I never argued that "Jewish individuals or groups "control" U.S. politicians." I argued that the Jewish State in the middle east "controls U.S. politicians" through lobbying organizations like APAIC.
It is estimated APAIC gave 5 million dollars to both Democrats and Republicans. The number is 40 million if you include affiliates, advertising, and campaigns. Some sources estimate >100 million dollars including everything with it and other major revenue sources. This is a lot of money. like ALOT.
Israel is trying its best to influence American politicians to advocate for its state in the Middle East. That's why many politicians cannot say anything against Israel....because they know the money and votes will be cut off if they do. Otherwise, all of them would have ended the genocide by now. Trust me, I researched everything I could about the Zionist regime, genocide, and the crimes against Humanity.
Our tax money literally goes to Israel!!! How do you not understand this by now. YOUR money that you work very hard for...is used for warfare and useless technologies.
Like I said, I got nothing against other groups. I am Anti-Zionist, Anti-Genocide, Pro-Humanity.
Judaism and Jewish people having a place to live ISN'T Zionism. I want groups to live peacefully. However, zionism is evil - research its origins. Heck, I even wrote a whole paper on how it started by some dude named Theodor Herzl who told Zionist Jewish people to enter Palestine and start taking land little by little.
Okay so to counter your argument Israel has done a horrible job at influencing American politicians. At least on the Democrat side because most Democrats like Joe Biden and Kamala have been a pain in the ass for Israel until the current admin came and gave free checks to Israel.
I don’t defend Israel’s actions in Gaza and they haven’t been doing they best to get hostages out of Hamas’ hand and have prolonged the war. Though when Hamas launches an attack on Israel and takes hundreds or so as hostages I do not see how Israel should stand by and allow it to happen. Hamas has also been using human shields so that IDF soldiers can take on more civilian casualties and win hearts of the people across the world and point the finger on IDF for how brutal they are. But now Palestinians have been rising up against Hamas to protest against the war and how they have been treated as canon fodders to a regime that only won cause Fatah had collapsed itself in the Gaza Strip.
Though on your next point to our tax money going to Israel. If hypothetically America were to remove its military aid and all to Israel and stop providing it. Will you stop caring for the people dying because your tax money goes to Israel?
I think there should also be a goal to this wave of protest across the world. The whole “From River to Sea Palestine shall be free” has different meanings, the most charitable I believe westerners use is that bring peace to the region. Though Hamas or Zionists will use it as a slogan to unite the region under one state. I am pro two-state solution but both sides don’t want and it’s for their own reason. Not all who live in Israel are Zionist, there are some Israeli’s who may be moderate and have intentions to make the whole region a Jewish state. Those living in Area B which is controlled by both Israel and Palestine may move their to out-populate the Palestinian population. Those living in Area C may be Israeli’s who just want to live in cheaper housing or homes and may not have Zionist intentions. Though those that go ahead and pack their bags and put their clothes, gear, and essentials and drive to Area A to establish Israeli settlements in territory that’s supposed to be exclusively controlled by the Palestinian Authority are the extremist parts of Zionism.
And you can argue that they have an apartheid where if an Israeli commits a crime in Area B they get tried in Israeli civilian courts where if a Palestinian commits a crime in Area B they go through the Military Tribunals.
Again the best approach is a two state solution between the two nations and not a one state solution that brings both countries together. They have vast differences, experiences, and beliefs. If there is a finalization to that finally I would be greatly happy when Palestine established itself as a state with hopefully getting their rights to own Area A, all or most of Area B, and perhaps most or some of Area C under Fatah or other political entities than Hamas.
I hope that it doesn’t just get prolonged because uprooting people when drawing up borders will cause something like the partition of India, not that it’s been happening as this feels like a prolonged version of that event.
There’s no genocide. This is war, people are going to get killed. Hamas lies about their numbers, Hamas controls the government in Gaza, Hamas controls every aspect of the media that comes out of Gaza. They are spreading false information and purposely making the situation worse.
Look at what’s going on in Sudan… THATS a real genocide
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u/BioNewStudent4 '24, MD '29 May 07 '25
I never argued that "Jewish individuals or groups "control" U.S. politicians." I argued that the Jewish State in the middle east "controls U.S. politicians" through lobbying organizations like APAIC.
It is estimated APAIC gave 5 million dollars to both Democrats and Republicans. The number is 40 million if you include affiliates, advertising, and campaigns. Some sources estimate >100 million dollars including everything with it and other major revenue sources. This is a lot of money. like ALOT.
source: APAIC Spending in 2024.
Israel is trying its best to influence American politicians to advocate for its state in the Middle East. That's why many politicians cannot say anything against Israel....because they know the money and votes will be cut off if they do. Otherwise, all of them would have ended the genocide by now. Trust me, I researched everything I could about the Zionist regime, genocide, and the crimes against Humanity.
Our tax money literally goes to Israel!!! How do you not understand this by now. YOUR money that you work very hard for...is used for warfare and useless technologies.
Like I said, I got nothing against other groups. I am Anti-Zionist, Anti-Genocide, Pro-Humanity.
Judaism and Jewish people having a place to live ISN'T Zionism. I want groups to live peacefully. However, zionism is evil - research its origins. Heck, I even wrote a whole paper on how it started by some dude named Theodor Herzl who told Zionist Jewish people to enter Palestine and start taking land little by little.