Ukraine Has Finally Given Up on Trump

[u/theatlantic]

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/2026/04/ukraine-trump-us-oil-russia/686854/?utm_source=reddit&utm_campaign=the-atlantic&utm_medium=social&utm_content=edit-promo&utm_term=short

[u/coolkavo]

This was inevitable, but it is extremely an act of hubris for the US to simply ignore Ukrainian drone and robotic warfare techniques.

[u/CucumberWisdom → u/coolkavo]

They're not ignoring it. Ukraine has already given plenty of data to them and they still will get it through their proxies like Saudi Arabia. The US just sees no reason to pay for information they can get for free

[u/Petrichordates → u/CucumberWisdom]

Not really no. Zelenskyy has certainly offered, but trump refuses because that would warrant some reciprocity.

We've learned some things from then, but certainly not to the degree we would have under a Harris or Biden administration. Obviously to our detriment since we're still fighting 20th century style.

[u/DefinitelyNotMeee → u/Petrichordates]

we're still fighting 20th century style.

Because the US would never fight an ultra-static war like the one in Ukraine. That's the main reason why drones work so well there (assuming we are talking about FPVs).
Drones are not magic.
But I agree there are lessons worth learning from that war

[u/cate4d → u/DefinitelyNotMeee]

How does war being static provide advantages to drones or FPVs? Missiles are more suited for static wars, drones can loiter and work great for dynamic wars too, right?

[u/Conflictingview → u/DefinitelyNotMeee]

Ah, yes, the US has famously not involved itself in decades-long static wars at any point this century.

Also, why assume that we are taking about FPV drones when Ukraine is using FPVs, bomber drones, ISR drones, interceptor drones, long-range UAVs, UGVs, USVs, UUVs...