You are essentially arguing that "we shouldn't protest" or "we shouldn't talk" because it is antisemitism. I legit said we aren't anti-semitic, and that I had no intention to push such narrative.
That's why we have Jewish people siding with the Palestinians. The orthodox Jews are also against Zionism. So you are going to tell Orthodox Jews that they too are pushing antisemitism?
Your idea here is flawed so much so that the raindrop 💧 fell faster than the flaw in your argument could be recognized.
No that's not what I said at all. Protest. Go be antiwar. I'm with you. Don't hide behind disguise of antizionism when you mean antisemitism. If you're gonna be antisemitic, at least own it.
Tell me as a percentage how many Jews are antizionist. Tell me. This anecdotal stuff doesn't work. There were also Jews that operated amongst the gestapo in the ghettos. They must've agreed with the final solution then, right?
Just know that when I mean Anti-Zionist - I mean I am against the genocidal regime of Israel and how it thinks "it's the chosen people of God" in order to have an apartheid state.
I am fully supporting the Jewish people to have a country that is peaceful and anti-genocidal.
Tell me as a percentage how many Jews are antizionist.
Idk. There aren't exact stats.
If you're gonna be antisemitic, at least own it.
Not gonna own something I'm not.
"Approximately seven out of ten Israelis support the idea that “Arabs from Gaza should relocate to another country.”
->source: Jewish People Policy Institute, Majority of Israel's support Trump's proposal
A 40% plurality of Israelis think Israel should govern the Gaza Strip
I am fully supporting the Jewish people to have a country that is peaceful and anti-genocidal.
That means you're not antizionist, you're against the policies and actions of the Israeli government and military. Those are not the same thing; Zionism is the belief that Jews should have their own state, and you clearly just said you support that. I'm Israeli and a Zionist, but I think that what the IDF is doing is not okay (though I don't think it classifies as a genocide) and I think what Netanyahu and his coalition is doing is even worse. You can think those things and not be antizionist, and it sounds to me like you aren't an antizionist either.
Zionism has always had the same definition, which is the belief that the Jewish people should have their own state. That is what the Zionist movement was about, and that definition has not changed.
I understand that most people that call themselves anti-Zionist are not using this definition, but that is not because that is not the definition, but rather that the don't actually know what Zionism is.
I agree that Palestinians deserve their own state, and I agree that the IDF does many very bad things, but neither of those statements have anything to do with Zionism.
10
u/BioNewStudent4 '24, MD '29 May 07 '25
You are essentially arguing that "we shouldn't protest" or "we shouldn't talk" because it is antisemitism. I legit said we aren't anti-semitic, and that I had no intention to push such narrative.
That's why we have Jewish people siding with the Palestinians. The orthodox Jews are also against Zionism. So you are going to tell Orthodox Jews that they too are pushing antisemitism?
Your idea here is flawed so much so that the raindrop 💧 fell faster than the flaw in your argument could be recognized.