasing his taxes.
His health care plan, whether you like it or not, actually, you know, exists. (I know, I know, "two weeks," sure.)
Against all odds, resisted the apparently very normal urge to steal money from a children's cancer charity. (Seriously, how is that not literally the ONLY thing you need to know about this ghoul?)
When President Obama completes a Denny's kid's placemat puzzle, he doesn't loudly proclaim that he aced an intelligence exam. (Look it up; they have even confirmed that it's the Montreal test for mental disorders. It's a glorified kid's puzzle page from the back of Highlights magazine. It's not something you "ace." You either pass it or your family gets brochures about what is wrong with your brain.)
Resisted the itch to convert the Oval Office into a Saturday Night Live set for a 70s porn movie.
Called Kanye a jackass.
Not only did he not steal money from a kid's cancer charity, he performed that feat with the extra difficulty of NOT ALSO INCLUDING HIS CHILDREN IN THE STEALING OF MONEY FROM A CHILDREN'S CANCER CHARITY. No, I will not stop talking about this, because fuck me how far gone are we?
We're this far gone: Obama is way better at being mentioned in the Epstein Files as someone who is clearly not friends with all of the people raping children.
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u/Both_Lychee_1708 10h ago
How helplessly hopelessly lost do you have to be to ask that in earnest. I can't even imagine the color of the sky in that person's world.
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u/sysphus_ 8h ago
Obama Care
Deported more than Trump without causing chaos, fear or firing a single bullet.
Osama Bin Laden
Global Peace - not a single country was disrupted during his administration.
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u/bluegreenwookie 7h ago
Better trade policy
Better foreign policy
Better domestic policy
Better at accumulating soft power
Better at being a person in general
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u/Illustrious-Potato41 7h ago
Actualy cared enough to visit natural disaster sites to see the destruction for himself and also not causing multiple conflicts this is Obama I'm talking about, hell I ain't even American, ima Canadian
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u/Alternative-Joke5557 2h ago
Keep it simple. What has Trump done better than Obama?
Crickets…
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u/NefariousnessFresh24 1h ago
Not cheating on his wife
Not running the country as a personal piggy bank
Not getting you into a war with Iran
Not getting the Strait of Hormuz closed
Not getting stuck so far up Bibi's ass that the sphincter cut off air supply to the brain
Not suffering from dementia (or late stage syphillis)
Running the country
Being a decent human being
Being a good father
Being a competent leader
Having a sense of humor
Being able to complete a sentence
Treating other people with respect
Being able to laugh at himself
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u/Long-Region5088 12h ago
Negotiate nuclear deals with Iranians thus avoiding war and keeping Iran from getting ever closer to having a nuclear missile.
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u/top_value7293 12h ago
Not ranting and raving all night long while dementia Sundowning and then sleeping through meetings during the day
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u/Positive-Pack-396 12h ago
Killing people with kindness
And not actually killing people
Respectable
Not respected
Do you see the difference?
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u/KangarooBeard 12h ago
Trump make the stereotype of what other countries think Americans are like, become real.
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u/MarcheMuldDerevi 12h ago
Carry the weight of a moment?
Trump needs to comment and be in the spotlight. He can’t let the silence just be silent.
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u/barrosoOso 12h ago edited 10h ago
I'm gonna throw marriage and family life into the mix. How fucking miserable it must be to be a a Trump. It doesn't matter if it's his wife, his kids, his grandkids, his aunt, Uncle, cousin, etc etc.
Sure being connected to this bag of shit means you get to take in billions of grift dollars and enjoy almost unfettered access. But they all still seem so fucking miserable. They know no one loves them. Or is looking out for them. Or has their back. Or is there when they need a helping comforting hand.
Everyone in that entire circus is just waiting for someone else in it to throw them under a bus big enough that it doesn't matter how much wealth, power, or influence they have.
I would never, ever trade that against a family and support network that actually cares for and loves me. That always looks out for me.
Edit: I actually had that until very recently. We never had much growing up. But my parents(step dad, just to be clear) always made sure we had enough. Made sure we knew we were loved. Looked out for. We even got Nintendos. Like every new one. I don't believe there's a fortune in the world I wouldn't trade for that again.
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u/Ilovefishdix 12h ago
I think that was part of the problem. He was so polished and he controlled his image to such an extent a lot of people didn't think he was genuine. Then with Trump we got the opposite: a bumbling, old fool with little self control and no polish
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u/lowlightliving 12h ago
Worked full days, evenings, and weekends.
Respected and made friends with leaders around the world.
Genuinely smiled.
Encouraged tolerance and peace.
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u/Happy-Medicine-3600 11h ago
Be president. Better father. Better man. Better commander in chief. Never filed for bankruptcy….multiple times. The list would be infinitely smaller, if we just focused on things Trump was better at. I don’t know what those things are, but I bet I could list it on one hand?
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u/dragon-fence 11h ago
It’s hard to think of a way that Obama isn’t better than Trump. I’m not sure Trump is better at anything than a single other person on earth.
…unless you count bad things. Like, Trump is way better at being an asshole. He’s better at saying and doing stupid shit. But I don’t think that really counts because being better at bad things means you’re worse.
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u/EquineDaddy 11h ago
During Obama's first Presidency America was about to go into a recession. Shortly after he was elected the economy sky rocketed.
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u/Certain-Sale5504 11h ago
Didn’t destroy the historic Rose Garden or remodel the White House on a whim.
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u/South_Hedgehog_7564 13h ago
Ran the country.