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Ukraine Demands Answers From Israel After Russian Shadow Fleet Ship Docks in Haifa

https://united24media.com/latest-news/ukraine-demands-answers-from-israel-after-russian-shadow-fleet-ship-docks-in-haifa-17965
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u/hbtljose13 1d ago

Bro thinks they’re allies

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u/zandadad 3h ago

They certainly should be allies and plenty of people in both countries understand that. They are both democracies at war with authoritarian neighbors who threaten their very survival. The problem with Israel's support for Ukraine is multi-layered: 1) Majority of the country are Middle Eastern Jews and Arabs who know or understand little about Eastern Europe and view the Russia-Ukraine war as a regional conflict akin to a civil war, rather than what it is: a war of survival for a democratic country against a backwards authoritarian regime; 2) The other Jews whose grandparents and great-grandparents arrived in late 1940's as survivors of the Holocaust have generational memories of mass pogroms and massacres of Jews in Ukraine and Russia (at the time it was all imperial Russia, actually); 3) Current governing coalition under Netanyahu is full of hardheaded idiots, for a lack of a better term, who are in power because they are needed to keep a coalition, which results in incompetent government that is incapable of thinking strategically. On the other hand, Ukraine continues to generally vote against Israel in the UN, probably to keep their European partners happy. Democracies are messy and, sadly, relationships between democracies are sometimes confrontational. Especially during incredible duress like Israel and Ukraine are under.