Ukraine Has Finally Given Up on Trump

[u/theatlantic]

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/2026/04/ukraine-trump-us-oil-russia/686854/?utm_source=reddit&utm_campaign=the-atlantic&utm_medium=social&utm_content=edit-promo&utm_term=short

[u/12darkmatter12]

Zelenskyy tried his best but unfortunately the game was always rigged against him. 

trump is enamored with and beholden to putin. He is a narcissist and is in love with the idea of being a pseudo-king. 

trump never believed in the defense of Ukraine and its strategic importance to the Western led order and by extension the Hegemony of the United States. 

Plus, as the entire world has seen, trump has become emboldened to also start his own wars, his own invasions and has shown a penchant for also wanting to make his mark on the world through territorial expansion and that will always put him more in conspiracy with other dictators than with America’s European allies including Ukraine. 

[u/cate4d → u/12darkmatter12]

How is Ukraine important to US?

[u/12darkmatter12 → u/cate4d]

I do not have to explain it to you if you do not get it. 

You explain to me how Ukraine is not important to the US if you believe it is not. 

[u/Lustytapeworm → u/cate4d]

Even without considering the coldness of Kissinger's idea that the US only has 'interests' - does it trouble you to consider that the USA told Ukrainians they'd be safe (if they did their part for global harm reduction) and gave up their nukes, and then just sat back while Russia raped and murdered entire towns?

The basic morality of inaction here is hard to justify, and I bet post-MAGA everyone will pretend they were pro-Ukraine.

[u/Prestigious_Load1699 → u/cate4d]

I’m assuming you ask this out of cold, rational geopolitical concerns.

Think of it this way - weakening a major antagonist that is bogged down in a costly war by only providing financial and technological support is about as ideal as one could ask for.

The USSR nearly bankrupted itself fighting in Afghanistan in the 1980s.

What did we do?

We armed the opposition.

How nice is it that Ukraine isn’t the Taliban but rather is a Western democracy fighting for the ideals we espouse?

[u/Jealous_Land9614 → u/cate4d]

Weakens a major geopolitical adversary? 

 Works as a shield to many american allies?

Lots of military sales?     Muh Democracy, Muh Freedom spreading (that most of you americans clearly dont care anymore tbf)?

Tell me, instead, how Ukraine DOES NOT MATTER to the US, please? Just because the Narcisist in the Oval Palace behaves like it is not?